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Who is McLaren's new "headline" tech signing?

  1. Ross Brawn (62 votes [38.51%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.51%

  2. Pat Fry (10 votes [6.21%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.21%

  3. Bob Bell (5 votes [3.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.11%

  4. Aldo Costa (5 votes [3.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.11%

  5. Geoff Willis (4 votes [2.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.48%

  6. Rob Marshall (4 votes [2.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.48%

  7. Peter Prodromou (56 votes [34.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.78%

  8. Other - list below (13 votes [8.07%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.07%

  9. Rob Smedley (1 votes [0.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.62%

  10. James Key (1 votes [0.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.62%

  11. Paul Monaghan (0 votes [0.00%])

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#101 GT Racing Online Magazine

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 10:54

McLaren have denied it.

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/110425

 

Usually means nothing - last example of stern denial while deal was done was Allison/Ferrari



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#102 Anonymous

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 10:54

McLaren have denied it.

 

That doesn't mean anything.



#103 purpleturtle

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 10:56

Adrian Newey.

 

Newey is not an option. What does Newey possibly have to gain by moving back to Macca? - he's been there done that.

 

He seems incredibly happy, well paid and treated like royalty at Red Bull - if he stays at Red Bull, he has the opportunity to break records.

 

Newey ain't gonna happen.


Edited by purpleturtle, 07 October 2013 - 13:08.


#104 Tonka

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 10:59

Some unknown bloke from Pixar.  McLaren have become a cartoon of a F1 team.



#105 purpleturtle

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 11:00

I have to say, it doesn't really make loads of sense for the Ross Brawn move. Whoever mentioned it earlier, is kinda, right - It is in a sense a demotion. Plus he is getting on 60, I'm sure they'd want someone with a few more years to go than that.

 

The only possibility I can see is if the board wanted Brawn to take over from Whitmarsh - unlikely. I'm sure they'll recruit that position (eventually) from within.

 

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The Pat Fry move now seems more likely to me after hearing Ted's notebook gossip. It sounds like he is being demoted with James Allison moving over. And, I'm sure he's missing his tea and scones across the channel. McLaren must miss him too, he's still under 50, and I recall it being a very harmonious departure, so no bad blood - At Fry's resignation Whitmarsh said: "Pat has made a great contribution to the team over a number of years. I think it is probably good for him and the right decision to take a bit of a break." - Grandprix.com

 

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#106 WitnessX

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 11:06

he literally just joined the extended Red Bull family, I don't see him moving yet. Maybe if Newey renews after 2015 he will start thinking about it, but for now, he has to see himself as the man to take over Newey's mantle when he retires

 

IMO Prodromou is the one that has plateaued at Red Bull and might be looking elsewhere. Although I think Ross Brawn via a backdoor Honda position is the more likely candidate

Why not both?

 

I can see Whitmarsh being overloaded with all the jobs he has to do. I can see Brawn take over the immediate racing duties and Whitmarsh moving over doing the rest of the stuff.

 

They have very strong directors in the engine/mechanical/car build side (Goss/Morris) but seem to be lacking an aero specialist overlooking that side.

 

Honda have already announced that  the McLaren Group will be working with them on the NSX project, so there may be ways of supporting McLaren next year through other ways without causing problems with Mercedes. Its in Honda's interest to build up the team before entry.

 

Or... Honda could be title sponsor next year!    Hmmm...   "Honda-McLaren-Mercedes" (Just kidding!... or am I?  ;) )



#107 KirilVarbanov

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 11:07

Some unknown bloke from Pixar.  McLaren have become a cartoon of a F1 team.


Awwww, why no love for Macca? It's just a bad time... IMHO, it's not Ross Brawn. And it will turn not to be such tech-line (mix of tech and headline).
Let's see.

#108 ATM_Andy

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 12:05

It's funny,since Sam started you guys have often slated him despite him having an enormously beneficial effect. So I wander what you'll do this time.



