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#1 Kimione

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:02

Kimi's 2013 season is officially over. He is going to back surgery on Thursday 14th of November. After that he needs to rest at least 4 weeks. So he is forced to skip GPs in USA and Brazil..

 

 

http://www.ts.fi/moo...aikkosen kauden


Edited by Kimione, 10 November 2013 - 08:03.


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#2 johnnyw

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:05

Such a shame :(

 

Btw there is actually english version of the article : http://www.ts.fi/moo...up Kimis season



#3 pacificquay

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:11

Common sense to get this out of the way now so he's fully fit ahead of next season



#4 jedioriginal

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:17

Very wise decision.Better to do it now than wait till after the season.

#5 bourbon

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:26

By Hekki, so I'm going to assume it is legit.  He has to put his back first of course. 

 

I haven't heard that Lotus has paid up, so it is possible he wasn't going to finish the season anyway. 

 

In any case, here's to a rapid recovery!

 

For my part, I'm glad the whole Lotus ship has sailed.  Goodbye Lotus - You will not be missed.  :wave:


Edited by bourbon, 10 November 2013 - 08:27.


#6 jstrains

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:26

Maybe Alonso will skip as well...



#7 hello86

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:26

Shit end to a season which started so well. I think that if he was paid he would have delayed this surgery (dont believe that it suddenly got that bad)

#8 dreamer

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:28

I think this decision is the best for all parts involved.



#9 Cyanide

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:29

Wow, this news woke me up better than my inefficient coffee. 



#10 boldhakka

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:33

Shit end to a season which started so well. I think that if he was paid he would have delayed this surgery (dont believe that it suddenly got that bad)

 

True that. Even if the intentions are benign, this kills many birds with one stone:

 

1. Gets to make real on his threat to not drive unless he's paid.

2. This will probably ensure that Lotus has less money to compete with in 2014 against Ferrari.

3. If he gets a "doctor's note", Lotus will be unable to stick him with a breach of contract, especially if they originally messed up his seat and inflammed the old injury in the first place. 

 

Personally, I'm also happy that Davide will get a chance to drive (if he does get the seat). 



#11 MustangSally

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:40

Asked whether he would be sending Kimi a 'Get Well Soon' card, Eric Boullier replied: "We have drawn up a posting schedule with Kimi's management and talks are progressing. But we expect to send him a card by next Tuesday."

#12 sopa

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:44

It reminds me a bit of when Villeneuve had a "convenient health problem" in 2006 after which he was sidelined and Kubica was brought it. Certainly the timing is intriguing based on recent events.



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:47

It reminds me a bit of when Villeneuve had a "convenient health problem" in 2006 after which he was sidelined and Kubica was brought it. Certainly the timing is intriguing based on recent events.

 

I guess the surgery could have waited 3 or 4 more weeks until the season was over. But probably they didn't want to continue this Lotus saga any longer, which suggests to me that the financial dilemma has not been sorted out. 



#14 Zoetrope

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:55

Sorry for Kimi fans (the man himself probably cares only about 2014). But I can't wait to see Valsecchi. I just hope the surgery goes smooth!



#15 Antonov

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:55

this sucks. 



#16 Gorma

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:58

I guess the surgery could have waited 3 or 4 more weeks until the season was over. But probably they didn't want to continue this Lotus saga any longer, which suggests to me that the financial dilemma has not been sorted out. 

The article says that the back pain got worse after Abu Dhabi and he hasn't been able to sleep without painkillers. If he had waited 3-4 weeks he would only have two three weeks to prepare for january tests. 



#17 Shiroo

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:00

I wonder who will be in the seat for the last 2 races.
Valsecchi (I believe he deserves it) or they will already bring in their new driver.



#18 Cyanide

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:03

I wonder who will be in the seat for the last 2 races.
Valsecchi (I believe he deserves it) or they will already bring in their new driver.

 

Honestly I don't have a good feeling about Valsecchi. Smells like a d'Ambrosio case back in Monza 2012. 

 

They should take the risk of putting Hulk in there. Might not be a wise move from his perspective, without testing the car first, he could be in the same situation as Fisichella in a Ferrari back in 2009. But it's a much better option and a higher chance for Lotus to chase 2nd in WCC and for Hulk to get the seat for 2014 perhaps. 



#19 jrg19

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:07

It has to be Valsecchi, which will probably gift 2nd place in the constructors to Mercedes.



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#20 Miggeex

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:08

I wonder who will be in the seat for the last 2 races.
Valsecchi (I believe he deserves it) or they will already bring in their new driver.

 

Will be a difficult for Valsecchi to bring points though. Just top 15 would be impressive already when thinking that he has no feel to that car at all.

