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#1 camberley

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 23:26

Nov.4 (GMM) Adrian Newey has admitted he once came close to agreeing to work for Ferrari.

 

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And he told Italian television Sky: "Years ago I had the opportunity to go to Ferrari, but I had small children at school (in Britain) and so it was not an easy decision.

 

"But I think that being part of Ferrari, as an engineer, is the same sort of dream as it is for a driver. Unfortunately it never really came to fruition.

 

"I believe that Red Bull will be my last team, but to leave and start from scratch would not be so tragic," La Gazzetta dello Sport quotes Newey as saying.

 

 

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#2 George Costanza

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 23:47

How long ago would have this happened? After Ross Brawn left?



#3 EthanM

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 00:06

There was a rumor that back in 2005 Newey's options were Red Bull or Ferrari, he had offers from both (to replace Rory Byrne at Ferrari after working alongside him for 2006, not Ross, Ross is irrelevant to what Newey does) he chose RB cause he didn't want to uproot his family and move them to Italy



#4 scheivlak

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 00:17

Ah, the spilled milk thread   ;)

 

Ferrari would love to lure Newey away – and he confirms that last year he rejected their latest approach. "They're a great team and just like many drivers end up succumbing to Ferrari's romance, engineers aren't completely callous. But I won't be going to Ferrari. One reason is that my family [with four children] is in England. And being involved with Red Bull from the start has been hugely rewarding. I have no desire to work for anyone else in F1."  http://www.theguardi...ll-ayrton-senna


Edited by scheivlak, 05 November 2013 - 00:17.


#5 Henri Greuter

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:18

Newey has been close to working for Ferrari before, be it for `something entirely different`.
He was March's engineer allocated to the Truesports CART team in 1985 and when there was talk about Truesport becoming the CART partner for Ferrari the Truesports people persuaded Newey to stay with them and work on the design of the intended Ferrari Indycar. Something that he refused by and instead he went over to Team Kraco to become the March reperesentative/engineer for Michael Andretti.
A Ferrari indycar has been built bun never ran in anger, something that makes you wonder what could have happened.
But the thought of an Adrian Newey designed Ferrari Indycar, built and actually raced at the Speedway....

Henri

Edited by Henri Greuter, 05 November 2013 - 08:19.


#6 F1ultimate

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:57

As much as drivers dream about driving for Ferrari, Ferrari are day dreaming about Newey working for them. This latest interview with Newey clearly smash their dreams. On the positive note, he mentions that Red Bull will be his last team. If he won't move to Ferrari than LdM would be happy to see Newey leave the sport for good.  :p

 

Americas Cup would suit him love a glove. He's an aerodynamics specialist and sailing is all about the flow of air and water. He could do wonders for the British Americas Cup team.



#7 PNSD

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 09:27

Wasn't the issue that Ferrari did not want to give Newey a UK based office as they did with John Barnard...



#8 Bloggsworth

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 09:30

As much as drivers dream about driving for Ferrari, Ferrari are day dreaming about Newey working for them. This latest interview with Newey clearly smash their dreams. On the positive note, he mentions that Red Bull will be his last team. If he won't move to Ferrari than LdM would be happy to see Newey leave the sport for good.  :p

 

Americas Cup would suit him love a glove. He's an aerodynamics specialist and sailing is all about the flow of air and water. He could do wonders for the British Americas Cup team.

 

Only if he brought £100,000,000 with him...



#9 Raziel

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 09:36

Oh cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it already! After all these years, some Ferrari fans are still dreaming about Newey, it´s so pathetic! He never worked for Ferrari and he never will, deal with it, don't cry over spilled milk for God's sake :rolleyes: :well: :cat:



#10 F1ultimate

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 10:02

Only if he brought £100,000,000 with him...

 

He could always work for team Oracle. Larry Ellison has pockets deep as Mariana trench. 