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Posted 07 October 2013 - 12:14

It's funny,since Sam started you guys have often slated him despite him having an enormously beneficial effect. So I wander what you'll do this time.

 

Probably firing squad at dawn if results aren't immediate!  :stoned:



#110 purpleturtle

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 12:21

It's funny,since Sam started you guys have often slated him despite him having an enormously beneficial effect. So I wander what you'll do this time.

 

The thing about Sam is Williams just seemed to go one way after he took over, his fault or not. In the fan's eyes, he's never been a winner. McLaren is about hiring winners.

 

Sam has never been known for doing anything amazing - he's never been considered an amazing aero guy, design guy. I don't know. Newey/Brawn folk are synonymous with genius, and I guess that's the calibre McLaren fans expect to join the organisation.

 

Since Sam has joined, the fan's are unaware of what's he's contributed besides a faster pitstop (and a slide down the pecking order). But that's not where championships are won I'm afraid.

 

When Sam interviews he sounds pretty casual and doesn't oooze intelligence like a Brawn/Newey does. There's just a sense one gets that he's not A team.

 

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And of course those on the inside will know way more - just letting you know the outside perception (from my view).

 

But what do you mean when you 'wander what we'll do this time'... is that saying there's the equivalent of a 'Sam Michael' joining? 


Edited by purpleturtle, 07 October 2013 - 12:59.


#111 Thunderpants

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 12:22

It's funny,since Sam started you guys have often slated him despite him having an enormously beneficial effect. So I wander what you'll do this time.

somebody not too popular?



#112 f1rules

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 12:37

It's funny,since Sam started you guys have often slated him despite him having an enormously beneficial effect. So I wander what you'll do this time.

 

 

Yes we know you guys love him, many fans dont. I'm sorry, but McLaren fans have the right to be disapointed, under Ron it was all about winning and perfectionism, now jezz, i dont know where to start. McLaren ****ed up in so many areas, and to me i doesnt look like Whitmarsh is the right guy to get you guys out of it. He is just to nice, and that doesnt win you anything. Maybe a Brawn would help. We need a blood sucking, mclaren bleeding, person with the biggest ego on the planet, and the intelligence to support it. Someone who sees and thinks only in Mclaren and their interest, and not in beeing gentlemen of the sport. 



#113 Force Ten

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 12:50

The thing about Sam is Williams just seemed to go one way after he took over, his fault or not. In the fan's eyes, he's never been a winner. McLaren is about hiring winners.

 

Sam has never been known for doing anything amazing - he's never been considered an amazing aero guy, design guy. I don't know. Newey/Brawn folk are synonymous with genius, and I guess that's the calibre McLaren fans expect to join the organisation.

 

Since Sam has joined, the fan's are unaware of what's he's contributed besides a faster pitstop. But that's not where championships are won I'm afraid.

 

For any serious organisations it's somewhat... ahem... moronic to hire people based on what fans are aware of reading press statements and whom they think of being genius.



#114 Force Ten

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 12:51

Yes we know you guys love him, many fans dont. I'm sorry, but McLaren fans have the right to be disapointed, under Ron it was all about winning and perfectionism

Yes, those 1994, 1995 and 1996 seasons were brilliant, indeed.



#115 f1rules

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 12:55

Yes, those 1994, 1995 and 1996 seasons were brilliant, indeed.

 

Thoose where not funny years either admitted :-)



#116 Force Ten

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 13:02

So what was the real reason of McLaren letting go of Paddy Lowe and allowing him to work immediately and not demanding him to fulfil the gardening leave requirement that was for sure written into whatever contract he had with the team? :)

Brawn AND Prodromu would be rather cool.



#117 Holdenboy

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 13:07

It's funny,since Sam started you guys have often slated him despite him having an enormously beneficial effect. So I wander what you'll do this time.

 

Please please, pretty please with ice cream and sugar and a cherry on top, for the life of me can you explain these enormously beneficial effect?????



