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[maverick69]

Yup and this is becoming a pre-season tradition for Lewis,  crashing on the first day of running.  That's how you break a car in,  I was almost relieved when I first heard the news. 

Lol. He does love his fence on day 1.

[SophieB]

Positive though. The car looks good straight out of the box - and they hit the ground well and truly running......... Unlike some others.

 

Also hit the wall well and truly running.

 

I kid, I kid! Not an ideal first day's running but it could have been worse.

[maverick69]

Also hit the wall well and truly running.

 

I kid, I kid! Not an ideal first day's running but it could have been worse.

 

Lol. Well it had to happen didn't it? But at least they now know a weakspot which appears to be a little bit of structural fiddling rather than a fundamental issue with the concept of the car. I mean....... they haven't bolted on a 2008 wing and proclaimed that everything is fine 

 

Ahhhhhh....... The good old days........

Edited by maverick69, 28 January 2014 - 13:44.

[ZionLH]

Yup and this is becoming a pre-season tradition for Lewis,  crashing on the first day of running.  That's how you break a car in,  I was almost relieved when I first heard the news. 

[Biggles Flies Undone]

What's that small pod thing on the wing, a sensor cover ?

 

Edited by Biggles Flies Undone, 28 January 2014 - 13:48.

[KiloWatt]

Lol. Well it had to happen didn't it? But at least they now know a weakspot which appears to be a little bit of structural fiddling rather than a fundamental issue with the concept of the car. I mean....... they haven't bolted on a 2008 wing and proclaimed that everything is fine 
 
Ahhhhhh....... The good old days........

Horrible fashbacks from my last year as a McLaren man. I will never ever forget the Diffuser of Justice™

[Nahnever]

Any word on Lewis' new steering wheel yet? Or is it still the same old one?

[maverick69]

What's that small pod thing on the wing, a sensor cover ?

 

Tyre temp sensor

[maverick69]

Horrible fashbacks from my last year as a McLaren man. I will never ever forget the Diffuser of Justice™

Bask in all of its righteousness and glory 

[KiloWatt]

Bask in all of its righteousness and glory 

I do love macca fans...a very entertaining bunch. Great sense of humour too.

(sorry for the off-topic mods)

[Markn93]

Bit odd they didn't have a spare fw don't you think? 

[ZionLH]

Any word on Lewis' new steering wheel yet? Or is it still the same old one?

I remember him saying that he wanted his wheel to not be connected on the bottom of the handgrips (like mclaren) I also heard his seating position wasn't correct. the main one for me though is how he's dealing with the brakes on the W05. 

[johnmhinds]

Bit odd they didn't have a spare fw don't you think? 

Maybe they had a spare one but it has the same design flaw.

[Lokt]

Bit odd they didn't have a spare fw don't you think? 

Not when you consider the tight time schedule they´ve been on. Whats odd is that the FW came off on a straight

[maverick69]

Not when you consider the tight time schedule they´ve been on. Whats odd is that the FW came off on a straight

 

Maximum vertical load

[SophieB]

Autosport's live update page has reactions from Lewis to the first day's running of the W05:

13:59 Despite his earlier crash, Hamilton is upbeat about his first day in the W05:

"For me it's an incredibly positive start to be the first car out on track and completing a good number of laps.

"Of course, it's unfortunate to end the day early when everyone has worked so hard and we had looked like easily completing the most mileage of anyone here today."

JONATHAN NOBLE is speaking with the Briton, who still heads the day one timesheets, as we type. Look out for more reaction later.

http://live.autospor...tary.php/id/691

[rhukkas]

Edited by rhukkas, 28 January 2014 - 14:10.

[Lokt]

Maximum vertical load

Haha, yes I know but I was refering to the "odd" part is that it should withstand that load.

[Markn93]

Lewis sounds very happy.  That's always a good sign. 

[syolase]

Looks like the problem is not the mounting

 

[Doogz]

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=V_GwL2KFw9I

I dislike the low rev limit, but wow the new engines sound as Jeremy Clarkson would describe "like the God of Thunder gargling with nails".

[Guizotia]

Looks like the problem is not the mounting

 

 

how can you tell?

[SR388]

Looks like the problem is not the mounting

 

 

 

Hmm. I am no engineer, but that is puzzling that it didn't break at a point without a seeming weakness. 

[mclarensmps]

Best looking car, no contest. Hopefully this front wing issue is not terminal (in terms of design)

[senna da silva]

Looks like the problem is not the mounting

 

 

Looks like it failed where it had been laminated onto the nose rather than the mounting point. Maybe a bad batch of resin.

[ayrtonio]

And here afilm from the crash, pretty big one to start the season with!

[jrg19]

 

Helmet looks better in the car this year.

[Newbrray]

What's that small pod thing on the wing, a sensor cover ?

 

 

That is one sexy looking front wing.

