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#451 DinocoBlue

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 18:57

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The nose kind of reminds me of the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim logo.



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#452 BenF12012

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 09:24

F1 2014 Car Design - Image Source: https://www.facebook...thisisF1updates

 

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#453 DampMongoose

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 10:27

F1 2014 Car Design - Image Source: https://www.facebook...thisisF1updates

 

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Why has that car still got a beam wing? I know they are allowed a monkey seat of a certain size but beam wings are banned for 2014 aren't they?



#454 PayasYouRace

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 10:38

Maybe we should ask This Is F1. I took it to mean that the beam wing is removed.



#455 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 10:41

As clever as some of these solutions are to the proposed regulations it just seems daft to consider all these strange adornments just to tick a box. The car will be no safer with a bulge bow at the bottom with a higher nose above it.

 

Why don't they do away with interpretive worded rules and define a 3D volumetric space in with all bodywork has to sit inside? Seems that this would be the only way to ensure the spirit of the rules (no dangerous high noses) can be enforced whilst limiting extreme or ugly rule bending appendages.



#456 DampMongoose

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 10:47

Maybe we should ask This Is F1. I took it to mean that the beam wing is removed.

 

Yeah I wondered that at first, but it has the same arrow graphic as the new single exhaust and ERS? 



#457 Lazy

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 10:51

As clever as some of these solutions are to the proposed regulations it just seems daft to consider all these strange adornments just to tick a box. The car will be no safer with a bulge bow at the bottom with a higher nose above it.

 

Why don't they do away with interpretive worded rules and define a 3D volumetric space in with all bodywork has to sit inside? Seems that this would be the only way to ensure the spirit of the rules (no dangerous high noses) can be enforced whilst limiting extreme or ugly rule bending appendages.

 

 

3.7.8 Only a single section, which must be open, may be contained within any longitudinal vertical cross section taken parallel to the car centre line forward of a point 150mm ahead of the front wheel centre line, less than 250mm from the car centre line and more than 125mm above the reference plane.
Any cameras or camera housings approved by the FIA in addition to a single inlet aperture for the purpose of driver cooling (such aperture having a maximum projected surface area of 1500mm2 and being situated forward of the section referred to in Article 15.4.3) will be exempt from the above.

I don't think they will be allowed to do that because it would give 2 sections, so they have done what you suggested in effect. The only grey area would be vanity panels and camera housings.



#458 SenorSjon

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 10:52

There are more errors in the drawing.

FW 825 wide and 1.650 high? Erm...



#459 DampMongoose

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:00

There are more errors in the drawing.

FW 825 wide and 1.650 high? Erm...

 

It's a bit odd isn't it?  ThisIsF1's 2014 Car design for those running in an alternative series that's a bit like F1 but with different rules...but to help us out they have shaded some areas on the car to show something, not sure what exactly...



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#460 dau

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:34

The whole front of that car is basically Scarbs' 2014 noses drawing, minus a few lines here and there.

 

 

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#461 Wanderer

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 12:20

There are more errors in the drawing.

FW 825 wide and 1.650 high? Erm...

 

I think the 1.65 mm is supposed to be the minimum gap between FW and track.

The 275 mm is more likely the height.



#462 nosecone

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 12:24

fw is 7.5 cm above the ground reference plane. The maximum height is 27.5cm (above the reference plane). Reference plane = the lowest part of the floor (where the skid block is attached)

3.7
Front bodywork :
3.7.1
All bodywork situated forward of a point lying 330mm behind the front wheel centre line, and
more than 250mm from the car centre line, must be no less than 75mm and no more than
275mm above the reference plane

edit: the 1650mm is the maximum width (ยง3.4.1) which means that the fw is 825mm long at each side of the car

 

edit2: and there is even more wrong in that picture. FiA didn't ban the flow deflector and the sidepod flow deflector, although the initial 2014 rules banned them


Edited by nosecone, 16 December 2013 - 12:32.


#463 4MEN

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 15:06

The whole front of that car is basically Scarbs' 2014 noses drawing, minus a few lines here and there.

 

 

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#464 Wiggy

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 16:24

Caterham crash testing their 2014 car... Looks like a 'modesty panel' is in use, and pops off when it hits the wall...

http://m.gpupdate.ne...a-1-crash-test/

#465 Mox

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 15:27

Caterham crash testing their 2014 car... Looks like a 'modesty panel' is in use, and pops off when it hits the wall...

http://m.gpupdate.ne...a-1-crash-test/

The imprint on the wall also pretty much confirms the Scarbs drawing. 

 



#466 RSNS

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 20:23

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#467 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 07:13

2014 noses could get even uglier - report

 

 

"(In the wind tunnel) we are trying every kind of nose that is in circulation," admitted Force India technical boss Andy Green.

Schmidt concluded: "If that is the case for Force India, then the big teams will be doing even more."

It is likely Lotus' unique, double-tusk solution is causing the most head-scratching among rival teams, with many perhaps not having initially considered the idea of utilising the concept of asymmetry.

"Our spies tell us that some teams are considering 'anteater' noses that do not grow from the middle of the car, but to the left or to the right," said Schmidt.



#468 SenorSjon

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 11:00

It could get worse?! Lol, and Bernie is blaming Vettel for dropping viewers. ;)