#118 purpleturtle

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 13:31

So what was the real reason of McLaren letting go of Paddy Lowe and allowing him to work immediately and not demanding him to fulfil the gardening leave requirement that was for sure written into whatever contract he had with the team? :)

 

 

I assumed it had something to do with the Mercedes engine deal or something else financial. Ahh yep, here we are: http://www.jamesalle...y-lowe-release/

 

Brawn AND Prodromu would be rather cool.

 

 

Agreed!



#119 eronrules

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 13:32

people.. people ...

 

Ross Brawn might be a good TP and was a Aero guy at the beginning of his career, but he's not 'the top aero guy' in the business. it's some other guy (s) that mclaren are gunning for, and one possibility is Pat (pullrod)  Fry.  :p

 

it'll be fun to see those Mclaren fans reaction who thought Sam Michael was a bad idea for mclaren. 



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#120 BiH

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 13:43

so its Ross Brawn.

 

seeing as latest headline suggest he is leaving Mercedes.

 

will be big addition to McLaren.



#121 Lemans

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 14:42

For any serious organisations it's somewhat... ahem... moronic to hire people based on what fans are aware of reading press statements and whom they think of being genius.

:up:



#122 Lemans

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 14:48

So what was the real reason of McLaren letting go of Paddy Lowe and allowing him to work immediately and not demanding him to fulfil the gardening leave requirement that was for sure written into whatever contract he had with the team? :)

Brawn AND Prodromu would be rather cool.

 

Maybe McLaren were hoping that Paddy would work the same magic on next year's Mercedes as he did on this year's McLaren? :D

 

I very much hope it's Prodromou, Marshall and Brawn.


Edited by Lemans, 07 October 2013 - 14:58.


#123 Lazy

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 15:04

Please please, pretty please with ice cream and sugar and a cherry on top, for the life of me can you explain these enormously beneficial effect?????

He could try but I have a feeling it would be beyond you.



#124 Fastcake

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 15:07

It's funny,since Sam started you guys have often slated him despite him having an enormously beneficial effect. So I wander what you'll do this time.

 

You're meant to tell us who it is  ;)

 

Anyway, a few new tech signings to prepare for 2015 and Honda will be a happy prospect.



#125 pizzalover

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 16:09

I've been a fan of McLaren for many years. Any ex-Ferrari personnel and that's me done. The thought of seeing uber-cheat Brawn in a McLaren shirt is sickening. 



#126 Raven8

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 17:50

It's funny,since Sam started you guys have often slated him despite him having an enormously beneficial effect. So I wander what you'll do this time.

You've been very successfull since than.... oh wait, thrown away successfully one WDC 2012 , and than 0 poduims , 0 wins, 5th in WCC



#127 ElDictatore

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 19:44

You've been very successfull since than.... oh wait, thrown away successfully one WDC 2012 , and than 0 poduims , 0 wins, 5th in WCC

 

Yeah Sam Michael really ****ed up the development of the car. He also couldn't mount the wheel correctly at the pit stop. He didn't even refuel correctly. Oh wait......



#128 DanardiF1

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 19:47

Presumably any major signings are essentially useless for next year's car, as they'll join from gardening leave too late to do anything about the basic design of the car, so this must all be in aid of 2015 and the beginning of the new Honda era...



#129 AustinF1

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 22:00

The key ingredient to this is Honda.

 

In 2008 they had a stupidly enormous budget invested in 4 wind tunnel programmes and were throwing everything at signing Alonso as their lead driver. The following season that investment I believe was vindicated by the creation of the fastest car and both championships won. Id say that also vindicated Brawns approach of sacrificing a few seasons to build a platform for a superior car (similar to what hes about to do with Mercedes in 2014).

 

Honda and Japan love Jenson, so he will be staying put, at least for the next few seasons. 

  • Alonso to replace Perez.
  • Brawn to join Mclaren.
  • Jörg Zander to follow suit along with Loïc Bigois and Nicholas Tombazis.

That is the news. 

I believe this is it...but maybe Alonso goes over for 2015.


Edited by AustinF1, 07 October 2013 - 22:01.


