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#101 Jvr

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 13:20

Alan Baldwin also had this to say, which has a few implications, depending on how straight a bat you choose to think Alan is playing with here:
@alanbaldwinf1: Was Kimi sitting comfortably for his seat fitting at Ferrari on Thursday, I wonder?


I think rather stupid thing to say from Alan . After the surgery there would not have been any possibility to even have the fitting in month or two so better to have it done and get under the knife.

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#102 caccamolle

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 13:22

Back surgery !  well, good job Ferrari again.  Chances are slim to say the least that he will be back at 100%.  Very rare with back surgery.  I do hope though that whatever the aftermath of surgery it will not be too bad as far as racing is concerned, that is the only hope.



#103 OvDrone

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 13:25

What a disappointing end of the season for the dude. Shenanigans.



#104 sergeym

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 13:25

Back surgery !  well, good job Ferrari again.  Chances are slim to say the least that he will be back at 100%.  Very rare with back surgery.  I do hope though that whatever the aftermath of surgery it will not be too bad as far as racing is concerned, that is the only hope.

 

I don't think it will be major back surgery as his recovery period is stated to be just 4 weeks. Anyway, Kimi was competitive even with his back issues.



#105 F1ultimate

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 13:27

Back surgery !  well, good job Ferrari again.  Chances are slim to say the least that he will be back at 100%.  Very rare with back surgery. 

 

F1 drivers have access to doctors that us other mortals have zero chances of getting treated by. Who would have thought that Massa would be back ricing or that Maria De Villota would even survive her accident in the short term. I'm sure Kimi, his management and even Ferrari have assessed the risks several weeks, if not a few months ago.



#106 Gorma

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 13:29

Back surgery !  well, good job Ferrari again.  Chances are slim to say the least that he will be back at 100%.  Very rare with back surgery.  I do hope though that whatever the aftermath of surgery it will not be too bad as far as racing is concerned, that is the only hope.

Kimi had back surgery in 2006 and in 2010 and he came back fine.


Edited by Gorma, 10 November 2013 - 13:32.


#107 SophieB

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 13:34

Boullier says Räikkönen phoned yesterday night to tell  (according to Benson)
 
edit: Benson does not specify whom Räikkönen phoned


I think he is definitely saying Raikkonen called last night:

@andrewbensonf1: Just spoken briefly to Lotus team boss Eric Boullier. He confirmed Kimi Raikkonen phoned last night to say missing last 2 GPs with bad back

#108 quidam

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 13:35

 

Andrew Benson ‏@andrewbensonf1

Just spoken briefly to Lotus team boss Eric Boullier. He confirmed Kimi Raikkonen phoned last night to say missing last 2 GPs with bad back

 

Lotus has 2 days to find another driver for Austin. Valsecchi is ready with his seat + passport, ticket etc...



#109 Disgrace

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 13:41

This is the dreaded situation where a young driver gets parachuted into a drive he's not ready for. I can see Valsecchi having trouble getting into Q2.



#110 fabr68

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 13:43

I have my doubts. You cannot fully recover from back surgery in 6 weeks. Unless it is minor and I would say there is risk he would miss pre-season testing

#111 Gorma

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 13:47

I have my doubts. You cannot fully recover from back surgery in 6 weeks. Unless it is minor and I would say there is risk he would miss pre-season testing

What happens in six weeks? Isn't the first test January 28-31 2014?



#112 noikeee

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 13:48

This is the dreaded situation where a young driver gets parachuted into a drive he's not ready for. I can see Valsecchi having trouble getting into Q2.

 

He would never be parachuted into a F1 seat at all otherwise. I never rated Valsecchi at all but I suppose a GP2 champ deserves a F1 race at least, so wouldn't mind if he got the chance.

 

Seems pretty clear to me that Kimi needs the surgery but were he more willing to drive for Lotus he'd be happy to postpone it after the end of the season... sad to see things ending this way.



#113 as65p

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 13:51

I have my doubts. You cannot fully recover from back surgery in 6 weeks. Unless it is minor and I would say there is risk he would miss pre-season testing

 

You know what will happen the next years, don't you? Hundreds of posts stating "he was never the same after..." one way or another. Again.

 

 ;)



#114 kismet

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 13:55

Isn't this exactly what the third drivers are for? I understand such a short notice isn't ideal for anyone's F1 debut but, frankly, that's the way the cookie crumbles when you go with a rookie as your back-up driver.  



