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#1 D.M.N.

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:27

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#2 Radion

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:29

:o



#3 Diablobb81

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:29

Ouch. Another recovery drive for Kimi.

 

Queue the Kimi-fanatics hating on Lotus.



#4 fatd

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:30

Please not a bad news, after a quite encouraging qualifying in a long while :(

#5 dau

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:31

I'd lock the Kimi/Lotus thread right about....now.



#6 Wander

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:33

Yeah, this is pretty bad.



#7 Cyanide

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:34

They can disqualify him for this easily. 



#8 Disgrace

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:34

The challenge from all of Vettel's title rivals hasn't just faded, it has completely collapsed in a collective heap of scrap.



#9 dau

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:35

Could be just a broken floor though, doesn't necessarily have to be instant DSQ.



#10 Viryfan

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:35

Same story as Grosjean in Hungary?



#11 Miggeex

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:36

It's a guaranteed disqualification.



#12 Radion

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:36

So basiically kimi drove with an illegal car?!

 

Sh't.



#13 Cool Beans

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:36

Could just be a broken support thingy on it and that's why it flexes.. No penalty yet.



#14 DevilsCry

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:37

Common sense says Lotus didn't do this intentionally. But expect this thread to burst into anti Lotus one nonetheless. A strong contender to win the race fades away. Now only Webber can challenge Vettel for victory.



#15 DaddyCool

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:37

Any precedent on this? 



#16 motorhead

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:38

Permane´s revenge?



#17 SilentKiller

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:41

Permane´s revenge?

:rotfl:



#18 Amz964

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:41

Didnt Grosjean have exactly the same problem in Hungary but because they tested Kimi's car he got away with it so hopefully he just hit a curb and damaged the struts



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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:42

Common sense says Lotus didn't do this intentionally. But expect this thread to burst into anti Lotus one nonetheless. A strong contender to win the race fades away. Now only Webber can challenge Vettel for victory.

 

Yeah. Lotus need the WCC money.



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#20 SamH123

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:42

Sounds like Hungary again, there are some aggressive curbs round Abu Dhabi



#21 SilentKiller

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:43

Ya Gro had the same problem a few races ago but it was later found out to be unintentional....hoping it is the same for Kimi.



#22 Cyanide

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:43

Raikkonen was summoned to see the stewards at 8.15 local time (20 or so mins ago) after his Lotus failed front floor checks



#23 dau

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:44

A broken floor would have been spotted by Jo Bauer. I'm sure that's the first thing they check before reporting suspicion of an illegal component, especially in the case of flexibility. 

CFRP failure often isn't that easy to spot. You can easily have parts that look absolutely fine from the outside and still have delaminated inside, affecting strength and stiffness.


Edited by dau, 02 November 2013 - 16:45.


#24 Radion

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:47

Does Jo Bauer randomly pick cars to test these kind of things? Because the report states that only car number 07 and 11 were tested. Or do all cars have to go through these kind of tests?


Edited by Radion, 02 November 2013 - 16:49.


#25 artista

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:48

Does Jo Bauer randomly pick cars to test these kind of things? Because the report states that only car number 07 and 11 were tested. Or are all cars being tested the same way?

some things are done randomly to just a few cars



#26 Cool Beans

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:51

Does Jo Bauer randomly pick cars to test these kind of things? Because the report states that only car number 07 and 11 were tested. Or do all cars have to go through these kind of tests?

With a million different parts on the cars they can't check all 20 for everything, so instead they do random spot checks for a few parts on a few cars. 



#27 MikeV1987

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:53

Lotus brings Raikkonen a shorter wheelbase car and fails scrutineering, could not happen at a worse time. Conspiracy theorists are going to go ape s**t now.


Edited by MikeV1987, 02 November 2013 - 16:54.


#28 kimister

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:56

That's just perfect  :mad:  All kimi needed was a penalty that will throw him  at the end of the grid after all hard working  :down:



#29 Cyanide

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:58

If found guilty of breaching Article 3.17.5 Kimi will start from back of the grid, or as Vettel did here last year, from the pit lane #ssn



#30 Cool Beans

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:59

Since the part has passed inspections before I doubt he'll get a penalty but if he does, will it be a complete DQ or just dropped places?

 

Edit: Mindreader Cyanide


Edited by Cool Beans, 02 November 2013 - 17:00.


#31 MikeV1987

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:59

Well, Kimi should be pretty entertaining tomorrow.



#32 bogi

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 16:59

Permane: ''“Jo, get out of the f***ing way”''



#33 SkorbiF1

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:02

DQ or no penalty, should be the only options.



#34 f1supreme

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:03

Permane´s revenge?

ever since he announced he was leaving, things have not gone well for him, whereas roman looks in good form, after being a liability for so long.

#35 motorhead

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:04

What was Permane´s twitter account  ;)



#36 Shiroo

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:05

"floot deflection test"

And here I thought that they will take a look at cars going offtrack.

I believe it maybe the same thing, that during a lap he damaged it and it deflect more thanks to that



#37 Toffeli

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:06

"floot deflection test"

And here I thought that they will take a look at cars going offtrack.

I believe it maybe the same thing, that during a lap he damaged it and it deflect more thanks to that

Same.  :well: 



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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:06

I'd lock the Kimi/Lotus thread right about....now.

I simply agree.



#39 kimister

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:08

Please no penalty   :(



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#40 Zava

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:08

according t Alburaq, the different wheelbase setups have different tea tray support:

 

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(top is short) so it seems unlikely that Grosjean's floor passing the test will cut it...



#41 EthanM

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:08

DQ or no penalty, should be the only options.

technically he can get disqualified (Vettel and Hamilton both got disqualified from quali last year in AD and Spain) but still be allowed to take part in the race [so long as they remedy the illegal part obviously]. He will just have to start last (or from the pitlane if Lotus chooses to break park ferme and change the car setup)


Edited by EthanM, 02 November 2013 - 17:09.


#42 Baddoer

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:08

OMG, Lotus, that is the most clever way to screw up 2nd in WCC!



#43 V3TT3L

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:09

SAB  :eek: TEUR !!!



#44 Shiroo

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:12

I said, keep LWB and it would be fine, they would compare both of them and everything wouldk be fine. Meh



#45 SkorbiF1

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:15

technically he can get disqualified (Vettel and Hamilton both got disqualified from quali last year in AD and Spain) but still be allowed to take part in the race [so long as they remedy the illegal part obviously]. He will just have to start last (or from the pitlane if Lotus chooses to break park ferme and change the car setup)

Yea, that's what I meant. DQ in qualifying, but allowed to start when fixed.



#46 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:20

Anyone who thinks Lotus would sabotage Kimi is ridiculous. Yes, it would save them bonus money but cost th WCC money which is more important.

#47 Watkins74

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:21

 

Raikkonen was summoned to see the stewards at 8.15 local time (20 or so mins ago) after his Lotus failed front floor checks

 

 

What is Kimi supposed to say? "WhenIputthecartogetheritseemedfine"



#48 Radion

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:24

What is Kimi supposed to say? "WhenIputthecartogetheritseemedfine"

Maybe they'll ask him whether or not he felt a hit or something while driving over a curb?!



#49 KingTiger

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:27

This needs to be a DQ. F1 teams have gone way too long without following the rulebook. 



#50 kimister

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:28

Bianca Leppert ‏@janci1612 Floor on Kimis car didn't manage the FIA check. Same like Grosjean in Hungary. Permane says damage caused of incident in corner 3 with 25g.

 

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