#130 P123

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 22:21

Please please, pretty please with ice cream and sugar and a cherry on top, for the life of me can you explain these enormously beneficial effect?????

 

They're clearly hidden by the non-beneficial effects that others in the team have.  ;)



#131 Raven8

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 22:38

Yeah Sam Michael really ****ed up the development of the car. He also couldn't mount the wheel correctly at the pit stop. He didn't even refuel correctly. Oh wait......

With "You" I meant not only Sam Michael



#132 ch103

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 01:13

The corpse of Ayrton Senna.  Zombies invade McLaren come 2014!!!!



#133 Reinmuster

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:46

Some unknown bloke from Pixar.  McLaren have become a cartoon of a F1 team.

 

If Steve Jobs still alive he could be in for it!  :D



#134 Knot

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 09:08

Adrian Newey is not at the track this weekend, the first time ever I can remember him not going. Could be a coincidence but could also be the start of his 6 month gardening leave. 

 

Horner said several races ago that Newey would stop attending races when he feels the championships are in the bag so he can concentrate on the 2014 car.



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 16:07

Gordon Murray.



#136 alpinesmuggler

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 17:17

The headline grabbed my attention, and then I remembered that I only had a handful free articles I could read on Autosport.com.

 

That said, I simply cannot see who the **** would want to work for McLaren at this point.

 

Ferrari will pay you and give you that extra red prestige.

 

Mercedes will also pay you--possibly more than the Maranello folks--and you will be known as the man who brought the glory back to German racing.

 

And if you're any good, chances are you're already working at Red Bull and do not give a shit about joining a team with "history" or "tradition" (Williams anyone?), nor are you looking forward to taking a massive paycut as well as losing half the people and resources you need to do your job.

 

So, kind people, please do make a case for a top engineer to join a fading team like McLaren.


Edited by alpinesmuggler, 08 October 2013 - 17:20.


#137 Lemans

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 19:16

The headline grabbed my attention, and then I remembered that I only had a handful free articles I could read on Autosport.com.

 

That said, I simply cannot see who the **** would want to work for McLaren at this point.

 

Ferrari will pay you and give you that extra red prestige.

 

Mercedes will also pay you--possibly more than the Maranello folks--and you will be known as the man who brought the glory back to German racing.

 

And if you're any good, chances are you're already working at Red Bull and do not give a shit about joining a team with "history" or "tradition" (Williams anyone?), nor are you looking forward to taking a massive paycut as well as losing half the people and resources you need to do your job.

 

So, kind people, please do make a case for a top engineer to join a fading team like McLaren.

 

They have money. If they didn't, they wouldn't be trying to sign Alonso.

They will have even more money in 2015. The partnership with Honda will bring an enormous amount of financial backing. And they won't be paying for engines.

They have excellent facilities.

And yes, the McLaren name does carry a lot of prestige and history with it that is very attractive to a lot of people.



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 19:21

It's funny,since Sam started you guys have often slated him despite him having an enormously beneficial effect. So I wander what you'll do this time.

 

What do you expect from fans of the sport? Or any sport.

 

Someone is always looking for someone to blame. Scratch that, it's not sport, its life.



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 19:46

They have money. If they didn't, they wouldn't be trying to sign Alonso.

They will have even more money in 2015. The partnership with Honda will bring an enormous amount of financial backing. And they won't be paying for engines.

They have excellent facilities.

And yes, the McLaren name does carry a lot of prestige and history with it that is very attractive to a lot of people.

I'm not convinced about McLaren's financial situation.

 

Alonso brings a lot of sponsorship money with him beyond the obvious Santander connection. The man is singlehandedly responsible for the continuing existence of *two* Spanish grand prix. He probably is the biggest ticket driver money-wise in today's field. McLaren signing him back in '14 or '15 will actually make money for the team.

