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[GroupC2]

I just read on James Allen

 

22. Posted By: Darren
    Date: November 28th, 2013 @ 1:57 pm 

The three Brawn cars left the factory 3 weeks ago the guys at the factory saw this as the end of an era …

 

So if their were three Brawn cars what is happening to them ?   

 

Does Ross have a shed like Sir Jackie and John Surtees, if so what else does he have??

[John Player]

I think Jenson Button has one. Which was used by Rubens.

[Alexis*27]

Weren't they repainted in Merc colours?

[jjcale]

They are hanging up in the Museum of Rule Bending...

[Tombstone]

Mercedes exhibited one at the 2010 FOS. Sadly it was indeed painted in Merc colours, which is NOT what the majority of Festival goers would want to see.

Edited by Tombstone, 28 November 2013 - 14:44.

[blackmme]

One of them was used at the 2010 Merc presentation event when Merc was launched with MS and co (prior to the actual launch of the 2010 car)
I thought at the time that chassis is fairly unique, built as a Honda, raced as a Brawn and finally the first Silver Arrow of a new generation.

I believe one of them is Buttons, there seems to have been a bit of wrangling about him actually obtaining the car.

Regards Mike

[OO7]

They are hanging up in the Museum of Rule Bending...

[Santosdf]

They are hanging up in the Museum of Rule Bending...

I wonder which other cars hang around that museum, have a few in mind

[wrcva]

http://www.dailymail...m-car-gift.html

 

 

[Afterburner]

I wonder which other cars hang around that museum, have a few in mind

The Toyota GT-One easily belongs, with its 'boot space' that was in reality a fuel tank.

[Amphicar]

Perhaps Ross getting the Brawn cars was part of his severance package from M-B? 

[03011969]

They are hanging up in the Museum of Rule Bending...

I'm not sure they were ever caught bending any rules, but they certainly clung to every contour of the rules, which is the aim of the game.

[DampMongoose]

I wonder which other cars hang around that museum, have a few in mind

 

The 1994 (Does it/Doesn't it) Benetton and the Dauer Porsche 962 'road' car immediately spring to mind for me... possibly less so, the original 917 with movable aero (homologated but then deemed illegal) and the lead shot Tyrell, or just about any ground effects car with the 'bang it back into legal position for testing' sliding skirts.

[PayasYouRace]

That would be a cool museum. I guess we'd also have the Renault RS01, the Brabham BT46 and the Penske PC23.

[ForeverF1]

Would McLaren release the "Brake Steer MP4-12" for inclusion?

[Nemo1965]

Sorry, but I find the BT 46,  the Brawn 01 and the Brake Steer MP4-12 so different in rule-bending than cars with a hidden fuel tank, that this museum would be very unbalanced.

[dau]

Sorry, but I find the BT 46,  the Brawn 01 and the Brake Steer MP4-12 so different in rule-bending than cars with a hidden fuel tank, that this museum would be very unbalanced.

The GT-One didn't have a hidden fuel tank, if that's the one you mean. The regulations at that time mandated that every GT car had to have enough 'storage space' to hold a single suitcase or something like that. GTs were supposed to be production-based road cars, after all. Some teams let some space for that in the bodywork, Toyota argued that the actual fuel tank would qualify, as it could hold a suitcase easily.

 

So basically, they had no tank at all, just a trunk that was used to store...uhm...fuel.

Edited by dau, 28 November 2013 - 17:06.

[Ross Stonefeld]

I think he meant more the 2005 BAR that was busted.

[Kimble]

Jenson has one, Ross another and I believe the last one is a show car.  They are all in Brawn livery now.

[chumma]

Would McLaren release the "Brake Steer MP4-12" for inclusion?

Brake steer was on the 13 in 98 was it not?

Edited by chumma, 29 November 2013 - 07:39.

[ForeverF1]

Brake steer was on the 13 in 98 was it not?

Nope but it (MP4-13) did set the record at the Goodwood Festival of Speed in '99

[PayasYouRace]

Brake steer was on the 13 in 98 was it not?

 

Yeah it was in Australia 98. Then it was banned for Brazil and the team dominated even without it. It might have been introduced in the 97 car though.

[dave34m]

Mercedes exhibited one at the 2010 FOS. Sadly it was indeed painted in Merc colours, which is NOT what the majority of Festival goers would want to see.

 

Yeah that one was Jensons car according to the two Merc (ex Brawn) guys there I was talking with. Shame it was in Merc colours, I certainly would have loved to see it in the original colours.
 

[Buttoneer]

Gross misjudgement that.  A very corporate decision which should never have been made.

 

Regarding the chassis numbers, did Jenson get his own WDC winning chassis or one of the others?  I vaguely recall a bit of wrangling on that point.

[DampMongoose]

Gross misjudgement that.  A very corporate decision which should never have been made.

 

Regarding the chassis numbers, did Jenson get his own WDC winning chassis or one of the others?  I vaguely recall a bit of wrangling on that point.

 

I cannot remember which one he got in the end or if they built a new tub... but he did need to take action against Mercedes with a High Court Writ to make it happen, even though it was very clear in his contract that he should be given one of his race cars if he was WDC.