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What are the chances of Sebastian Vettel heading to Ferrari in 2015?


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Will Sebastian Vettel move to Ferrari in 2015?

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#51 Ian G

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 22:55

I think he'll move on to another challenge in 2015 or 2016 if only to satisfy his ego that his dominance is because of his driving ability and not because of a Newey designed car,i also wouldn't rule out Merc. making a move next year to secure him for 2016.



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#52 scheivlak

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 23:08

I think he'll move on to another challenge in 2015 or 2016 if only to satisfy his ego that his dominance is because of his driving ability and not because of a Newey designed car

In other words: it would be a sign of ego insecurity - I don't think he suffers from that.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:57

I think he'll move on to another challenge in 2015 or 2016 if only to satisfy his ego that his dominance is because of his driving ability and not because of a Newey designed car,i also wouldn't rule out Merc. making a move next year to secure him for 2016.

 

Sebastian would never show the disrespect for Newey that so many fans have.  Sebastian knows how many long hours have gone into Newey chewing on his pens and eating his papers in order to develop a car that suits Sebastian to a T - allowing man and machine to deliver 3 championships. 

 

I think if Vettel were to go to Ferrari in 2015, it would be on his own terms, but with every respect accorded to RBR for all that they have achieved together.  Sometimes I think fans forget just how much work goes into this...



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:23

Vettel will move to WDC &  WCC winning car in 2015. That means Lotus.

 

About Ferrari - I do not see him there any soon.


Edited by Shiroo, 15 October 2013 - 06:24.


#55 Spillage

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 10:33

I think he's torn at the moment. I've no doubt he'd love to drive for Ferrari and prove once and for all his talent, but he's very close and loyal to his current team and doesn't really want to be racing against them, rather than with them. I'm not just talking about Horner and Newey here, but Rocky, the guys in the garage, everybody.

 

That said, Newey has said a number of times that he wants to try his hand at sailing. How long will he go on for? Similarly Horner - will he look for a new challenge? So I think there's a time coming in the near future where the Red Bull dream team breaks up, just as Ferrari's did at the end of 2006. At that time I can see Vettel leaving and possibly taking Horner with him, as Schumacher did with Brawn/Byrne when he went to Ferrari.

 

But where he will go, I think it is too early to say. I think Ferrari would love him to be the man to succeed Alonso, but will Alonso still be there in 2015? In any case this, I suspect, is too early for the Red Bull breakup which I believe is the only thing that will trigger Vettel's departure. It is possible he could seek a new challenge at Lotus or, if Hamilton's Mercedes sojourn ends in disappointment, Vettel could try his hand over there. 

 

In essence, I think Alonso may well be out of Ferrari at the end of next year. This would create an opening that could be filled by Vettel, but he's signed for 2015 and such a loyal guy that I don't think he'll entertain for a second the possibility of breaking his contract. That Ferrari have hired Kimi gives him more time - I can't see Kimi carrying on for much longer than 2015, and if that is the point that Newey calls it a day and Vettel decides to look elsewhere, I don't see why Ferrari wouldn't just nerf Kimi out - they've done it before, after all.

 

So, for 2015: extremely unlikely

But for 2016: extremely possible



#56 mtojay

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 12:24

he has stated more than once that it is his dream to drive in red.

 

"Keine Frage, es ist mein Wunsch und Ziel, mal für Ferrari zu fahren. Das kann man schon so sagen."

"No question, its my wish and target to drive for ferrari someday. You can say it like this." - vettel 2010 (till then he said similar things on different occasions)

 

he is 26 you cant forget that. he will have a lot of years left in formula 1. he will chose the right time to go to ferrari but he most probably will drive for them in his career. in 2015? i dont think so, but still could happen.



#57 as65p

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 12:48

Depends. I guess he'll get interested when Alonso is out of the way, not a second earlier.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 13:16

Sebastian would never show the disrespect for Newey that so many fans have. Sebastian knows how many long hours have gone into Newey chewing on his pens and eating his papers in order to develop a car that suits Sebastian to a T - allowing man and machine to deliver 3 championships.

I think if Vettel were to go to Ferrari in 2015, it would be on his own terms, but with every respect accorded to RBR for all that they have achieved together. Sometimes I think fans forget just how much work goes into this...


Sorry but once you are a 4xWDC, your patience gets shorter and shorter. If Vettel gets dethroned next year I feel it for Red Bull and Newey. The roumours about Vettel leaving will be overwelming. Just like in 2010 and 2012 when Ferrari got a short wind of success, Vettel already had a "pre-contract" signed for Ferrari for 2014 and his move was "inevitable". So much for respecting Newey and co.