 

But right decision for Kimi so he can start working out for 2014 almost right after this season.



#21 muramasa

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:13

some people should check about spinal injury and how it can end up before bashing Kimi.

 

True this might be part of some sort of tactics, who knows but i dont believe so. You dont take a surgery, back surgery of all things, lightly. He needs to recover and be fit by next Feb so there's not much time left really.



#22 nosecone

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:14

Hulkenberg cancelled his contract with Sauber earlier this year... What does this mean for the Lotus seat in the last 2 races?



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:20

Hulkenberg cancelled his contract with Sauber earlier this year... What does this mean for the Lotus seat in the last 2 races?

Hülk is a free agent, theoretically, he could be the one replacing kimi.

I read somewhere though, that sauber still is an option for Hülk for next year. So he might as well want to finish the seson on a high with them instead of going to lotus without knowing the car and the financial situation of lotus regarding their future...

 

It's going to be valsecchi.


Edited by Radion, 10 November 2013 - 09:21.


#24 krobinson

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:23

some people should check about spinal injury and how it can end up before bashing Kimi.

 

True this might be part of some sort of tactics, who knows but i dont believe so. You dont take a surgery, back surgery of all things, lightly. He needs to recover and be fit by next Feb so there's not much time left really.

The scary thing is that some people would probably believe that he have the surgery just to get out of his contract :lol: .

 

A surgery is always something to be concerned about and this will be a sad end to his Lotus career :(



#25 Lights

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:24

It reminds me a bit of when Villeneuve had a "convenient health problem" in 2006 after which he was sidelined and Kubica was brought it. Certainly the timing is intriguing based on recent events.

 

Thought about the same thing. Very convenient. 



#26 Baddoer

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:26

Will he able to race next year?



#27 x600

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:43

Will he able to race next year?

Of yourse he will. It's a fake story, like Villeneuves headache (someone mentioned it already). Maybe he was thrown out by Lotus, when they realised that he crashed on purpose.



#28 SpaMaster

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:44

It looks like the Saturday midnight deadline was not met. So much for that Ijaz guy's statements.

 

I just wanted to reiterate one point. This is not a simple case of not being able to pay Kimi.  Kimi's gripe has seemed to how he has been taken for a ride by the Lotus management - sort of deceptive and false promises. For many Lotus followers this is not new. We have seen how they confirmed that the Infinity deal was done long time back and then they said Kimi's salary was also paid. Yet, it has emerged until the last Abu Dhabi weekend, Kimi was paying for his flights and cabs himself. This is a guy who put his own money for the whole of his second year in WRC, so please stop saying he quit F1 just so that he could take all of Ferrari's money.



#29 Zava

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:45

surely some stuff has been said to him in maranello on thursday, other than "hi Kimi", I mean stuff like "we'd be happy if we could be third in the constructors, Kimi", then some pats on the back... :p

 

anyway, story is fishy to me, and the farewell is not worthy to the (almost) 2 years spent here...

 

 

"ferrari 2014 - the home of old men with back pain"



#30 jedioriginal

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:49

The surgery was coming anyway after the season.
Why should he wait,now he has few more weeks to get it better after surgery. He has not been payed anyway so IMO better to do it now, and get ready to winter testing.

Edited by jedioriginal, 10 November 2013 - 11:49.


#31 Adelaide

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:51

Of yourse he will. It's a fake story, like Villeneuves headache (someone mentioned it already). Maybe he was thrown out by Lotus, when they realised that he crashed on purpose.


You seriously think the back pain / surgery story is fake? Sure the timing may have been brought forward but I don't think Kimi would lie about something like this. His ongoing back issues are well documented after all.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:52

 

"ferrari 2014 - the home of old men with back pain"

 

Maybe Ferrari get a loyal customer discount with two cases of backissues? Something fishy about both drivers maybe skipping the rest of the season....

 

Can a Kimi vs Fernando thread be opened? They already started competing in backpains, who does it better? Is Kimi getting an unfair advantage as he started before Fred? Whos "pitstop" is faster?


Edited by Module, 10 November 2013 - 09:56.


#33 Jackmancer

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:59

Probably best for both. Kimi lost motivation, and this might save Lotus a few millions anyway.



#34 Gorma

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:07

Probably best for both. Kimi lost motivation, and this might save Lotus a few millions anyway.

Even his back is unmotivated :D



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:09

Sad to hear, but if he can't sleep without meds it is understandable.

And the point is to be as fit as possible when the next season tests begin.
The article says it will take 4 weeks from the surgery to be allowed to move (?), anyone who has the experience being immobile from bone or joint related surgery knows how fast the muscles and flexibility will degenerate. That four weeks is the lay down time from the surgery, then the rehab begins, which depending from the surgery, will take weeks.
How big the surgery is, both in time and amount of repair, doesn't go hand in hand with how long you have to rehab.
Anyone who has had ACL surgery can tell you that.

