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[cabianca]

There were 6 Talbots at Le Mans in 1938 numbered 3 through 8. 5 & 6 were T 150 SS coupes. The remainder were open cars with separate fenders. In Moity's Le Mans book, he identifies the #3 Etancelin/Chinetti car as a T 26 SS. Blight's The French Sports Car Revolution says it was a T 150 C. I think Blight is correct. I would enjoy hearing what the forum has to say.

Many thanks.

[Option1]

Not sure if this helps or not (you've probably already seen all the pictures out there on the web), but the photo on this page purports to be of the 1938 Le Mans and shows the #5 car, but more importantly, the #3 in the background.

 

There's also another, bigger picture of #3 here.  There may be more on the http://www.les24heur.../index.php/1938 site, but it's not responding for me at the moment.

 

Neil

[Tim Murray]

There are photos of the competing cars on this site:

 

http://www.lemans-hi...as.php?ano=1938

 

The #3 car is listed as a T 26 SS, and the #4 car as a T 150 C. I don't know exactly what the visual differences between the two models were, but these two look very similar to me:

 

http://www.lemans-history.com/imagens/1938/lm_938_003_00.jpg

 

http://www.lemans-history.com/imagens/1938/lm_938_004_00.jpg

 

[CiroMenotti]

Pierre Abeillon's masterly work on Talbot-Lago lists the cars as follows :-

3 - T26 90201 (ex T150C 82931) with 4.5l engine
4 - T150C 82935
7 - T150C 82933
8 - T150C 82932/90101
9 - T150C DNA

Whether PA has changed any of these conclusions over the 20+ years since his book was published I do not know.

[Vitesse2]

The look isn't necessarily indicative because, like the Delahaye 135s, a lot of Talbots were sold as bare chassis and then bodied to taste. The general consensus seems to be that it's a T26 chassis, c/n 90201 - although Martin Krejci follows Abeillon in saying it's a rebuilt T150 (originally c/n 82931). However, it seems to have been using an entirely non-standard engine of 4495cc in 1938 only - perhaps an interim development unit? Tony Lago had irons (well, smoke and mirrors anyway!) in several fires at that time, but the 1939 engine which eventually powered the MDs and the MC was 4483cc.

 

However, when 90201 ran at Le Mans in 1939 it was stated to be 4468cc! So, again non-standard, but this time smaller than the production units. Equally, I've seen 4464cc quoted for Talbot engines too, but I suppose 4cc is well within the margin of error for rounding of calculations.

 

Since Norbert Mahé's similar 82932/90101 retained its original 3957cc T150 engine - and Abeillon calls it a T150C - I'm not sure where that leaves us

 

So, is it a T150C with a T26 engine, a T26 - or something else entirely?

[Roger Clark]

What was the difference between a T150C and a T26?