#115 V3TT3L

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 14:18

I wish...

 

Davide to COTA

 

Rubinho to Interlagos  :clap:



#116 SealTheDiffuser

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 14:24

haha, "Sorry Lotus, my doctors strongly advised me to have a back surgery to prevent further damage to my health, so I can't race the last to races. Sorry again, and bye, bye."

 

Nice move!... :smoking:  



#117 Bloggsworth

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 14:28

I have my doubts. You cannot fully recover from back surgery in 6 weeks. Unless it is minor and I would say there is risk he would miss pre-season testing


It depends. Is he having a synovial cyst removed, or is he having a laminectomy where two vertebrae are being fused together? He may have some calcified spurs removed, so not much point in guessing.

#118 RealRacing

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 14:33

Hülk is a free agent, theoretically, he could be the one replacing kimi.

I read somewhere though, that sauber still is an option for Hülk for next year. So he might as well want to finish the seson on a high with them instead of going to lotus without knowing the car and the financial situation of lotus regarding their future...

 

It's going to be valsecchi.

+1. Hulk should finish the season with Sauber, showing that he's committed and not a "team switcher". The way things are looking, I'm starting to believe Sauber is his best bet for next season as well.



#119 dau

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 14:34

Isn't this exactly what the third drivers are for? I understand such a short notice isn't ideal for anyone's F1 debut but, frankly, that's the way the cookie crumbles when you go with a rookie as your back-up driver.  

It is, but nowadays, third drivers don't get much driving. I.e. none, basically. Valsecchi has probably spent a lot of time in the simulator and done some straight-line tests for Lotus, but the last time he has driven an F1 car in anger seems to have been at the 2012 Young Driver Test last November.



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#120 santababy

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 14:36

Good choice. I suspect he would have finished the season if all was well between him and Lotus, but even if that broken relationship is the reason to have the surgery now, it's probably for the best. From what I've heard and read of his problem, it's best not to let it go unattended for too long.


Agree, great decision by Kimi.
Enough is enough.
Get well soon.

#121 JensonWDC

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 14:43

Good, now we´ll actually see a driver who WANTS to drive for Lotus :up:



#122 F1ultimate

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 14:46

Good, now we´ll actually see a driver who WANTS to drive for Lotus :up:

 

That's not fair on Kimi.



#123 V3TT3L

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 14:48

Kimi wrote a goodbye letter to Lotus:

 

Dear Lotus,

 

You are a pain in the [choose body part] neck.

So I'm having a surgery to remove you from my life.

 

Regards,

The Iceman


Edited by V3TT3L, 10 November 2013 - 14:49.


#124 Zesus

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 14:49

Good, now we´ll actually see a driver who WANTS to drive for Lotus :up:

 

You mean for free? 90% of them probably would want to do that.



#125 JHSingo

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 14:54

Ah. Back surgery. That old chestnut. Kind of reminds me of Juan Pablo's "tennis" injury from a few years ago.

 

Just call me a terrible cynic.

 

Quite excited to find out who they'll choose. I remember when Glock was sidelined for a couple of races in 2009, Toyota brought in Kobayashi, and he took everyone by surprise. Be good to have a new name mixing it up at the front.



#126 KKKR

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 14:55

Good, now we´ll actually see a driver who WANTS to drive for Lotus :up:

We'll also see Kimi driving for a team that can PAY. Not bad for him :cool:



#127 SpaMaster

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 14:57

Good, now we´ll actually see a driver who WANTS to drive for Lotus :up:

Nope, we will actually see a driver who Lotus WANT to drive for them FREE



#128 pingu666

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 15:36

I doubt ferrari would be happy to pay hi to not race again



#129 Laffite

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 15:42

Kimi doesn't want to go to the FIA Gala.

No need to go as his third WDC place is almost lost now..



#130 Laffite

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 15:45

I wish...

 

Davide to COTA

 

Rubinho to Interlagos  :clap:

Yes, and Vettel to DNF!

 

Oh wait, it's time to work



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 15:51

Good, now we´ll actually see a driver who WANTS to drive for Lotus :up:

 

More likely we'll see a driver who wants to drive for anyone, and who pays for the "privelige".



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 15:51

It was probably planned some time ago already that if Kimi decided not to race for the last races, he'd get the surgery done and rest now while he has no work. (It's not work when you're not getting your paid. Just a very expensive hobby) And then when his work starts again at Ferrari, he's ready and healthy to do and enjoy his job.

