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#1 reservoircogs

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 14:29

Does anyone own or know the whereabouts of any other Harris/Roc YZR500s? Just done a piece on this one, and it got my brain wondering where the rest are?

 

http://www.rescogs.c...kevin-mitchell/

 

Scottie



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#2 picblanc

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 15:13

Hi Scott, nice to see you on here again, are you back on your web mag?

Thought you might like to see this of Kevin from 1992.

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#3 havachat

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 15:56

I have some pics of the bikes at the harris factory as I was seans race engineer in 92 and 94, if anyone is interested and can tell me how to post them on here.

I still have a set of gearing charts and an engine parts list with yamaha part numbers.

I think clive padgett still has his bike and also still has some engine parts 

forum member 2strokesonly has a roc 500 in lopez mella repsol colours but one of his friends has a harris I think.

 

terry maybe you can confirm that?



#4 picblanc

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 16:00

Simon Buckmasters Harris in 1992.

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#5 havachat

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 16:02

Further to my previous post

Peter Graves had frame number 001 if I remember correctly..not sure if he still has it

others were run by Kees Doorakers Nigi Schmassmun (not sure if they are the correct spelling) Michael Rudroff all ran them at some point

in 94 a bike was run by a german team the rider was called neukirshner 

Alf Mossell was pretty friendly with those guys and I think he is a forum member, he still works at harris as far as I know he may have more info



#6 picblanc

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 16:04

Be great to see those HC, you need to have a photo host site i:e photobucket or flickr? if its easier you could email them to me & I will post them for you?

email g.etheridge@ntlworld.com

Graham.



#7 havachat

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 16:21

just emailed you some pics graham

If you want to see the parts list pm me your addy and I'll get them copied and sent by snail mail

I'll just go and scan the gearing chart if I can dig it out

colin



#8 picblanc

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 16:24

Good idea Colin, I will pm you.



#9 picblanc

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 16:38

Might help if I gave you the right email addy!!

graham.etheridge@ntlworld.com

 

:blush:  :blush:



#10 havachat

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 16:44

ha ha ha

I'll put it down to age

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#11 picblanc

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 16:49

Photos arrived, I will put my watermark on them to protect them, but they of course belong to you & I will not post them anywhere else.

#12 havachat

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 17:00

cheers ears



#13 havachat

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 17:00

are you into some modern stuff?



#14 picblanc

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 22:05

Harris 500.

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#15 picblanc

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 22:10

Harris 500

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#16 picblanc

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 22:13

Harris 500

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#17 picblanc

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 22:14

Harris 500

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Edited by picblanc, 25 October 2013 - 22:14.


#18 GD66

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 22:16

Yum ! Thanks for sharing. :love:



#19 picblanc

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 22:21

Sean Emmett on the 1994 or was it 1993? Harris 500.

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#20 picblanc

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 22:22

More to come. :smoking:



#21 picblanc

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 22:26

Andrew Stroud Harris 500.

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#22 havachat

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 03:26

those 2 were 1993 in that colour scheme



#23 havachat

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 03:28

seat hump was different from the 92 buckmaster picture.

it changed again in 94 as the whole seat subframe changed from alloy to carbon fibre



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Posted 26 October 2013 - 06:29

There are still a Harris and a ROC raced in the German 'IG K√∂nigsklasse' (2 strokes only) Championship

 

http://www.igkoenigs...tpage&Itemid=17


Edited by Rennmax, 26 October 2013 - 07:36.


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Posted 26 October 2013 - 08:58

There are still a Harris and a ROC raced in the German 'IG K√∂nigsklasse' (2 strokes only) Championship
 
http://www.igkoenigs...tpage&Itemid=17


Great to see them being used! :up:



#26 tonyed

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 09:18

Jims' Harris YZR is up for sale, 65 grand, if anyone feels generous enough to buy it for me. :rolleyes:



#27 Macca

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 09:21

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3f2abf17d2

 

Get your chequebooks out.............

 

 

Paul M



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Posted 26 October 2013 - 17:31

From "tother" side,

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 17:33

Sean Emmett Harris,

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#30 havachat

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 17:41

for those interested, the guy kneeling in the photo above is Dudley Crammond.

Eastern Creek 1994



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Posted 26 October 2013 - 18:57

This is for the anoraks,gearingchart_zps814ff4c3.jpg

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#32 picblanc

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 19:40

Restored Harris & ROC500 Yamahas.

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#33 picblanc

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 19:47

Harris 500

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#34 havachat

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 20:34

The double photo from eastern creek 1994  has 19 bike of Sean Emmett 

the 52 bike was ridden by wild card Scott Doohan....Micks brother

Unfortunately I don't have any results...I seem to remember Sean finished about 12th I think



#35 picblanc

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 19:20

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#36 picblanc

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 19:21

Where's Dogninton?

