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[August]

Brazil will be the last race so far for the Williams-Renault combination. Williams returning to Renault engines two years ago felt so nostalgic, when I was a kid, Williams was winning titles with Renault engines. That's why it was probably my favourite chassis-engine combination, andit was nice to see them returning to Renault engines two years ago, unfortunately that partnership will end after this season.

 

Williams-Mercedes doesn't sound so good. McLaren-Mercedes is one of my favourite combinations very much because of Häkkinen and Räikkönen at McLaren. But given Mercedes feels like a company that needs to make their own chassis, that's what they did already in the 50s. And that's why my favourite of McLaren's engine partners has been Honda, and it's cool to get that combination back in 2015.

 

And I always associate Tyrrell and Lotus strongly with Ford.

 

But what are your favourite chassis-engine combinations?

[RedBullFan]

McLaren Honda

Williams Renault

 

Doesn't get much better than this.

[Francesc]

Brabham-BMW

[RedBullFan]

Oh and

Lancia Ferrari

of course.

[senna da silva]

Lotus 49 - Ford

Eagle - Westlake

[Dolph]

 

Eagle - Westlake

 

+1

[Jackmancer]

BMW Williams. I felt that in the BMW era, the engine made so much difference to Williams. From the Supertec in 1999 with 5th place, to 3rd place in 2000 with BMW, then 2nd in 2002 and 2003. 5th place was not too bad in 2005, but things went bad with the Cosword in 2006, with only an 8th place in the standings.

 

I also think it was a good example of the international sport; German engine in a British car.

 

Edited by Jackmancer, 18 November 2013 - 19:07.

[Wingcommander]

Can i be the funny guy and say Footwork-Porsche?

[Jackmancer]

Can i be the funny guy and say Footwork-Porsche?

 

I was waiting for someone to say Ferrari-Ferrari, but Footwork Porsche sounds a bit like hotdog and caviar, so sure

[August]

I was waiting for someone to say Ferrari-Ferrari, but Footwork Porsche sounds a bit like hotdog and caviar, so sure

 

Or what about BMW Sauber-Ferrari?

[John Player]

McLaren Honda

 

Williams Renault

 

Ferrari Ferrari

[maximilian]

Toleman-Hart!

[Jackmancer]

Or what about BMW Sauber-Ferrari?

 

BMW Sauber Ferrari never was. Or was it?

[Gorma]

BMW Sauber Ferrari never was. Or was it?

Yes it was. 

[August]

BMW Sauber Ferrari never was. Or was it?

 

2010. Sauber had to keep BMW in their name to retain BMW Sauber's FOM money.

[Lemans]

Coloni-Subaru!

[Atreiu]

McLaren Honda

Williams Renault

 

Doesn't get much better than this.

 

McLaren TAG and Lotus Renault turbo!

[jrg19]

HRT - Cosworth 

[Dolph]

Also cool names:

 

Benetton-Playlife

 

Williams-Mecachrome

 

Larrousse-Lamborghini

 

Lambo-Lamborghini

 

Life-Life

Edited by Dolph, 18 November 2013 - 20:45.

[Kingshark]

I'm not including Ferrari or any other manufacturer for obvious reasons, but here's my top 10:

 

1. Williams Renault

2. McLaren Honda

3. McLaren Mercedes

4. Lotus Climax

5. Williams Ford

6. McLaren TAG

7. Lotus Ford

8. Brabham Repco

9. Tyrrell Ford

10. Brabham BMW

[Baddoer]

Jordan-Mugen ?

[FerrariFanInTexas]

Adding to the "little-remembered" teams referenced above:

 

Brabham Yamaha

Jordan Yamaha

Tyrell Yamaha

[Andrew Hope]

Ligier-Matra.

 

[John Player]

Reynard Honda

[jimjimjeroo]

Forti Ford
Minardi Lamborghini

[August]

Also cool names:

 

Benetton-Playlife

 

Williams-Mecachrome

 

Larrousse-Lamborghini

 

Lambo-Lamborghini

 

Life-Life

 

And Sauber-Petronas, Prost-Acer & Minardi-European

[Lemans]

The 'Almost' McLaren Lamborghini.

[ForeverF1]

Cooper Climax

Coventry Climax

[scheivlak]

Ligier-Matra - Andrew beat me to it!

 

Lotus-Pratt&Whitney

 

Lotus-BRM

 

Ferrari-Jaguar 

[George Costanza]

Williams-Honda.

 

Great combination indeed.

Edited by George Costanza, 19 November 2013 - 00:19.

[Lemans]

Siegfried-Roy.

[RedBullFan]

Cooper Climax

 

This, for aesthetics.
 

[DanardiF1]

Lotus-Ford

 

McLaren-Mercedes

 

Williams-Renault

 

And, probably because of when I grew up, but Tyrrell-Yamaha... same for Jordan-Peugeot

[MikeV1987]

BMW Sauber - Ferrari

[DanardiF1]

Cooper-Maserati

[noikeee]

Coloni-Subaru!