 

As far as the Honda deal from 2015 onward, I will have to look through the financials. Do we know what kind of investment Honda will make in 2015? What would be the results Honda would like to see from their re-entry into F1? Don't forget, next year's changes will still prioritize aero efficiency over engine performance. And this is where I begin to doubt McLaren's ability to produce a winning car.

 

Traditions are all well and good. However, as the Red Bull/Vettel pairing has shown us over the past four years, a new brand with an excellent driver will bring in a lot of money regardless of a team's pedigree. You and I might be old farts pining for the glory days of '80s-'90s McLaren, but younger fans do not necessarily give a shit about the history.

 

I see it in other sports with freshly minted fans of du jour franchises.



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 19:49

They have money. If they didn't, they wouldn't be trying to sign Alonso.

They will have even more money in 2015. The partnership with Honda will bring an enormous amount of financial backing. And they won't be paying for engines.

They have excellent facilities.

And yes, the McLaren name does carry a lot of prestige and history with it that is very attractive to a lot of people.

 

Replying to an obvious troll? Seriously?



#141 alpinesmuggler

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 19:53

It's funny,since Sam started you guys have often slated him despite him having an enormously beneficial effect. So I wander what you'll do this time.

My favorite team still sucks ass, so please do go into details (NDA permitting) of that "enormously beneficial effect."



#142 alpinesmuggler

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 19:54

Replying to an obvious troll? Seriously?

Thanks for dismissing my opinion. Perhaps you would like to tackle some of the points I brought up.



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 20:00

I'm not convinced about McLaren's financial situation.

 

Alonso brings a lot of sponsorship money with him beyond the obvious Santander connection. The man is singlehandedly responsible for the continuing existence of *two* Spanish grand prix. He probably is the biggest ticket driver money-wise in today's field. McLaren signing him back in '14 or '15 will actually make money for the team.

 

As far as the Honda deal from 2015 onward, I will have to look through the financials. Do we know what kind of investment Honda will make in 2015? What would be the results Honda would like to see from their re-entry into F1? Don't forget, next year's changes will still prioritize aero efficiency over engine performance. And this is where I begin to doubt McLaren's ability to produce a winning car.

 

Traditions are all well and good. However, as the Red Bull/Vettel pairing has shown us over the past four years, a new brand with an excellent driver will bring in a lot of money regardless of a team's pedigree. You and I might be old farts pining for the glory days of '80s-'90s McLaren, but younger fans do not necessarily give a shit about the history.

 

I see it in other sports with freshly minted fans of du jour franchises.

 

Not anymore. Valencia is gone.

 

http://www.motorspor...f1-foray-ended/



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 21:08

Whoever it is, I hope they can fix whats wrong with the car. I can't do another season like this one, not next year anyway. But we all know how McLaren goes...good year....bad year....good year..?



#145 alpinesmuggler

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 21:37

Not anymore. Valencia is gone.

 

http://www.motorspor...f1-foray-ended/

Good news, cheers! Horrible circuit. Like racing in an '80s F1 game with a few cranes, a few boats, and a shitload of walls.



#146 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:06

Tobias Grüner ams F1 @tgruener
AMuS exclusive: Ross Brawn denies decision about leaving @MercedesAMGF1. "Did not talk to McLaren or Honda." 


#147 eronrules

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:22

Not anymore. Valencia is gone.

 

http://www.motorspor...f1-foray-ended/

please please please take Barcelona with you ... that track is the MOST boring race track of the whole season, it's a snooze fest, even with cheese tires and DRS, go to Aragon 
FFS (a few grand stand is all that's needed). if Mokpo can host a race, Aragon will too. 



#148 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:33

McLaren's new tech signings is the topic.



#149 eronrules

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:36

McLaren's new tech signings is the topic.

roger that  :blush:



#150 Tron

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:49

Newey might probably will want to leave Redbull undefeated there, and seriously retake the fight at McLaren. He won't go to Ferrari due to the culture change, so it's either RB or McLaren (if they can pay him), otherwise retirement of the sport.

 

And his name is the only one that will make headlines, unless it's a Whitmarsh PR tactic...