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 13:45

I think he's torn at the moment. I've no doubt he'd love to drive for Ferrari and prove once and for all his talent, but he's very close and loyal to his current team and doesn't really want to be racing against them, rather than with them. I'm not just talking about Horner and Newey here, but Rocky, the guys in the garage, everybody.
 
That said, Newey has said a number of times that he wants to try his hand at sailing. How long will he go on for? Similarly Horner - will he look for a new challenge? So I think there's a time coming in the near future where the Red Bull dream team breaks up, just as Ferrari's did at the end of 2006. At that time I can see Vettel leaving and possibly taking Horner with him, as Schumacher did with Brawn/Byrne when he went to Ferrari.
 
But where he will go, I think it is too early to say. I think Ferrari would love him to be the man to succeed Alonso, but will Alonso still be there in 2015? In any case this, I suspect, is too early for the Red Bull breakup which I believe is the only thing that will trigger Vettel's departure. It is possible he could seek a new challenge at Lotus or, if Hamilton's Mercedes sojourn ends in disappointment, Vettel could try his hand over there. 
 
In essence, I think Alonso may well be out of Ferrari at the end of next year. This would create an opening that could be filled by Vettel, but he's signed for 2015 and such a loyal guy that I don't think he'll entertain for a second the possibility of breaking his contract. That Ferrari have hired Kimi gives him more time - I can't see Kimi carrying on for much longer than 2015, and if that is the point that Newey calls it a day and Vettel decides to look elsewhere, I don't see why Ferrari wouldn't just nerf Kimi out - they've done it before, after all.
 
So, for 2015: extremely unlikely
But for 2016: extremely possible

 
Agree about that part.
 
Someday most likely. In 2015? I don't think so. From what I see if anything he feels closer than ever to the team since the 'Vettel to Ferrari in 2014' rumors having died. It doesn't seem to bother him at all that people insist his achievement is less meaningful because it's done in a so-called drink company team, and rightly so.
 

- (June, after extending his contract with RB) http://www.bild.de/s...51264.bild.html - Google translate
Vettel's explained: "For me it's a strong team, in which the harmony and togetherness is above all. We have become a close-knit troupe at Red Bull over the years. I like that."
 
 
- (July) http://www.faz.net/a...e-12268766.html - Google translate
Q. You have extended your contract with Red Bull until the end of 2015. Why you are scared to switch teams?
SV: This has nothing to do with shyness, I currently have no reason to do so. In the coming year there is a new engine formula (six-cylinder instead of eight-cylinder engines), no one knows exactly what to expect on the Formula 1 and the teams. The balance of power could be completely shaken up. We are very much demanded. Still, I want this step to go with Red Bull. I am aware that the shot can go in the wrong direction that we follow behind at a time. But then I am motivated enough to bring us back to where we are. This has something to do with loyalty. I want to stay loyal to the team, to help them and would not say after the first bad result: OK, that was it. Bye!
 
Q. But the respect for you would not grow if you don't prove to be successful with a second team?
SV: I will not change the team to prove something to people. The only important thing to me is what I see in the mirror. Fame for me is not that I go to another team and there show you what I can do. I do not feel I have to prove anything to anyone here - except maybe myself
 

- (July) http://www.formula1....13/7/14833.html
Q: Did you ever dream as a boy of one day driving for Ferrari?
SV: Of course, as my hero Michael Schumacher was wearing red! So as a youngster you imagine yourself taking the place of your idol. Nowadays I see it differently: I am very happy in blue and very happy with the team I am racing for.



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#60 EthanM

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 13:50

my personal opinion is that Vettel's view of Ferrari is similar to Senna's view of Ferrari, ie I should drive for them one day cause you need to have Ferrari in your CV, but in the meantime I want to win and I want the best car available to me.

Ferrari might want him, but unless they convince him they offer him a better environment in which to win he won't be in any rush to join them



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 14:01

 
Agree about that part.
 
Someday most likely. In 2015? I don't think so. From what I see if anything he feels closer than ever to the team since the 'Vettel to Ferrari in 2014' rumors having died. It doesn't seem to bother him at all that people insist his achievement is less meaningful because it's done in a so-called drink company team, and rightly so.
 

- (June, after extending his contract with RB) http://www.bild.de/s...51264.bild.html - Google translate
Vettel's explained: "For me it's a strong team, in which the harmony and togetherness is above all. We have become a close-knit troupe at Red Bull over the years. I like that."
 