 

This. Also,

 

Minardi-Motori Moderni

Zakspeed-Yamaha

Sauber-Mercedes!

 

and for the lulz, the most awkward engine combos

 

Williams-Judd 

McLaren-Peugeot 

[DanardiF1]

This. Also,

 

Minardi-Motori Moderni

Zakspeed-Yamaha

Sauber-Mercedes!

 

and for the lulz, the most awkward engine combos

 

Williams-Judd 

McLaren-Peugeot 

 

You mean Sauber-Ilmor 'concept by Mercedes'

 

and Zakspeed-Zakspeed is infinitely more fail than Yamaha, as bad as they were!

[Henri Greuter]

Not one that made headlines because of their success but dive into thier history and you'll read some funny stories.

Brabham-Alfa Romeo



Henri

[senna da silva]

Honda - Mercedes

(aka Brawn, must've been embarrassing for Honda.)

[PayasYouRace]

Venturi-Lamborghini (Larrousse's chassis in 1992 - sounds a lot faster than it actually was)

 

I was always fond of a Jordan-Hart.

 

Benetton-Ford too.

 

You mean Sauber-Ilmor 'concept by Mercedes'

 

and Zakspeed-Zakspeed is infinitely more fail than Yamaha, as bad as they were!

 

They were officially Sauber-Mercedes in 1994 though.

 

And hey, at least Zakspeed scored 2 points with their own engine (thank you Martin Brundle).

 

 

Adding to the "little-remembered" teams referenced above:

 

Brabham Yamaha

Jordan Yamaha

Tyrell Yamaha

 

Don't forget Arrows-Yamaha

Edited by PayasYouRace, 19 November 2013 - 08:49.

[lustigson]

How about the Ferrari-Jaguar?  

[DampMongoose]

Just to add one that reminds me how F1 cars used to be innovative, even if this one wasn't particularly successful... 

 

Lotus-Pratt & Whitney

[scheivlak]

How about the Ferrari-Jaguar?  

 

Just to add one that reminds me how F1 cars used to be innovative, even if this one wasn't particularly successful... 

 

Lotus-Pratt & Whitney

 

As mentioned above 

[Cesc]

McLaren Honda.

When it was announced that McLaren would switch from TAG-Porsche to Honda and Senna coming, everyone thought about a dominant year in 1988...and man, that was domination. Imagine a McLaren-Honda+Senna without Prost in 1988, we could have seen something like 13 or 14 wins from the Brazilian.

[Disgrace]

Anything-Mugen-Honda.

 

More rebadged engines: Arrows-Asiatech, Ligier-Megatron, Minardi-Fondmetal.

Edited by Disgrace, 19 November 2013 - 11:51.

[Amphicar]

McLaren-Serenissima (surely the most euphonious name ever - pity there was never a Lola-Serenissima)

 

Brabham-Repco

 

Cooper-Maserati

 

Cooper-ATS

[W154]

From the 50's, the Lancia-Ferrari.
I notice Brabham Repco listed previously, but in Australia these were always referred to as Repco-Brabham's .

[David Lightman]

No surprise that nobody has picked McLaren Peugeot

[PayasYouRace]

From the 50's, the Lancia-Ferrari.
I notice Brabham Repco listed previously, but in Australia these were always referred to as Repco-Brabham's .

 

Just like how Williams-BMWs were knows as BMW Williams only in Germany. Funny how that happens.

 

Of course the official order is always chassis-engine as stipulated by the FIA.

[August]

Anything-Mugen-Honda.

 

More rebadged engines: Arrows-Asiatech, Ligier-Megatron, Minardi-Fondmetal.

 

I wouldn't call Asiatech a rebadged engine, at least more than Mecachrome or Supertec. Asiatech had bought Peugeot's F1 operations, so it's not like Ferrari engines rebadged to sponsoring Acer.

 

Just like how Williams-BMWs were knows as BMW Williams only in Germany. Funny how that happens.

 

Of course the official order is always chassis-engine as stipulated by the FIA.

 

I think Williams was quite often referred as BMW Williams in Finland. Usually when they mentioned the engine name, they said it in that order. And I think they spoke more often about BMW Williams than e.g. McLaren-Mercedes or BAR-Honda.

 

2010. Sauber had to keep BMW in their name to retain BMW Sauber's FOM money.

 

To add to my previous post, Sauber's constructor name during the BMW era actually changed quite often, if formula1.com's result lists have the official constructor name.

 

-2005: Sauber-Petrionas

2006: Sauber-BMW

2007: BMW

2008-09: BMW Sauber

2010: BMW Sauber-Ferrari

2011-: Sauber-Ferrari

 

2006 may be explained by the same reason as 2010, to keep the FOM money. 2008-09 name seems incorrect to my eyes, unless their engine was badged as BMW Sauber, with a BMW engine it should be BMW Sauber-BMW.

Edited by August, 19 November 2013 - 14:12.