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#1 Wirra

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Posted 24 November 2013 - 03:18

Some snaps taken at Sydney Motorsport Park (nee Eastern Creek) HSRCA meeting today - Nov 2013.

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#2 timbo

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 01:35

Saturday was a bit damp.

 

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#3 Wirra

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Posted 30 November 2013 - 04:15

TNFer 'Tappets' and his Elfin MS7.

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#4 timbo

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 21:00

A few more photos,

 

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#5 timbo

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 21:47

OOPS; So much for sizing up my photo's properly.



#6 mouserat159

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 06:26



Thanks for everyone's great photos, who owns the Bug Eye Sprite now? I know the two pervious owner's


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#7 Wirra

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Posted 04 May 2014 - 06:07

Rod Carroll had the Lola F5000 flying at SMSP today.

 

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I understand Rod is okay.



#8 275 GTB-4

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 01:00

I understand Rod is okay....amen to that.

Sorry Seldo, didn't see any Bowling Club badges on Norms car...

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#9 Wirra

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 01:45

Good to see, and hear, some Big Banger sporties there yesterday.

 

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The MS7 was there also - see photo in earlier post.

 

(edit) I didn't arrive there until 10:30 on the Sunday and the Matich SR3 didn't run after that time, Pity as' I'm after a snap for the 'Now and Then' thread.


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#10 275 GTB-4

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 09:43

Good to see, and hear, some Big Banger sporties there yesterday.


Nice pics Peter...but the SR3 was also a fairly big banger :stoned:



#11 xj13v12

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 10:45

Rod Carroll had the Lola F5000 flying at SMSP today.
 
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I understand Rod is okay.

I spoke to Rod this morning. He is very lucky and a bit sore. He said medical attention was first rate and he is glad that he built the roll bar 1 1/2" higher than required. Incredibly there is not a mark on his helmet.
I also spoke to Damon Hancock straight out of burns unit at Concord. A couple of third degree burns which may require some grafts. Ankle, back of hands and forearms burnt. Treatment today removed dead skin etc to prevent infection. You can see the footage on retro speedfest live stream. Very scary. the belts melted and he struggled to get out. If the tanks had blown he would be dead but luckily the fire went out when he shut it down.



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Posted 05 May 2014 - 14:19

Damon Hancock's car was leaking fuel quite badly on the warmup lap. I hope he has a full and speedy recovery.



#13 275 GTB-4

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 23:07

I wonder if he was meat-balled...



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Posted 06 May 2014 - 10:16

Good point. The car should have been black flagged. It was spewing fluid out long before the start of the race, highly visible on the footage.

#15 Ray Bell

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 13:17

The Rod Carroll crash surprises me...

I was talking to Dave yesterday and he didn't mention it at all.

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 22:31

 

Rod Carroll had the Lola F5000 flying at SMSP today.
 
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I understand Rod is okay.

I spoke to Rod this morning. He is very lucky and a bit sore. He said medical attention was first rate and he is glad that he built the roll bar 1 1/2" higher than required. Incredibly there is not a mark on his helmet.
I also spoke to Damon Hancock straight out of burns unit at Concord. A couple of third degree burns which may require some grafts. Ankle, back of hands and forearms burnt. Treatment today removed dead skin etc to prevent infection. You can see the footage on retro speedfest live stream. Very scary. the belts melted and he struggled to get out. If the tanks had blown he would be dead but luckily the fire went out when he shut it down.

 

What happened?  By the pics it appears to be a R/R tyre failure. I guess the yellow car got pinballed by the out of control car. Is that ok besides the obvious wing damage?

How much damage to the Carroll 5000. Quite a deal I imagine. Though is it hang on stuff or tub too?



#17 Ray Bell

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 23:29

The car came with a containerload of spares...

I wonder if a tyre slipped off the rim? Or if maybe he clipped the other car first?

#18 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 22:56

He locked up his brakes trying to slow for the corner and went over David Kent's left rear wheel, that in turn launched him over David's car. The on board footage is spectacular to say the least. The first thing he did on landing was to apologise.

I never will understand why people like F5000s.

