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[RAGE12463]

Forget Toro Rosso -- put him in the Red Bull next to Vettel.

Imagine 2 finger wags  oh my

[charly0418]

to be honest the kid was Vettel like on the last Gp3 races. He kept destrorying everyone on quallifying beating people by more than 3 tenths, then the race would start he'd have a clean getaway and that was it

[Baddoer]

So basically we got next Vettel in the end. Congratulations everyone.

[kimister]

When Vettel is off to Ferrari, Kvyat will be in Red Bull 

[Gilles4Ever]

Pablo Elizalde @EliGP

Kvyat will drive in FP1 in USA and Brazil after securing a super licence

 

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/111238

[olliek88]

When Vettel is off to Ferrari, Kvyat will be in Red Bull 

 

Lets not jump the gun. I remember a lot of folks around here saying that about JEV and writing Ric off when they started off as teams mates, look how that ended up. Give the kid time, he's going to need it.

[Gilles4Ever]

Well that wasn't a bad debut. Never done an official session, never driven this track, 0.2 slower than Riccardo who raced here last year and knows the car.

[Kvyat]

AFDC left RB scratching their heads and Kvyat isn't doing that

 

I think they should have hired both but I guess they kept JEV for reference to see how Kvyat compares to him

 

Won't be surprised if JEV get's sacked midseason and AFDC replaces him, but that's OT now

[X61]

Great first session for him, hope it's a sign of things to come for him.

[GhostR]

Well that wasn't a bad debut. Never done an official session, never driven this track, 0.2 slower than Riccardo who raced here last year and knows the car.

Agreed it's an impressive first run. Ricciardo's typically not on the pace on Friday's though.

[olliek88]

Positive start. Dan is never flat out in the FP session's but even so for the gap to be only 2 tenths with such little experience is impressive.

[Thespianoid]

Am I the only one who is annoyed by Sky's pronunciation of Kvyat? Doesn't sound anything like how it sounds in Russian.

I understand it's probably quite difficult to pronounce all that in one syllable, but at least get the emphasis on the right part of the word (kv-YAT, not KVY-at).

 

http://youtu.be/SPsVw61YjLc?t=29s

 

The actual word is around 0:32 or 0:33, but I linked it just before to give a bit of a buffer. 

 

And for more evidence, if you want to hear him pronouce his own name, it's here around 3:06 or so. 

 

http://youtu.be/ydJP5oulHpw?t=3m2s

Edited by Thespianoid, 15 November 2013 - 21:21.

[apoka]

Positive start. Dan is never flat out in the FP session's but even so for the gap to be only 2 tenths with such little experience is impressive.

 

Do they actually both have "Dan" as their nick name?

[froggy22]

Am I the only one who is annoyed by Sky's pronunciation of Kvyat? Doesn't sound anything like how it sounds in Russian.

I understand it's probably quite difficult to pronounce all that in one syllable, but at least get the emphasis on the right part of the word (kv-YAT, not KVY-at).

 

http://youtu.be/SPsVw61YjLc?t=29s

 

The actual word is around 0:32 or 0:33, but I linked it just before to give a bit of a buffer. 

 

And for more evidence, if you want to hear him pronouce his own name, it's here around 3:06 or so. 

 

http://youtu.be/ydJP5oulHpw?t=3m2s

Not just you. I always feel Crofty is saying "Fiat".

[ANF]

Not just you. I always feel Crofty is saying "Fiat".

He should say Piaf. http://www.forvo.com.../édith_piaf/#fr

[bushgold]

i wonder if button and webber are still "surprised" that the youngster landed the drive. 

[Nobody]

Am I the only one who is annoyed by Sky's pronunciation of Kvyat? Doesn't sound anything like how it sounds in Russian.

I understand it's probably quite difficult to pronounce all that in one syllable, but at least get the emphasis on the right part of the word (kv-YAT, not KVY-at).

 

http://youtu.be/SPsVw61YjLc?t=29s

 

The actual word is around 0:32 or 0:33, but I linked it just before to give a bit of a buffer. 

 

And for more evidence, if you want to hear him pronouce his own name, it's here around 3:06 or so. 

 

http://youtu.be/ydJP5oulHpw?t=3m2s

 

Annoys me too, happens all the time with Slavic surnames - Maria Sharapova is perfect example, pronounced SHARA-pova not sha-ra-POVA.

 

But either way, kid looks quick and confident, fares well for RB and the emerging Russian market

[Maustinsj]

Am I the only one who is annoyed by Sky's pronunciation of Kvyat? Doesn't sound anything like how it sounds in Russian.
I understand it's probably quite difficult to pronounce all that in one syllable, but at least get the emphasis on the right part of the word (kv-YAT, not KVY-at).

http://youtu.be/SPsVw61YjLc?t=29s

The actual word is around 0:32 or 0:33, but I linked it just before to give a bit of a buffer.

