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#1 V3TT3L

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 17:46

http://esporte.uol.c...vaga-na-f-1.htm

 

1pros·ti·tute

\ˈpräs-tə-ˌtüt, -ˌtyüt\

: to use (something valuable, such as talent) in a way that is not appropriate or respectable and especially to earn money

 

Brazilian driver Felipe Massa gathered the local press on a lunch event.

Massa stated that his biggest pride in the process of leaving Ferrari is not becoming a prostitute to get a race seat in 2014 F1.

 

'It's a word I don't know if I shoud say/use, because it is too strong, but its indeed 'prostitute'. I didn't have to become a prostitute and that's another reason to be proud. I didn't beg to race. I wanted to keep racing, but didn't need to [prostitute myself]. I'm not gonna pay to race.

Of course I'm gonna help the team to get sponsors, it will be good for the car and for me, but I'm not gonna become a prostitute'. Said Massa.

 

Massa kept on saying that when he arrived F1 in the dawn of 2000's, paying drivers were already a common practice.

And this 'disease' kept spreading, reaching the big teams due to the economic crisis the world has been facing for some years already.

 

Regarding to his last race for Ferrari, Massa is hoping for a cold and rainy day on Sunday at Interlagos.

According to Massa, those conditions would allow him to get his last win for the Italian race team.

 

'Winning for the third time at Interlagos would be the biggest dream of my lifetime and the coronation of my relationship with Ferrari.

In order to happen, its necessary cold and rain to reduce the gap from RedBull'.

Massa also reminded about the crowd cheering for him: 'it always helps his race in Interlagos'. 

 

Unfortunatelly for him the weather prediction is a temperature avg of 26ºC, with no possibility of rain on race day.

 



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#2 FullThrottleF1

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 17:52

Thank goodness, I was worried for a second :-)

#3 johnmhinds

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 17:58

Isn't a pay driver the client not the prostitute?

 

Last time I checked prostitutes aren't the ones paying for the "ride"



#4 Atreiu

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 18:01

I thought of Barrichello begging a ride even nowadays...
 

Semantics aside, Massa's reasoning is perfectly comprehensible.



#5 apoka

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 18:04

I'm somewhat surprised that Williams hired him without financial backing. But I guess his help to get sponsor will be worth something.



#6 V3TT3L

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 18:05

Is Massa calling Alonso a prostitute  :eek:

 

According to his logic...

 

I think Massa was very unpollite with his paydriver mates  :o



#7 Diablobb81

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 18:16

He was already a bitch so not much difference.

 

Yeah, yeah, too harsh. :p



#8 Prost1997T

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 18:16

So we won't be seeing any Petrobras logos, or similar companies appearing on the Williams next year?



#9 prty

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 18:20

I can foresee now Massa as a Brazilian prostitute and Vettel as Justin Bieber in the photoshopped thread.



#10 johnmhinds

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 18:24

How does he explain the dozens of TV adverts he has done over the past decade if he thinks he wasn't selling himself to sponsors?

 

 

 



#11 RealRacing

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 18:46

Dear Felipe, please go back and watch the interviews and press conferences after Hockenheim 2010 and therein you will find the very definition of what you say you are not but you are. Hint, he's funny looking and says "for sure" a lot...



#12 X61

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 19:30

I'd prostitute myself for an F1 drive.



#13 Lemans

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 19:35

Odd thing for him to say considering he took it in the ass at Hockenheim in front of millions of veiwers in 2010.



#14 William Hunt

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 19:37

I'd prostitute myself for an F1 drive.

 

with old ladies? (assuming you are male).



#15 bogi

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 19:45

Nevere heard before that prostitutes beg for sex :confused:



#16 Outsider

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 20:00

what makes me even more laugh is that he thinks he can win... :rotfl:



#17 Fatgadget

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 20:14

He was already a bitch so not much difference.

 

Yeah, yeah, too harsh. :p

Yeah ..back door biatch!  :lol: ...Okay I'll get my coat..


Edited by Fatgadget, 20 November 2013 - 20:15.


#18 SealTheDiffuser

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 20:35

please remove that thread.