[jrg19]

 

High res: http://www.formule1....90906727.78.jpg

 

 

High res:http://www.formule1....90906730.03.jpg

 

 

 

High res: http://www.formule1....90912885.05.jpg

[Jelinski619]

From the image of the wing being transported back in the car, it looks like it may have been a failure of the clever vanity panel usage in the nose? If I'm keeping up correctly, the general opinion is that Mercedes are using a twin tusk setup like the Lotus but covering it with some clever use of the vanity panel in the front wing pillars. The image seems to show the failure wasn't in the mountings between the wing and pillars - it was between the pillars and car. Could that be to do with the vanity panel at all?

 

Armchair mechanic here.

[chipmcdonald]

The STR sounds like a wookie being tortured.  Uhaaaahhhhrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrr  rrrrr  rrrrr. 

 

So impressive, the Marussia guys having a conversation trackside seem not too aware there is a car nearby until it's in front of them. 

 

 

The most interesting sound - what was that boom that accompanied the failure on Lewis' car?

[Markn93]

If you'd have told me this morning the car would complete 18 laps today I'd have expected a disaster. The fact it looks good and has done more laps than most whilst doing a little 'troubleshooting' in the process makes for a day in which they accomplished more than expected rivals means I  can't believe I'm this happy with the day.

[OO7]

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=UKr3YMvMtAY

 

Sounds like a fighter aircraft APU or GTS  .  

 

I like it.     

[onewingedangel]

That is was one sexy looking front wing.

 

Fixed

[chipmcdonald]

Where the wing meets the mounts seems to be completely bare, it's not surprising - that is a teeny tiny little point. 

 

It has to have a hollow section to allow for telemetry wires in addition to that - I would be surprised if it's just bonded to the wing, but it kind of looks that way, nothing looks "torn out".   Too optimistic design.

 

On the other hand, one wonders what they expected to accomplish with the mounts attached so far back on the trailing edge of the wing.   Seems like the wing might want to flex a little...

[peroa]

Where the wing meets the mounts seems to be completely bare, it's not surprising - that is a teeny tiny little point. 

 

It has to have a hollow section to allow for telemetry wires in addition to that - I would be surprised if it's just bonded to the wing, but it kind of looks that way, nothing looks "torn out".   Too optimistic design.

 

On the other hand, one wonders what they expected to accomplish with the mounts attached so far back on the trailing edge of the wing.   Seems like the wing might want to flex a little...

That's really nothing new, if you look at previous years and other teams.

[PayasYouRace]

 one wonders what they expected to accomplish with the mounts attached so far back on the trailing edge of the wing.   Seems like the wing might want to flex a little...

 

Maximises wing area for one.

[chipmcdonald]

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=UKr3YMvMtAY

 

Sounds like a fighter aircraft APU or GTS  .  

 

 Concur, sounds just like a military APU.  Until it quits, then it becomes a vacuum cleaner being turned off.  And it doesn't sound like that on track, it sounds like a wookie in pain.

 

Interesting sequence, though.  The manner in which the IC engine slows down after being put in gear is peculiar, and since the whine is out of sync - hmmm.   The turbo assist motor stays spooled up?

 

These cars sound more interesting when they're going slow.

[discover23]

Best design by far. I hope they kick as with this car, to prove all of the rest that a ridiculous looking stick coming out of the nose was not the only way to go about this.

[chipmcdonald]

That's really nothing new, if you look at previous years and other teams.

 

It looks a little more drastic IMO in that it has a thinner cross section, it appears to be similar but is farther back.  Maybe not. 

[Jamiednm]

What was the cause of Rosbergs FW falling off late season (can't remember which race)?

[Nigol]

What was the cause of Rosbergs FW falling off late season (can't remember which race)?

 

Korea. Don't know why.

[Crossmax]

What was the cause of Rosbergs FW falling off late season (can't remember which race)?

That was Korea.

[Kingshark]

What was the cause of Rosbergs FW falling off late season (can't remember which race)?

 

Just turbulence. It fell off as soon as he pulled out of Lewis' slipstream.

[Crossmax]

Just turbulence. It fell off as soon as he pulled out of Lewis' slipstream.

Turbulence cannot cause a functioning front wing to fail, at least not at the speeds the cars can achieve.

Edited by Crossmax, 28 January 2014 - 16:14.

[Disgrace]

 

I'm not generally a fan of fantasy cars, but could someone photoshop a 2008 rear wing on this car?

[MeatPopsicle]

http://www.formule1....90906727.78.jpg

 

is the outside front wheel off the ground here?

[JonathanProc]

http://www.formule1....90906727.78.jpg

 

is the outside front wheel off the ground here?

 

 

I don't think so. That's Hamilton pulling out of the garage, not on track, so seems unlikely that it'd be off the ground.

[DutchQuicksilver]

First car which has a nose that doesn't make me vomit.

[Lights]

I'm not generally a fan of fantasy cars, but could someone photoshop a 2008 rear wing on this car?

 

I see where you're going. Despite that it's already a beautiful car and I like that picture, I think it would help.