 
- (July) http://www.faz.net/a...e-12268766.html - Google translate
Q. You have extended your contract with Red Bull until the end of 2015. Why you are scared to switch teams?
SV: This has nothing to do with shyness, I currently have no reason to do so. In the coming year there is a new engine formula (six-cylinder instead of eight-cylinder engines), no one knows exactly what to expect on the Formula 1 and the teams. The balance of power could be completely shaken up. We are very much demanded. Still, I want this step to go with Red Bull. I am aware that the shot can go in the wrong direction that we follow behind at a time. But then I am motivated enough to bring us back to where we are. This has something to do with loyalty. I want to stay loyal to the team, to help them and would not say after the first bad result: OK, that was it. Bye!
 
Q. But the respect for you would not grow if you don't prove to be successful with a second team?
SV: I will not change the team to prove something to people. The only important thing to me is what I see in the mirror. Fame for me is not that I go to another team and there show you what I can do. I do not feel I have to prove anything to anyone here - except maybe myself
 

- (July) http://www.formula1....13/7/14833.html
Q: Did you ever dream as a boy of one day driving for Ferrari?
SV: Of course, as my hero Michael Schumacher was wearing red! So as a youngster you imagine yourself taking the place of your idol. Nowadays I see it differently: I am very happy in blue and very happy with the team I am racing for.

At that time, he wasn't booed after every race, so his views might have changed since then. He might pretend that the booing doesn't bother him, but of course it does--it would bother anyone to get booed after doing his best.  He must know that one way  to stop the booing is to go to Ferrari and obtain their huge fanbase. It might be the only way to stop it, actually, besides stopping winning, of course. 



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 14:12

At that time, he wasn't booed after every race, so his views might have changed since then. He might pretend that the booing doesn't bother him, but of course it does--it would bother anyone to get booed after doing his best.  He must know that one way  to stop the booing is to go to Ferrari and obtain their huge fanbase. It might be the only way to stop it, actually, besides stopping winning, of course. 

Funnily enough, I get the opposite impression. The more they say he should go to a more historic team to earn their respect, the more he feels loyal to his current team. Who knows though.  :)



#63 EthanM

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 14:17

At that time, he wasn't booed after every race, so his views might have changed since then. He might pretend that the booing doesn't bother him, but of course it does--it would bother anyone to get booed after doing his best.  He must know that one way  to stop the booing is to go to Ferrari and obtain their huge fanbase. It might be the only way to stop it, actually, besides stopping winning, of course. 

 

or since the bulk of the boos come from redcap wearing yobs he just gets extra motivated to beat Ferrari



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 14:20

Funnily enough, I get the opposite impression. The more they say he should go to a more historic team to earn their respect, the more he feels loyal to his current team. Who knows though.  :)

It's not a question of loyalty. I do believe that Vettel is loyal to RBR and loves the team. It's not about earning respect -- I'm sure fans who boo him respect his achievements, but it doesn't stop them from booing him because they aren't his fans; booing isn't rational. So it's not about earning respect. It's about earning fans. I think there's nothing more humiliating and depressing  to a driver than to drive his heart out, then get booed on the podium in front of the entire world. I think if it continues, it would make Ferrari more tempting to Vettel.



#65 plumtree

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 14:54

As I said it's only my impression. So I can't prove anything though I really don't think he cares much about booing or at least feels that way at the moment. There's no denying that it's not a pleasant feeling but does it hurt bad enough that moving to Ferrari option starts looking more attractive than it did a few months ago for him? I doubt it and wouldn't be surprised if he became disenchanted a bit with the red team.



#66 skc

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 15:53

His "I love you" radio message to the team seemed oddly sincere. No idea what his plans for the future are now.



#67 V3TT3L

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 16:33

Vettel has to exhaust the Newey relationship ay RedBull before moving on.

or

Maybe Vettel can carry on w/ Newey at Ferrari  :D



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 16:37

dunno but i hope it happens as he will surely continue to win the title every year wherever he goes such is his level of absolute jaw dropping unrivalled talent relative to the rest of the grid. It will be a wonderful moment when he shuts up all the haters and wins again in a non red bull car, he's so good he can win at any team. He will remember as the greatest that ever lived, 2.5 seconds more talented a lap than everyone else at Singapore, not even Senna could dream of being that talented.

 

Seb is the best, all bow down before his godliness. Newey is lucky to have such a freak talent who is able to make his average cars look better than the rest.