 

After all, F1 is work for every driver. I don't think they're working at a local McDonald's during F1 free weeks.


Edited by Miggeex, 10 November 2013 - 15:53.


#133 fabr68

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 16:06

It was probably a mixture of things. Raikkonen back problems are not news. This combined with the posibility of getting nothing out of the two races from Lotus, made it an easy decision to get ready for his new employer.

You are kidding yourself if Lotus will place the third driver there. Raikkonen's empty seat will be Lotus cash cow.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 16:13

It was probably a mixture of things. Raikkonen back problems are not news. This combined with the posibility of getting nothing out of the two races from Lotus, made it an easy decision to get ready for his new employer.

You are kidding yourself if Lotus will place the third driver there. Raikkonen's empty seat will be Lotus cash cow.

 

So who do you think could get the drive?



#135 noikeee

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 16:20

I don't think there's enough time for Lotus to put that seat up for bidding.



#136 EthanM

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 16:21

I think the surgery was just a convenient way for Kimi to not race for free, while also not being in breach of his contractual obligations and hurt his case whenever he tries to get his money via the legal system. And no I am in no way blaming him for it, he probably waited for the pie-in-the-sky money to come from Izaz and co, that was due to land in Lotus' bank account last Tuesday (?) it didnt so he cut his losses.

 

 

Beyond that I doubt Lotus will get much money for the seat for the next two races. It's way too last minute for anybody that doesn't have a superlicense to get one and I doubt there's multiple million waiting on the sidelines for a two race deal. They might make something but not much.


Edited by EthanM, 10 November 2013 - 16:23.


#137 kento11

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 16:24

Good, so let's bring Rubens in, he is popular in the US and co-king with Emmo in Brazil



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 16:27

That would be awesome!!!



#139 sennafan24

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 16:28

Glad Valsecchi is getting a chance, he deserved one for winning GP2 last year.



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#140 EthanM

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 16:30

Glad Valsecchi is getting a chance, he deserved one for winning GP2 last year.

 

is that official or you assume he will?

(just wondering cause afaik it hasn't been announced)



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 16:35

I do want Valsecchi, a solid driver, is the 3rd driver. But that the same time, it would be interesting to see what Rubens actually could do!



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 16:42

I do want Valsecchi, a solid driver, is the 3rd driver. But that the same time, it would be interesting to see what Rubens actually could do!

It would be great to see him get a nice sendoff at Interlagos.

 

Rubens may actually put it in the points, too!



#143 sennafan24

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 16:44

is that official or you assume he will?

(just wondering cause afaik it hasn't been announced)

Nah, my bad.

 

Just assuming at this stage, I think it will be him though, makes the most logical sense.



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 16:45

Could/would Redbull want to pay Lotus to parachute Kvyat, the young Russian, into the seat for some much needed mileage?

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 16:58

Could/would Redbull want to pay Lotus to parachute Kvyat, the young Russian, into the seat for some much needed mileage?

Don't see the point in that.



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 16:58

Could/would Redbull want to pay Lotus to parachute Kvyat, the young Russian, into the seat for some much needed mileage?

I don't think he has a superlicence at the moment.



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 17:02

I don't think he has a superlicence at the moment.

 

Don't winners of GP3 get it automaticly? Or is it just GP2?

 

Edit. Even thou I want to have Valsecci in the seat


Edited by Module, 10 November 2013 - 17:03.


#148 halifaxf1fan

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 17:04

Well, let's look at it this way: I don't believe he'd even have thought about doing the surgery now (instead of between seasons) if he were not to leave Lotus at the end of the year.

 

Also from Ferrari he probably received the advice to have his back tended to sooner than later to be ready for 2014 and to also have it done on 'Lotus time' and not Ferrari's. Ferrari physicians would be very familiar with Kimi's back issue from his 2007-2009 stint with them.

 

This could also be the reason for Ferrari to ask for the early seat fitting as Kimi wouldn't be available to do this post surgery if he decided it was necessary to get it done sooner than later..


Edited by halifaxf1fan, 10 November 2013 - 17:08.


#149 x600

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 17:07

Lotus should hire: http://en.wikipedia..../Simon_Pagenaud That would be awesome.



#150 William Hunt

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 17:18

I don't think there's enough time for Lotus to put that seat up for bidding.

 

They can put it on ebay :)