That will defenitly do it! Never nice to be tripped over or worse trip over someone.

5000s look tough, sound tough and in period were as quick as F1. That is why most like them. 

Speed differences and poor driving or prep sounds the culprit here.



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 03:10

........I never will understand why people like F5000s.

Have you ever been close to one?



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 04:49

He locked up his brakes trying to slow for the corner and went over David Kent's left rear wheel, that in turn launched him over David's car. The on board footage is spectacular to say the least. The first thing he did on landing was to apologise.

I never will understand why people like F5000s.


Sadly these days, in many situations the owners' skill behind the wheel is largely overshadowed by the size of their cheque-books...
But they are awesome weapons that need a great deal of skill to tame.

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#21 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 05:35

Sadly these days, in many situations the owners' skill behind the wheel is largely overshadowed by the size of their cheque-books...
But they are awesome weapons that need a great deal of skill to tame.

And you probably would like to drive one too. As would I. Not necesarily race one. Just have a day in one.



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 05:59

I would not be too quick to judge Rod Carroll ..... the question must be asked ...... what was David doing in the middle of the road and way off line ???  Did he see the Lola diving down the inside and moved over to "shut the gate".

If David was not "covering the corner" there would not have been a coming together !

 

Sadly, this sort of attitude has found its way into historic racing.



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 07:13

I would not be too quick to judge Rod Carroll ..... the question must be asked ...... what was David doing in the middle of the road and way off line ???  Did he see the Lola diving down the inside and moved over to "shut the gate".
If David was not "covering the corner" there would not have been a coming together !
 
Sadly, this sort of attitude has found its way into historic racing.

Please don't think that was intended as a commentary on Rod Carroll's expertise - I have absolutely no idea how capable or otherwise he may be. But as a generalisation the cap will fit quite a few out there.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:02

A few photo's of the weekend,

 

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 11:05

All the speculation on the crash is totally wrong. It was quite simple. All the cars braked early. David got caught out and braked hard and Rod was behind him and ran out of room too. No action taken against anyone once they were questioned. Basically people being cautious on the first lap and braking earlier than expected. Spectacular result with no injuries. Blaming F5000s for this one is crap. Rod thought about overtaking but decided to wait. David moved over a bit because the car in front braked early. There was no blocking or any such driving, just miscalculations of what others were doing. If anything more aggressive driving would have averted the crash. Decisive overtaking moves would have been better.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 19:51

Timbo do you know what power plant is in the Green Cooper?

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 20:28

The car is Ivan Glasby's ex Bob Gerard Cooper Bristol T44



#28 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 22:41

Timbo do you know what power plant is in the Green Cooper?

I thought the noise factor would preclude that car. It has on others with similar exhausts.



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 23:38

I thought the noise factor would preclude that car. It has on others with similar exhausts.

Yeah,probaly sneaks in because it was the standard Bristol exhaust of the time.



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Posted 09 May 2014 - 00:29

I thought the noise factor would preclude that car. It has on others with similar exhausts.

 

 

Yeah,probaly sneaks in because it was the standard Bristol exhaust of the time.

 

It always amazes me that they can have the noise meter out at Eastern Creek, and ping someone for going a db over the limit, while next door at Sydney Dragway, the Top Fuel dragsters can happily shatter the same noise meters with their open exhausts.



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Posted 09 May 2014 - 03:58

A few more from the weekend,

 

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 09:32

Here a few photos I took from the weekend..

 

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#33 275 GTB-4

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 10:32

Here a few photos I took from the weekend..


Oh terrific! He throws up some stunning snaps and makes out as it is nothing at all! :p  :up:



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Posted 09 May 2014 - 20:04

The photo of the green Brabham #1, I have never seen a photo that shows a driver so uncomftable in a car & his helmet appears to not fit correctly exposing the back of the head.

To me it appears that the driver must be to tall for the car & it must be hard for him to drive, but what a glorious car from days past.

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 20:37

Perhaps the driving position was more suitable to an open-face helmet?



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Posted 09 May 2014 - 22:17

Great photos Mph911.

#37 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 01:00

Great photos Mph911.