And for more evidence, if you want to hear him pronouce his own name, it's here around 3:06 or so.

http://youtu.be/ydJP5oulHpw?t=3m2s

It's worse on the bbc. More like kuh-FEE-at from them...and there's a whole department devoted to correct pronunciation at the beeb too.

GRRRRR!

[g1n]

It is not "k-fiat" by the way it is more like the "ja" from drink jagermesiter, so it's KvJAt.

[Thespianoid]

I know, they pronounce it incredibly stupidly. I could understand if Sky/BBC pronounced Kvyat with a space between the V and Y, but to blindly continue placing the emphasis on the wrong part of the word is unacceptable. 

Edited by Thespianoid, 22 November 2013 - 21:20.

[billm99uk]

Looking at home already

[Juan Kerr]

I don't give a flying toss how its pronounced and until the Russians or anyone else non-English start pronouncing English words properly why would I expect any different?

[Velocifer]

Totally impressed with Kvyat. Seems like one of those rare drivers who is both fast and have a cool thinking head with confidence to match.

Looks like the new star of F1, but then huge Russia was bound to come up with something sooner or later so not totally surprised to see someone from there.

 

Wouldn't be surprised if he already comes up with a knockout race result already next year.

[Les]

As good old Murray would say.. 'I'm going to stick my neck out' and confess that I personally think 'Fiat' will be one of 2014's less controversial signings or the new Kimi or both.  

[Les]

I hope 'Croftys' 'Fiat' tag sticks. Its too good not too. 

[Maustinsj]

I don't give a flying toss how its pronounced and until the Russians or anyone else non-English start pronouncing English words properly why would I expect any different?

 

That certainly explains the username

[midgrid]

Meanwhile, DTM for Da Costa?

[st99]

Meanwhile, DTM for Da Costa?

 

If both Vergne and Sainz Jr. continue like this season next year he might have a shot to be in TR in 2015.

[sopa]

If both Vergne and Sainz Jr. continue like this season next year he might have a shot to be in TR in 2015.

 

Doesn't Red Bull have anyone else coming up? Why would they promote a driver a year later after deciding that he wasn't quite impressive enough to promote to F1 at all? And even more so, after a season in DTM...

[Thespianoid]

Red Bull just signed Pierre Gasly to their Junior Team, and are also rumored to be signing Dennis Olsen. If Gasly has an impressive season in FR3.5 next year, he could theoretically get a call up. 

[st99]

I think Gasly is too young to go to F1 even in 2015, he's only 17.

They have Tom Blomqvist (at least I think he's still in the Junior Team) , who is 20 right now and raced this season in F3 so he may go to FR 3.5 next year (it's weird that he wasn't never mentioned for the Toro Rosso seat this year because he's older that both Kvyat and Sainz).

 

I believe that the plan is to promote Sainz Jr,in my opinion RB want him and Kvyat together in F1 in a near future because they're the truly RB "homegrown" drivers that have been in the Junior Team since karting (2009).

Edited by st99, 30 November 2013 - 22:33.

[Thespianoid]

I forgot about Blomqvist, my bad. He'll be ahead of Gasly and behind Sainz on the depth chart I think. 

 

I don't know why Red Bull keep giving Sainz so many chances, he's shown very little improvement to his lack of racecraft the past few years. If he didn't have a famous name, money, and connections, he'd have gotten the boot already. Maybe he's one of those guys that takes a while to round into form, sorta like Grosjean. 

Edited by Thespianoid, 30 November 2013 - 22:54.

[F1Champion]

Given Magnussen is going into McLaren race seat, have RB made a mistake putting Daniil in a Toro Rosso rather than a RB when he is showing such speed at his age? I think Ricciardo will be under pressure to deliver quickly.

[rjsports]

You don't even know how Magnussen will perform. Magnussen is also older than Kvyat. Of course Ricciardo will be under pressure but that goes for everybody on the grid.

[DutchQuicksilver]

Given Magnussen is going into McLaren race seat, have RB made a mistake putting Daniil in a Toro Rosso rather than a RB when he is showing such speed at his age? I think Ricciardo will be under pressure to deliver quickly.

Red Bull isn't the kind of team that's adventurous in their driver choice (Coulthard, Webber, Vettel were pretty safe choices). Same as Ferrari really.

Edited by DutchQuicksilver, 01 December 2013 - 11:50.

[sergeym]

Given Magnussen is going into McLaren race seat, have RB made a mistake putting Daniil in a Toro Rosso rather than a RB when he is showing such speed at his age? I think Ricciardo will be under pressure to deliver quickly.