#37 fil2.8

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 19:44

Where's Dogninton?

 

 

 

Perhaps it's near Poulton Ark  :rolleyes:



#38 havachat

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 19:58

and wheres Bruno?

these were before spellcheck....lol



#39 havachat

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 20:01

oh and primaly

this stuff has been in the cupboard under my stairs for nearly 20 years and I hadn't looked at them since 



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Posted 27 October 2013 - 20:07

and wheres Bruno?

 

 

 

 

Frank , you mean ?? , probably rehearsing for a Pantomime  :eek:



#41 picblanc

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 20:25

and wheres Bruno?

these were before spellcheck....lol

:lol:  missed that!!



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Posted 28 October 2013 - 23:28

Great stuff all this

 

To think it was all made not far from me in Stevenage!

 

I seem to remember Sean using one of those huge Mockett fairings?

 

And also didn't they copy their later body work from scrap Cagiva bits they found in a bin!



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Posted 29 October 2013 - 08:36

Great stuff all this

 

To think it was all made not far from me in Stevenage!

 

I seem to remember Sean using one of those huge Mockett fairings?

 

And also didn't they copy their later body work from scrap Cagiva bits they found in a bin!

Certainly the Emmett & Scott Doohan bikes have the same style front fairing as the Cagiva.



#44 havachat

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 13:38

behind the opening in the fairing nose in the 94 pics was an airbox that ran down either side of the fairing and the enclosed the carbs, effectively force feeding them.

Unfortunately I didn't take any photos.

Usually because I had no film in my camera...lol

remember this was before mobile phones and digital cameras

 

the original bike and carbon fibre were a fairly close copy of an ex Rainey bike from 90 or 91 I think...can't remember exactly if I'm honest

But probably 90 as we had the bike in the workshop in Hertford late summer 91, pretty much all of the frame and bodywork were made in house

Suspension was Ohlins and brakes were AP Lockheed as Harris were agents for them.

Wheels were Marchesini or Dymag

The curved radiators were made by Alan Docking Racing at Silverstone they used to make the rads for F1 cars amongst others

The original alloy fuel tanks were made by a guy based near Gravesend I think...Forgotten his name now

The exhausts made by by Pete Gibson who used to be out near Brentwood and  in 94 were  designed by Dudley Crammond

In 94 the tanks and seat subframes were carbon fibre made in house by a guy called Steve Collins who I think operates somewhere near High Wycombe these days

In 94 the rear of the chassis and top shock mount were changed... you can see in the early photos on the bench to the bare frame/swing arm photo

Also in 94 Sean was using a thumb operated rear brake

there's bound to be more, if i think about it between bouts of alzheimers I will post it on here.

Unfortunately I had loads of stuff from a variety of years and bikes stored at my mothers. My very thoughtful cousin threw it out when he was clearing the garage thinking it was rubbish.

I haven't spoken to him since...lol



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Posted 29 October 2013 - 17:01

............The original alloy fuel tanks were made by a guy based near Gravesend I think...Forgotten his name now....
 
I think that would be John Pearson, he did all the alloy work on the Seeleys.  Both my brother and myself had tanks made by him for diffrent bikes.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 17:21

I do recall when Yamaha let teamsuse the 500negine the Harris was similar to a Rainey bike.

 

I also recall them using a ROC chassis when the Yam one didn't work in 93! 

 

I definitely recall Sean using a Mockett fairing, big dustbin thing!

 

I also remember part of your deal was using Shell unleaded when no one was, and even Yokohama tyres?  When no one else was doing either.



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Posted 29 October 2013 - 17:40

john pearson

thats the guy

thanks for that

 

You are correct on the shell unleaded I'd forgoten that, I think the yokohama and roc thing was after my time.

I finished there at the end of 94, although I remain friendly with the harris brothers and steve bayford.

I still live pretty close to the 2 Steves and the factory and poke my face in there now and again



#48 havachat

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 15:09

also had forgoten the 94 engines were big bang

I must be getting old



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Posted 30 October 2013 - 15:34

Great stuff all this

 

To think it was all made not far from me in Stevenage!

 

I seem to remember Sean using one of those huge Mockett fairings?

 

And also didn't they copy their later body work from scrap Cagiva bits they found in a bin!

 

He certainly did use a Mockett fairing and seat, I worked on it with  Mockett. In spite of the fact that it gave them several KPH they stopped using it as it was a bit tricky to assemble apparently.



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Posted 30 October 2013 - 16:55

must have been 93 or 95 onwards

i wasn't there when the mocket fairing was used