This back issue was there before the pay issue, and then it got worse in Singapore. Had it not been this pay issue no one would question this move. And the pay issue is all down to the Genii/Lotus.

The back has to be repaired, had he been paid or not. Now we have to hope the surgery is successful.

Now, let us see what Lotus will do with their statements.
Will they launch full shitstorm at a man who is not present do defend himself in coming weeks?

Edited by Oldie, 10 November 2013 - 10:10.


#36 Nemo1965

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:12

I think that even Kimi doesn't know the truth. He has this back problem. Lotus have not payed him. He probably loathes the idea of driving another race for them. In that view, the operation should take place NOW. One could say that the circumstances prime him into this decision.

 

For the rest, I agree with the 'convenient' commetns. 



#37 Risil

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:14

If Lotus sign up Hulkenburg, who could get the call from Sauber? Frijns?

 

With Grosjean driving like he is I don't think Lotus will miss Kimi.


Edited by Risil, 10 November 2013 - 10:17.


#38 RosannaG

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:16

I'll miss him in Austin and Interlagos but it's a wise decision. The sooner the better. I wish him a full recovery. :up:

 

I can't wait to see him back at Ferrari.  :p



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:16

Sad to hear, but if he can't sleep without meds it is understandable.

And the point is to be as fit as possible when the next season tests begin.
The article says it will take 4 weeks from the surgery to be allowed to move (?), anyone who has the experience being immobile from bone or joint related surgery knows how fast the muscles and flexibility will degenerate. That four weeks is the lay down time from the surgery, then the rehab begins, which depending from the surgery, will take weeks.
How big the surgery is, both in time and amount of repair, doesn't go hand in hand with how long you have to rehab.
Anyone who has had ACL surgery can tell you that.

This back issue was there before the pay issue, and then it got worse in Singapore. Had it not been this pay issue no one would question this move. And the pay issue is all down to the Genii/Lotus.

The back has to be repaired, had he been paid or not. Now we have to hope the surgery is successful.

Now, let us see what Lotus will do with their statements.
Will they launch full shitstorm at a man who is not present do defend himself in coming weeks?

 

I would say its imminent, so expect it around 2017 because shitstorms are not the work of a moment.



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#40 spaceace1977

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:21

what about kovalainen replacing kimi?

 

he is the only experienced (race winning) driver available with numerous fp1 outings this year..



#41 Nemo1965

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:23

I think, indeed, Kovalinen would be the best idea.



#42 as65p

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:25

Well, let's look at it this way: I don't believe he'd even have thought about doing the surgery now (instead of between seasons) if he were not to leave Lotus at the end of the year.



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:27

what about kovalainen replacing kimi?

 

he is the only experienced (race winning) driver available with numerous fp1 outings this year..

That would be a good call, he's driven for the team before when they were Renault so might be familiar with some of their people and procedures.



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:30

what about kovalainen replacing kimi?

 

he is the only experienced (race winning) driver available with numerous fp1 outings this year..

He is definitely the best choice at the moment. 



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:34

somehow I doubt they can afford to bring someone else in :p

 

Valsecchi will need to do a lot of running in practice to get up to speed so be interesting to see if he can. (I will lol hard if he beats Grosjean, expect Bullier's head would explode if he did :p)



#46 JeePee

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:36

Kimi doesn't want to go to the FIA Gala.



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:41

If Lotus sign up Hulkenburg, who could get the call from Sauber? Frijns?
 
With Grosjean driving like he is I don't think Lotus will miss Kimi.


Frijns is no longer the team's test driver, Sirotkin has no Superlicence, so - Pedro de la Rosa again? I can't see Lotus using anyone but Valsecchi as a substitute, though.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:45

somehow I doubt they can afford to bring someone else in :p

 

Valsecchi will need to do a lot of running in practice to get up to speed so be interesting to see if he can. (I will lol hard if he beats Grosjean, expect Bullier's head would explode if he did :p)

 

What about Mansoor Ijaz' brother, Mujeeb, stepping in? He is said to hold a land speed record at Bonneville in a battery car. This would be a nice opportunity for Lotus to work closely with their new technology partners.


Edited by MustangSally, 10 November 2013 - 10:46.


#49 Boxerevo

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:45

Maybe Alonso will skip as well...

Lol,if even the drivers "don't" want  to race,imagine my motivation to continue and watch those races.



#50 jonpollak

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:48

Spare a thought for Sith.
He's flying out to Austin from OZ to see his favourite driver....

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