 

it makes me angry and sick

 

MAS was made ALO's bitch at Ferrari

 

MAS brings a ton of money with him to Williams as Sponsors and then he states really the thing told in the OP?

 

he says other drivers are prostitutes but not him?

 

really embarrassed for him :down:



#19 X61

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 22:03

with old ladies? (assuming you are male).

Of course, old ladies have more money to give than 18 year olds.



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#20 MikeV1987

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 22:12

Well their aren't any other Brazilians around atm, and Bernie really wanted one on the grid. Not a smart thing to say IMO.



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Posted 20 November 2013 - 22:36

Isn't a pay driver the client not the prostitute?

 

Last time I checked prostitutes aren't the ones paying for the "ride"

 

Post of the week!



#22 JimiKart

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 03:20

Odd thing for him to say considering he took it in the ass at Hockenheim in front of millions of veiwers in 2010.

Ya but he's not a ho unless he gets paid for it...



#23 Outsider

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 04:10

Ya but he's not a ho unless he gets paid for it...

you mean he hasn't recieved his salary too?



#24 Andrew Hope

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 04:19

Aren't we all paying for entertainment, tickets to go the race, cable to watch it all on TV, and internet to stream and watch F1, when we could just sit on our beds and have more fun with our hand in five minutes than F1 brings us in five years? We're all whores.



#25 jonpollak

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 05:42

Of all the hookers I've had

None were Felipe Massa.

 

Jp



#26 garagetinkerer

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 05:50

Of all the hookers I've had

None were Felipe Massa.

 

Jp

:rotfl:

 

First there was the comment about Schumacher and now this... I like Massa, but he is making it very hard for it to remain that way.


Edited by garagetinkerer, 21 November 2013 - 05:50.


#27 johnmhinds

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 06:11

Aren't we all paying for entertainment, tickets to go the race, cable to watch it all on TV, and internet to stream and watch F1, when we could just sit on our beds and have more fun with our hand in five minutes than F1 brings us in five years? We're all whores.

Not sure why this needs to be stated again, but whores aren't the ones that pay in that transaction...

 

Massa comparing pay drivers to prostitutes for bringing personal sponsors is just silly, if that is really how he sees it then surely he is no better than them for working in the Ferrari/Philip Morris Brothel™ for the last 8 years.



#28 Gorma

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 06:38

The way I see it Massa was prostituting himself for the last four years at Ferrari and I think he should have kept his mouth shut. What a stupid comment..



#29 baddog

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 06:40

There is a divide.. but it is a very hard one to draw in middle cases.

 

Alonso (or hamilton, or raikkonen, etc) for example brings money because he is fantastic, and the money follows him.. it polishes the path, it may help a team choose him over, say, vettel if he has more money,  but he would have a good drive regardless.. and if santander walk then someone else will step in to be associated with him. He is the valuable commodity.

 

Your outright pay drivers (and I wont name current names but you know who they are) bring money because the money wont come without their drive.. no money no drive. The money comes first and the driver is chosen because of nationality/connections/family or whatever. The sponsor is the valuable commodity and if the sponsor drops they are never heard from again.

 

Many many drivers fall somewhere in between, Massa is one of them.. but he almost won a WDC remember, he wasnt a putz.

 

Of course the sport is not very fair either, many good drivers never get a chance due to money.. you have to be good AND able to parlay that into money.. but it is usually obvious whether the money or talent came first.



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 07:16

The way Massa and Williams go out of their way to underline Massa is not onboard because of sponsorcontracts makes you believe he really is only taken because of sponsor contracts. 

 

But good to know he doesn't feel like a prostitue. 



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 16:35

you mean he hasn't recieved his salary too?

 

No, I mean he's getting paid anyway so unless they gave him extra $$ to move over for Fred then he's not a real true full-on whore, in other words he can't even whore himself properly!!!

 

Massa leading team Williams... straight into the abyss.



#32 fabr68

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 16:48

Poor choice of words by Massa.

He is implying one would need to give up his body (to sleep with someone from a team) to get a ride in F1.

If he meant he is not buying a seat, that is anything but being a prostitute.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 16:55

The way Massa and Williams go out of their way to underline Massa is not onboard because of sponsorcontracts makes you believe he really is only taken because of sponsor contracts. 

