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[ExFlagMan]

I thought Bernie preferred medals anyway.

Only if they are gold and go straight into his bank account.

[SophieB]

I think we are well overdue a story from Bernie hinting that the British GP is in jeopardy.

[BlackCat]

good idea. Japan, Australia, USA, Canada and all European Grandes Prix give points. Others do not and participation in those others is voluntary

[chrisj]

I like the idea.

[Clatter]

No, and I wouldn't want to change the pecking order. I'd want to create a blue ribband event where the sport showcases itself to the casual viewer that can't be bothered to watch all the races on a regular basis. And then hopefully a certain portion of that extra audience gets hooked and starts watching the standard races.

Messing around with the format and points won't achieve that.

[Clatter]

Maybe we should have a vertical loop in the middle of the track. The driver who completes the most loops during the race receives the "Mark Webber loop de loop award".

They often say an F1 car generates enough downforce that if turned upside down they could drive on the ceiling. So lets have a tunnel that they have to drive via the ceiling.

[Fastcake]

Ehhhh....why are some tennis events scored differently? Type of surface?

 

It's to do with the field they are meant to attract. Higher ranked events have mandatory participation of the top players (well they're at least meant to), as well as a larger amount of players, so it's considered more of an achievement to win them. Tennis players only compete in a small number of events each season, and as you have to pay more and invest in better facilities to hold the bigger events, the tour gives you more ranking points to help encourage the crowd-drawing players to turn up.

 

I think we are well overdue a story from Bernie hinting that the British GP is in jeopardy.

In time, but first the Australian GP will be at risk

[fabr68]

If Bernie would have forced Pirelli to keep the 2013 original tires, we would likely have a championship decider at Brazil.

Barking at the wrong tree again. Point system is fine

[Tenmantaylor]

Great idea for Bernie to charge extra money to GP hosts for the 'prestige' events.

[Ross Stonefeld]

 

It's to do with the field they are meant to attract. Higher ranked events have mandatory participation of the top players (well they're at least meant to), as well as a larger amount of players, so it's considered more of an achievement to win them. Tennis players only compete in a small number of events each season, and as you have to pay more and invest in better facilities to hold the bigger events, the tour gives you more ranking points to help encourage the crowd-drawing players to turn up.

 

 

So that's more to do with seeding/rankings rather than the event itself? 

 

Ie all F1 events would score the same since everyone has shown up for them. 

[gm914]

This is just Bernie thinking aloud how he can scavenge more money from race-hosting governments.

 

"Now if you upgrade to our 'Platinum Package for only $75m more, we can literally make it rain, and award the chamionship on the spot. Have you considered roundabouts? Our 'Roundabout Package is very popular with the Third-World-set nowadays. Let's talk medallions..."

[mlsnoopy]

What happened with the gold medals?

Is it Tennis season already?

Next year he will want the Soccer points model

 

What is soccer?

[Tsarwash]

Association Football, called so by the English Authorities to distinguish it from Rugby Football a long time ago. Us English people might not use the term, but it is the correct term. 

[7MGTEsup]

What is soccer?

 

The opposite of hand egg.

[redreni]

Messing around with the format and points won't achieve that.

 

Not by itself, no, but if one wanted to establish a blue ribband event (and perhaps you don't) one would have to distinguish it very clearly from every other event on the calendar. Different timings (primetime in western Europe, perhaps, subject to TV coverage), different pre-race procedure (formal presentation of teams and drivers to the fans), perhaps a cash prize for the winner, different format, more points. If done right, and if given time to bed in, the combination of all these things could contribute to the creation of an event that, in time, would be viewed by the teams, drivers and fans as standing above the others, like the Indy 500 or Daytona or Le Mans or Bathurst.

 

I'm not necessarily lobbying for this to be done, but I am saying this is what would have to be done, in my view, before it would make sense to have different races awarding different amounts of points. It would be stupid if an event was made a double points round just because it's been on the F1 calendar a long time, and it would be even more of a cheap gimmick to make an event a quadruple points round just because it's the last race and Bernie wants to keep the title race interesting. But if somebody was leading the championship by 95 points going into the last race and then had a DNF and lost the title, any fool would be able to see that the best man (and machine combination) had lost.

Edited by redreni, 06 November 2013 - 16:50.

[fabr68]

What is soccer?

google is your friend

[Clatter]

Not by itself, no, but if one wanted to establish a blue ribband event (and perhaps you don't) one would have to distinguish it very clearly from every other event on the calendar. Different timings (primetime in western Europe, perhaps, subject to TV coverage), different pre-race procedure (formal presentation of teams and drivers to the fans), perhaps a cash prize for the winner, different format, more points. If done right, and if given time to bed in, the combination of all these things could contribute to the creation of an event that, in time, would be viewed by the teams, drivers and fans as standing above the others, like the Indy 500 or Daytona or Le Mans or Bathurst.

 

I'm not necessarily lobbying for this to be done, but I am saying this is what would have to be done, in my view, before it would make sense to have different races awarding different amounts of points. It would be stupid if an event was made a double points round just because it's been on the F1 calendar a long time, and it would be even more of a cheap gimmick to make an event a quadruple points round just because it's the last race and Bernie wants to keep the title race interesting. But if somebody was leading the championship by 95 points going into the last race and then had a DNF and lost the title, any fool would be able to see that the best man (and machine combination) had lost.

F1 has it's blue riband event already. 

[redreni]

F1 has it's blue riband event already. 

 

Not in the sense I'm thinking of it doesn't. But I'm interested to know which event you mean? Monaco? Spa? Monza?

[dau]

Come on, why is anyone even taking this seriously? It's just Bernie, trying to keep F1 in the news. He's been doing this for years decades centuries.

[R Soul]

Most of us know that Ecclestone is just being a troll as usual, but there's a danger that someone will take him seriously.

[Afterburner]

This would be good fun if F1 was Top Gear... but it isn't.

[Murl]

What would be even more fun I think would be if nobody knew the points each race was worth. Instead Bernie could hold a press conference say a week after the last Grand Prix of the season and announce what points each race worth for that year. Wouldn't that be fun? The championship would stay alive even after it was over

 

Like they do in "who's line is it anyway" random and arbitrary points allocated based on whim.

[undersquare]

Haha, guess how much extra it would cost,say, Bahrain to be a 50-point race....

[DutchQuicksilver]

Silly bubble by Bernie, not going to happen.

[stobiesaur]

What a stupid idea.  It would certainly make the countries & event promoters of the 25 pt races feel good about themselves having LESS important races 

[George Costanza]

If Bernie would have forced Pirelli to keep the 2013 original tires, we would likely have a championship decider at Brazil.

Barking at the wrong tree again. Point system is fine

 

 

Not too sure about that. Ferrari simply aren't fast enough. And Fernando wasn't as consistent as he was in 2012.

[ClubmanGT]

I'm in favour of this. Classic circuits such as Spa, Monza, Silverstone and the season finale should be worth double points but the races should also be longer.

 

All other rounds should be worth the same value and length as they are now. 

[f1RacingForever]

He just want's to be able to easily manipulate the results to keep the championship battles going as long as possible. No thanks. Too fake for me. Given the current situation in F1, the last thing i want to see are races becoming even more artificial than they already are.

[Kingshark]

Just when I think that Bernie cannot get any more ridiculous, he does not fail to amaze me.

[Ellios]

I'd rather he get lost in a revolving door