#11 Melchiot

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 10:15

Oh cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it already! After all these years, some Ferrari fans are still dreaming about Newey, it´s so pathetic! He never worked for Ferrari and he never will, deal with it, don't cry over spilled milk for God's sake :rolleyes: :well: :cat:

 

 

The article points out that Newey was close to sign a deal with ferrari but refused to because his kids were still in school.

I dont see anyone crying over Newey not joining Ferrari....overreact too much?



#12 GT Racing Online Magazine

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 10:22

It's quite easy to calculate I think - Newey's daughters Imogen and Hannah are around 16-17, so he is talking something like 10 years back probably, which would be around the Red Bull switch.



#13 Miggeex

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 10:26

And many don't seem to see that even if Newey would go to Ferrari right now, it could take who knows how many seasons, until his work would really start to stand out. Takes years to build the right team and atmosphere around you + I bet the technology isn't the same as Red Bull has so everything would need to be learned again. And by then he's probably retired already.

 

It's more about catching the new talent for designing at the moment.



#14 ArkZ

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:19

Why have you (Newey) never gone to Ferrari? 
“I guess it’s a whole combination of reasons. Generally, it’s been timing to be honest. Back in the mid-90s, I had young children at the time and I didn’t completely feel comfortable trying to move my family to Italy when the kids were established at school in the UK. More recently, when I felt in my latter days at McLaren that I was going a bit stale, I felt I needed a new challenge. While the Ferrari job would have been a challenge, it was still an established team, where Ross [Brawn] had been for some time with a considerable amount of success. I didn’t fancy stepping into that one.
“I needed a fresh challenge and that was being involved in new team, more or less from the start, and seeing if we can develop it into something that could win races and then go on to win championships. In many ways, it was trying to finish off unfinished business from the Leyton House days. When I first came into F1 with Leyton House, having been at March already, the team came in very strongly given our size, which was tiny. We had decent results, a few podiums here and there, and we were going in a very positive direction, but unfortunately, we lost our funding. If you lose that, you’re only going one way so I left and joined Williams, which was a great opportunity and the right decision at the time. But it has always wrangled me that we never had the opportunity at Leyton House to prove what we could have been competitive so to have another crack at it with Red Bull has been fantastic.”


#15 Seanspeed

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:23

Pretty please Adrian? 



#16 fabr68

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:45

Right now Ferrari needs a bigger name than Newey.

Her name is Fiorano

#17 john ruston

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 14:23

Why the surprise.

Remember wandering round Ferrari with A N about ten years ago and they had offered him a position about same time as did Stewart when Bobby Rahal was head honcho.

You would be an idiot if you didn't offer him a job if you own/manage a F1 team.

The Red Bull gang are brilliant entrepreneurs making a fortune selling that odd stuff so you expect them to out manoeuvre most of F1 brigade who in turn are the cleverest sports whiz kids.

#18 Raziel

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 15:23

The article points out that Newey was close to sign a deal with ferrari but refused to because his kids were still in school.

I dont see anyone crying over Newey not joining Ferrari....overreact too much?

 

This "story" is really not a story, we already knew that he had "contacts" with Ferrari and how close he was. Words in bold = key words. It all happened ages ago, it´s history, there is no reason to dedicate and to open a whole new topic for this old and unimportant "story".



#19 V3TT3L

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 15:39

I believe internal politics is the main reason Newey doesn't go to Ferrari  :well:

Newey would spend a lot of time and wear out his patience with internal meetings to deal with the internal groups fighting for prestige.

Then there is his former fallen apprentice at McLaren and now arch rival there, Nicolas Tombazis.

Not to mention the samurai there that likes the car designed to his likings.

 

IMO, Newey wants to work for/with Ferrari before he retires from F1 for good.

However I can only see Newey there if moving hand-in-hand with Vettel in the place of Alonso.

Or if RedBull decides to downsize or change something inside RedBull.



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#20 Exb

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 17:30

ArkZ - thanks for that link, great interview with Newey!

Newey seemed to like the challenge of building a team from scratch, his way. Not sure if he has the same desire to go back and try to fit into an established organisation like Ferrari.