 

Driving for RB means expectations of podiums, wins and even championships. And while Kvyat seems to have genuine speed, he still has a lot to learn in F1. 

[apoka]

Red Bull isn't the kind of team that's adventurous in their driver choice (Coulthard, Webber, Vettel were pretty safe choices). Same as Ferrari really.

 

I think Kvyat will be very strong, a possible future star, but if you put him in an RB now, that could easily kill his career. You need a few years preparation before going against Vettel (before anyone brings up Hamilton: he was more an exception than the rule and I think he was 22 when he came to F1 whereas Kvyat will be 19). And while most people know that, it still looks bad on your CV when you finish behind.

[LuckyStrike1]

If McLaren had a Toro Rosso they would have put Magnussen there in his rookie season without a doubt. But McLaren doesn't have a Toro Rosso.

[DutchQuicksilver]

If McLaren had a Toro Rosso they would have put Magnussen there in his rookie season without a doubt. But McLaren doesn't have a Toro Rosso.

Doubtful. They didn't put Hamilton in a Midland/Spyker back in '07 when they had a chance to do that and didn't put Magnussen in a Force India or Marussia for next season when they had the chance to do that. If only more top teams would take a gamble with these young stars. Agreed, not everyone will become a Hamilton, but still.

Edited by DutchQuicksilver, 01 December 2013 - 14:48.

[Elloh]

Doubtful. They didn't put Hamilton in a Midland/Spyker back in '07 when they had a chance to do that and didn't put Magnussen in a Force India or Marussia for next season when they had the chance to do that. If only more top teams would take a gamble with these young stars. Agreed, not everyone will become a Hamilton, but still.

 

McLaren tried to put Lewis in other cars. But they didn´t succeed so he got the McLaren seat in the end. They did try to put Magnussen in both FI but mostly Marussia for a long time, but failed to have an agreement with Marussia. So finally they placed him where they found a seat for him, in their own team. They got seats in Mclaren due to failures to find seats for them, RB have always seats in TR.

[st99]

I forgot about Blomqvist, my bad. He'll be ahead of Gasly and behind Sainz on the depth chart I think. 

 

I don't know why Red Bull keep giving Sainz so many chances, he's shown very little improvement to his lack of racecraft the past few years. If he didn't have a famous name, money, and connections, he'd have gotten the boot already. Maybe he's one of those guys that takes a while to round into form, sorta like Grosjean. 

 

I'm suprised about Red Bull's patience with Sainz too. He was very impressive in his first years in single seaters, he even battled with Frijns for the title in FR 2.0, but since then he hasn't developped anymore. There's no doubt that he's quick but he keeps making silly mistakes that make him lose a lot of points. I'm dissapointed because as a Spaniard I'd like to see him in F1 but if he continues like this not even his father's connections with Red Bull will save him from getting fired of the RBJT.

[bourbon]

I think Kvyat will be very strong, a possible future star, but if you put him in an RB now, that could easily kill his career. You need a few years preparation before going against Vettel (before anyone brings up Hamilton: he was more an exception than the rule and I think he was 22 when he came to F1 whereas Kvyat will be 19). And while most people know that, it still looks bad on your CV when you finish behind.

 

Agreed, they would never pull him straight into RBR.  If he does what he's been doing, he will do very well in TRR and be pulled into RBR soon enough (either if Daniel isn't going well or if Sebastian leaves).  

[DutchQuicksilver]

McLaren tried to put Lewis in other cars. But they didn´t succeed so he got the McLaren seat in the end. They did try to put Magnussen in both FI but mostly Marussia for a long time, but failed to have an agreement with Marussia. So finally they placed him where they found a seat for him, in their own team. They got seats in Mclaren due to failures to find seats for them, RB have always seats in TR.

That doesn't make sense. It's like "oh we can't put him in a different team to gain experience, heck then we'll just put him in or own team then."

[LuckyStrike1]

Doubtful. They didn't put Hamilton in a Midland/Spyker back in '07 when they had a chance to do that and didn't put Magnussen in a Force India or Marussia for next season when they had the chance to do that. If only more top teams would take a gamble with these young stars. Agreed, not everyone will become a Hamilton, but still.

 

 

Well McLaren doesn't have a Toro Rosso - a team where they control who the drivers are. Red Bull does. 

 

If McLaren did, they would have put Magnussen there. Maybe also Hamilton although a rookie could be so much better prepared in those days than he can now. 

 

Now McLaren has to rely on competitors accepting to groom a driver for McLaren in the certain knowledge that if he's any good he will dissapear from the team shortly. Very different to Red Bulls situation where they have their very own team where they can groom F1-drivers before taking them into the main team. 

Edited by LuckyStrike1, 01 December 2013 - 21:01.