Agreed. The one Dan commented on looking down is a great and unusual pic especially. To me that is an ugly motorcar. or at least from that angle. I would hate to be the passenger in the obligatory passenger seat!



#38 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 01:01

Yeah,probaly sneaks in because it was the standard Bristol exhaust of the time.

I believe the Snape Zephyr special has been mothballed because of the exhausts as such.



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Posted 10 May 2014 - 01:37

Lee is was talking about the Brabham single seater car number 1 not the green Sports car.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 03:28

Oh terrific! He throws up some stunning snaps and makes out as it is nothing at all! :p  :up:

 

All these photo's and not one selfie.

What is wrong with our generation?  :) 



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Posted 10 May 2014 - 04:33

A few more from the weekend,


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Driver of #34 - "Why is everyone else going the wrong way?"



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Posted 10 May 2014 - 05:19

All these photo's and not one selfie.

What is wrong with our generation?  :)

 

 

You're assuming I am of the "selfie" generation? 

Thank you for the thumbs up, I will post a few more later. 

It was a great weekend, I ran my 911 in Regularity.

Does anyone know if the weekend was a success crowd-wise?



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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:39

Crowds? Eastern Creek?

 

I was only able to make it on the Sunday, but while the crowds were up for a normal historic meeting, I'm sure they were expecting more people through the gates.

In Sydney, we can only dream of Phillip Island or Winton sized crowds for historic meetings.



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Posted 10 May 2014 - 07:20

I believe the Snape Zephyr special has been mothballed because of the exhausts as such.

I don't think so Lee, you can see it racing at Winton in a fortnight's time.



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Posted 10 May 2014 - 10:26

That's certainly good news...

That car needs plenty of airing.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 06:44

Here are a few more shots from the Sydney Retro Speedfest

 

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#47 Wirra

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 12:49

The 2015 Retro Fest was held this weekend yet not one post about the event (arguably Aus' second biggest Historic meeting) on this forum. It kinda signals to me the state of historic racing at the moment (or is it this forum?). I'm not sure what size crowd attended but I looked at the entry list and gave it a miss. Where the hell are all the cars and why aren't they racing or on display?



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 22:12

Now Australia's oldest All Historic meeting, Historic Winton was just one week ago

and, incredibly for a club whose role and purpose is to run events for old racing cars, pre 1960 racing cars were not invited to the Retrofest

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 23:06

The 2015 Retro Fest was held this weekend yet not one post about the event (arguably Aus' second biggest Historic meeting) on this forum. It kinda signals to me the state of historic racing at the moment (or is it this forum?). I'm not sure what size crowd attended but I looked at the entry list and gave it a miss. Where the hell are all the cars and why aren't they racing or on display?


Well, when the HSRCA decided to ditch the Tasman Revival as their big meeting and go chasing a Muscle Car Masters type all singing, all dancing, pizzazz-filled extravaganza...maybe they should have looked at marketing and advertising a little more?

I probably would have gone along if Ed or someone had slipped a little prompt on TNF a week or two out...

http://forums.autosp...s/#entry7196304

When I was actively Flagging (well there was SOME activity involved! :-), I would often start a thread in advance to promote a little interest if I didn't see any of the many HSRCA members here doing something similar.

However, this is only TNF, I have heard/seen radio and even TV promotions in the past...but Sydney-ites are notoriously hard to coax from their over-mortgaged, over-priced little boxes! :wave:


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Posted 08 June 2015 - 02:45

Marketing and advertising reduction didn't affect the gate much, though a little, so that reduction came to look like a wise business decision

A deeper concern includes other decisions taken by the HSRCA: in September 2016 for example the HSRCA finds itself running its "focus on JKL logbooked racing cars" meeting at Wakefield Park just one week after the VSCCA at the same circuit plans to run its pre 1960 ie JKL-only commemoration 40 years on of Australia's first All Historic meeting at Amaroo 1976-- all of this further complicated by at least the HSRCA's choice to NOT invite JKL to some meetings in 2014-2015(so forcing their hand to INVITE JKL to meetings 2016 onwards), and also implications of Formula Junior 50 year celebrations. There are many unhappy chappies, and the future doesn't look any better

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