 

 

 

Or Bernie helping him because he needs a Brazilian driver on the grid.



#34 stillOrange

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 16:58

Ok, maybe he didn't prostitute but he certainly cockblocked that second Ferrari seat for some time.

#35 Jackmancer

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 20:56

It's a weird metaphor, but lets just let Massa feel good about himself.



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 01:03

What Massa probably meant was that he didn't need to be 'paid' by companies and corporations in order to be able to offer his personal package to the teams on the grid. He was hired by Williams on merit and what he could bring in terms of competence and experience. All this no matter what kind of sponsors he can and will bring to the team in the future. I'm surprised so many failed to understand what he meant. It's pretty obvious.

 

 

Ok, maybe he didn't prostitute but he certainly cockblocked that second Ferrari seat for some time.

 

Nobody else wanted the #2 seat. Perez didn't want it for instance. Kimi wanted at least the 1b seat and he got it since he's still the last Ferrari WDC.


Edited by Hyak, 22 November 2013 - 01:08.


#37 f1RacingForever

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 02:38

I feel sorry for how things ended at Ferrari. Must have been embarrassing getting destroyed by Alonso year after year after im sure he had such high hopes at the start of 2010. First hockenheim 2010 which probably destroyed his confidence and his relationship with the team, then it was pretty much downhill from there. Many will point to Hungary 2009 as a moment that changed him but IMO he simply was never that great of a driver. The current regs require excellent race craft, something of a strength of Alonso which has perhaps widened the gap even more. I can forgive him for ignoring the team last this year as i think he deserves revenge for hockenheim. I hope he can race well next year and gain some self worth.



#38 Jimisgod

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 04:56

Are you a prostitute if you only have one Spanish client?

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 06:24

Saying he's proud for not selling out is a ridiculous thing to say for someone who has been bending over and taken it for years and years just so he can wear a nice red suit and get paid a lot of money, but then he never was the sharpest knife in the drawer so not surprised he would say a thing like that really..



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 07:41

Interesting choice of words there from Massa.Was he speaking English or Portuguese?I am always suspect to quotes from non native English speakers because they always get misquoted.



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 12:46

Isn't a pay driver the client not the prostitute?

 

Last time I checked prostitutes aren't the ones paying for the "ride"

Depends how you look at it. Pay driver finds sponsors to afford a living standard (motor racing) he wouldn't be qualified on skill alone.

 

Well but maybe all drivers were prostitutse at some stage, I haven't heard anyone in modern F1 who made it though the ladders with personal savings or bank loans.


Edited by Mauseri, 22 November 2013 - 12:49.


#42 RealRacing

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 15:49

Are you a prostitute if you only have one Spanish client?

Hahaha, well, depending on the alignment of the planets, it's either Spanish or Japanese so should that count as one or two? But there were at least two Italian clients as well...



#43 Acathla

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 18:04

Seriously Massa? No sponsors for Williams from your side next year. Good luck being mediocre! 



#44 fabr68

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 00:42

I too am proud of Massa for not turning into a prostitute.

Whatever he means with that.

:lol:

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 08:11

Client should be the word, not prostitute. By that, he means the new team he is joining as one of the prostitutes in F1.



#46 Hollow

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 14:24

Massa's IQ is even lower than Hamilton's.



#47 turssi

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 21:43

So he not being pimped by his agent or sponsor or Bernie is what he is saying I guess?

I wonder who asked him to become a prostitute?

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Posted 24 November 2013 - 02:04

I'm glad he's decided against being a prostitute, it would have been a poor career choice, he probably wouldn't have made much money..... Besides, he'd look silly in a short skirt and high heels, he hasn't got the figure for it.

 

Seriously though, I think we all get what he means, without being pedantic about his choice of words spoken in his presumably (second?) non-native language.


Edited by wepmob2000, 24 November 2013 - 02:13.


#49 wepmob2000

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Posted 24 November 2013 - 02:06

Massa's IQ is even lower than Hamilton's.

Neither of them has ever struck me as being among the sharper blades in the drawer :-D



#50 totgate

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Posted 24 November 2013 - 09:42

Massa, Seriously?????   :drunk: