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[ZuTiMa]

RBR pitstop 1.923sec, Fastest or not? The team said after the US Grand Prix that the Australian Mark Webber had stopped in the pits for less than two seconds. "The team's car data recorded Mark as being stationary for just 1.923sec, an incredible feat,"

Previously, both Mercedes and Ferrari have laid claim holding the world record for the fastest pitstop ever recorded in Formula 1. After Suzuka Mercedes had stopped the clock during the Japanese Grand Prix at 2.02 seconds, which is 0.04 seconds faster than the previous pitstop record, set earlier this season by Red Bull.
But at almost exactly the same time, Ferrari was also claiming a 1.95 second pitstop in Japan. “Who is right?” wondered Auto Motor und Sport correspondent Michael Schmidt. “It’s always a question of what you measure, and how you measure it,” Mercedes’ team manager Ron Meadows is quoted. CONFLICTING MEASURES 

For instance, Ferrari reportedly times pitstops with its own overhead cameras, while Mercedes uses the timing done by the British broadcaster Sky. Schmidt said that Fernando Alonso’s ‘record’ 1.95 second stop at Suzuka was actually timed as 2.11 seconds by the broadcaster. (GMM) http://grandprix247....p-world-record/

Q: How is pit-stop speed measured?
A: Pit stop speed: the 'wheel-stop' time, i.e. the time taken to change all four wheels from the point when the car reaches a standstill in the pits, Teams measure wheel-stop times using in-house methods - and a stop below three seconds in race conditions is considered extremely competitive. The total pit-lane times are measured centrally, and therefore form the most reliable basis for comparison. http://www.formula1....1/11/12756.html

So the question then gets asked … if a team “claim” a record using in-house methods of measuring time taken to do a pitsstop is it then a record in the true sense??

[ReeVe]

who cares

some teams like measuring from jack on to green light, eliminating driver reaction and measuring just the crew output, FOM measures stationary time, it's not like there's an authority or a definition of what constitutes a pit stop.

[jcbc3]

Since it is a team operation of which the driver is a big part it doesn't make sense to measure anything but the time spent in the pits. Problem then is that the pit length differs widely and thus no universal record can be established. I have stopped paying any attention to the smaller number and just focused on the greater. If 'the team' turns a driver around in 2 seconds flat, but set their speed limiter at 98 km/h, it is on the team and not the driver if he is slower than someone being turned around in 2.5 seconds but with a speed limiter at 100 km/h (or whatever the limit is at any given track).

[ReeVe]

Since it is a team operation of which the driver is a big part it doesn't make sense to measure anything but the time spent in the pits. Problem then is that the pit length differs widely and thus no universal record can be established. I have stopped paying any attention to the smaller number and just focused on the greater. If 'the team' turns a driver around in 2 seconds flat, but set their speed limiter at 98 km/h, it is on the team and not the driver if he is slower than someone being turned around in 2.5 seconds but with a speed limiter at 100 km/h (or whatever the limit is at any given track).

 

technically stationary time can be influenced by traffic in the pitlane, teams measure what they need to improve their workflow, FOM measures what affects the race

[Baddoer]

So Red Bull now cheates even with pit stop time. How pathetic.

[Lights]

Way too much focus on this time record. Consistency and not failing to attach a wheel etc. is far more important.

[Jon83]

If they want to claim this record then let them - it doesn't really matter.

 

Last year McLaren had a great stop in Germany but more people remember the stops where something went wrong.

[g1n]

So Red Bull now cheates even with pit stop time. How pathetic.

They are measuring just their pit crew, taking out driver out of the equation.

[Kingshark]

Last year McLaren had a great stop in Germany but more people remember the stops where something went wrong.

 

Of course, because there were so many of them.

[discover23]

Way too much focus on this time record. Consistency and not failing to attach a wheel etc. is far more important.

agree. what happened to the talk about not letting the pit-stops go under a certain limit for safety reasons?