#69 garagetinkerer

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 17:24

dunno but i hope it happens as he will surely continue to win the title every year wherever he goes such is his level of absolute jaw dropping unrivalled talent relative to the rest of the grid. It will be a wonderful moment when he shuts up all the haters and wins again in a non red bull car, he's so good he can win at any team. He will remember as the greatest that ever lived, 2.5 seconds more talented a lap than everyone else at Singapore, not even Senna could dream of being that talented.

 

Seb is the best, all bow down before his godliness. Newey is lucky to have such a freak talent who is able to make his average cars look better than the rest.

Why so obvious?



#70 sennafan24

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 17:27

dunno but i hope it happens as he will surely continue to win the title every year wherever he goes such is his level of absolute jaw dropping unrivalled talent relative to the rest of the grid. It will be a wonderful moment when he shuts up all the haters and wins again in a non red bull car, he's so good he can win at any team. He will remember as the greatest that ever lived, 2.5 seconds more talented a lap than everyone else at Singapore, not even Senna could dream of being that talented.

 

Seb is the best, all bow down before his godliness. Newey is lucky to have such a freak talent who is able to make his average cars look better than the rest.

Too far

 

Seb is a fantastic driver, and probably the best on the grid on current form, but he is not that far above the other drivers. Senna and Schumacher have had examples of jaw dropping performances on par with Seb's Singapore effort.



#71 RosannaG

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 17:30

Too far

 

Seb is a fantastic driver, and probably the best on the grid on current form, but he is not that far above the other drivers. Senna and Schumacher have had examples of jaw dropping performances on par with Seb's Singapore effort.

 

I'm afraid Moosed was being sarcastic...  :lol:



#72 sennafan24

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 17:31

I'm afraid Moosed was being sarcastic...  :lol:

:lol:

 

Long day, what a silly billy I am  :down:



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 17:34

:lol:

 

Long day, what a silly billy I am  :down:

 

No you are not...  :wave:

 

That could happen to anyone...  :p



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 17:36

just when i thought id made it so obvious that no one could possibly think it was real...


Edited by Moosed, 15 October 2013 - 17:36.


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Posted 15 October 2013 - 17:43

just when i thought id made it so obvious that no one could possibly think it was real...

 

You are playing with fire here...  :rolleyes:



#76 SpaMaster

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 17:48

If Raikkonen returned to Ferrari, it means the doors have been wide open for Vettel to go to Ferrari but he has chosen not to.

Why would he? If the Ferrari car continues to be a dog why would Vettel want to see Riccardo become a 8 times WDC

Ferrari continues to be a dog? Is that how all F1 cars are called now?

 

 

Sorry but once you are a 4xWDC, your patience gets shorter and shorter. If Vettel gets dethroned next year I feel it for Red Bull and Newey. The roumours about Vettel leaving will be overwelming. Just like in 2010 and 2012 when Ferrari got a short wind of success, Vettel already had a "pre-contract" signed for Ferrari for 2014 and his move was "inevitable". So much for respecting Newey and co.

Unbelievable, really! Why do you want to shove 'Newey disrespect' into Vettel anyway? Plain delusion. This righting of every dubious thing one's favourite driver does and the tiring cynicism on other drivers at the same time is just tedious.


 


Edited by SpaMaster, 15 October 2013 - 18:10.


#77 Moosed

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 17:50

You are playing with fire here...  :rolleyes:

sarcasm is banned on these forums ?



#78 sennafan24

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 17:51

sarcasm is banned on these forums ?

It is when it tricks me when I am half awake   ;)



#79 RosannaG

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 17:58

sarcasm is banned on these forums ?

 

As far as I know it is not... But playing with fire is always risky...  :lol:



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#80 SebnandoKimilton

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 18:46

2016 will be the year we hear the German & Italian anthems played again.

 

I will only happen in 2015 if next year Red Bull falter & Raikkonen beats Alonso.



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Posted 16 October 2013 - 12:32

No eye contact and minimal acknowledgement. Completely different to previous races before Kimi signed for Ferrari. Kimi knows (and probably accepts) that Vettel blocked it. It will come out in time. RB would have been nuts to say no to Kimi over Riccardo for a season or two.

Thats a strange observation you are making.Kimi and Seb flew together to Japan with some other drivers and Journalists plus Kimi invited Seb to fly back to Suzuka in his private jet.I dont think thier personal relationship is affected.



#82 Hayden1

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 13:16

Vettel will move to WDC &  WCC winning car in 2015. That means Lotus.

 

About Ferrari - I do not see him there any soon.

I do not know what you are taking but I think you should put it off .


Edited by Hayden1, 16 October 2013 - 13:17.