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#901 Wander

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 08:13

I was hoping at the start of this year that Latvala would be able to truly challenge Ogier for the championship this time. Winning this rally would certainly bring those hopes up.



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#902 OvDrone

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 09:43

Yeah, my hopes are with Jari as well. I'll be listening to SS13 on the radio and SS14, the power stage is live - 18:00 CET.



#903 DrProzac

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:08

I'm also keeping my fingers crossed for JML :)

 

Kubica wants to finish and stage conditions were difficult, his pace isn't surprising.


Edited by DrProzac, 11 May 2014 - 10:08.


#904 BRG

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:58

Kubica wants to finish and stage conditions were difficult, his pace isn't surprising.

Given his record, it is surprising, but maybe it shows that he has taken on board what everyone must have been telling him.  

 

It does remove any element of excitement from the event though!  As does the total steam-roller like domination by VW.



#905 ArnageWRC

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 11:47

It wouldn't surprise me if VW won every round. They have so much more resources than all all the others. All very good for VW, but not for the WRC.

And in other news, it seems that from Twitter this morning that RedBull are looking for somebody to run a WRC Premium service. Is the WRC big enough for this? Another wrong turn by RedBull?

#906 MadYarpen

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 14:41

only thing I can pay for are live stages online tbh. But if this premium service encompasses a service park stream...



#907 Zoetrope

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 16:39

Bobby finishes 6th  :up:



#908 BullHead

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 17:05

Well, Ogier doesn't win, Kubica finishes. That was different!

#909 Sheepmachine

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 17:43

Jarri matti latvala :clap:
Wonder if Mikklsen will make it back to service. He seemed pretty concerned about his alternator at the need of the power stage.
Glad Kubica finished, maybe it will stop people complaining. :)

#910 Muppetmad

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 17:48

Anyway, I am going to go way out on a limb and make some rash predictions.  Ogier to win and Kubica to crash out, at least once.  There, I have stuck my neck out, but you have to live dangerously occasionally!   ;)

 ;)

 

To be fair, I wouldn't have disagreed with you before the rally!



#911 BRG

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 18:46

;)

 

To be fair, I wouldn't have disagreed with you before the rally!

Guess why I have never been a betting man!



#912 MaGiK

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 06:44

Congratz to Latvala, well deserved.

Hirvonens pace on the last day was superb.

Given the super difficult conditions, im suprised that our "3 newbies" (Meeke, Kubica, Evans) had trouble free rally.



#913 MadYarpen

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 10:07

Qualifying stage for rally Acores is about to start. Any predictions for the rally? I'll be keeping fingers crossed for Kajto. And it will be interesting to see if 208's reliability has been improved.



#914 EightGear

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 10:58

I'm hoping Abbring's car doesn't fall apart for once. He certainly has the speed to challenge Breen (he was in front of Breen in Greece and Ireland when he retired).



#915 bourbon

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 20:23

Congrats to Kubica on a tremendous 6th at Argentina.  He said he was changing his approach and it appears to have paid off! :up:  (unfortunately we just got the feed)


Edited by bourbon, 15 May 2014 - 20:23.


#916 thuGG

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 09:15

Kajto is doing good so far in Acores, fingers crossed.



#917 MadYarpen

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 11:07

We jinxed him :( From what I understand some big rocks were somehow put on the road after the recce. A shame.



#918 chunder27

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 11:43

Lol just seen a headline on ththis site

 

"Ogier calls for better tv coverage"

 

Well stop winning then and eople might get interested!



#919 artista

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 11:48

Oi! Isn't it a bit unfair to blame Ogier on the lack of interest of WRC?



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#920 AlexLangheck

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 14:17

 Chasing TV is old news. It’s 2014 – online streaming is the way to go for ‘Live’ coverage. Use TV for highlights/review programmes.
RedBull have their own online ‘TV station’ – and haven’t used it as they could have; look at the Mountain Biking World Cup as an example. That is what they should have done with the WRC.

Some series even stream on either YouTube or Dailymotion.

 

I wonder if the WRC insiders really think they should be getting F1 levels of coverage? Surely not....



#921 midgrid

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 17:15

The BBC is reporting that the Jim Clark Rally has been cancelled due to a serious accident. Apparently several spectators have been injured by an errant car.

#922 midgrid

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 18:32

Reports are now saying that two people have been killed.  :(



#923 chunder27

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 18:45

Oh dear

 

Hasnt something happened in that event before?  It is a little sadl these thigs happen on our pretty much only closed roads rally.

 

I fear for the event after this I really do.



#924 BillyWhizz

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 18:49

Oh, oh.

 

News sounds grim. Terrible.



#925 pRy

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 19:41

3 confirmed deaths now. The road in question looks to be a single track road with a small bridge. In a video from last year there were some spectators stood just after the bridge.. perhaps for photography as the cars seem to get some air at that point. They think the car has landed and pitched to the side suddenly.



#926 Coral

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 19:57

I'm really shocked to hear about the deaths at the Jim Clark Rally. I know the area well as I go there often. It's terrible news. :cry:



#927 Doughnut King

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 21:06

Two separate accidents. In first, 5 people people, 1 hospitalised, after a car hit them. In second 3 people died.

 

In truth, I'm surprised we don't hear about spectator deaths more often than we do.

 

 

Peter Cunningham, 40, a care worker from Bolton, was about 60ft from the crash, along with his eight-year-old son Callum. He said that about 20 minutes before the cars set off officials warned a group of about a dozen spectators to move because they were in an “unsafe place” just beyond a small bridge.

He saw one car race over the bridge, followed by another about 10 seconds later.

The second car appeared to lose control after hurtling over the “bump” of the bridge.

“The back end wobbled and the guy just lost control of the car and went into spectators sideways,” he said.

 

http://www.telegraph...road-rally.html


Edited by Doughnut King, 31 May 2014 - 21:08.


#928 Myrvold

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 22:41

Which basically indicates:

  • They stood in a dangerous (not allowed place)
  • It's usually these kind of spectators that get's injured/dies
  • You cannot close the stages off for 'idiots'
  • The marshall should have balls enough to report it inn, if he/she is not able to move the people, cancel the stage. (The officials should also have balls to do this)


#929 DrProzac

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 19:05

SS1 is about to start :)



#930 Anja

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Posted 06 June 2014 - 11:27

Hirvonen's car burned down on the road between SS3 and SS4 and is now blocking the road for most of the other cars. What a mess.



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Posted 06 June 2014 - 11:56

Hirvonen's car burned down on the road between SS3 and SS4 and is now blocking the road for most of the other cars. What a mess.

Was just watching the pictures. Pretty impressive.

Hirvonen seems to be another (there are a few with a pretty weird luck) of the jinxed drivers



#932 Sheepmachine

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Posted 06 June 2014 - 12:50

The remains of Hirvonen's car
http://instagram.com/p/o5q3W8FkJa/

#933 BRG

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Posted 07 June 2014 - 19:04

So the usual order prevails.  Ogier takes the lead as Latvala is delayed (not his fault for once) and Kubica is out.



#934 DrProzac

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Posted 07 June 2014 - 19:25

Damn, Robert was doing really good, I was starting to think hell manage to finish 5th. At least he didn't roll but simply hit some rock which wasn't clearly visible.

 

Shame for Hirvonen, it was a really unplesent sight.


Edited by DrProzac, 07 June 2014 - 20:22.


#935 BRG

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Posted 07 June 2014 - 19:34

Could be a good 5th for Elfyn Evans, which will take him up to 7th, ahead of Neuville in the championship standings.



#936 HaydenFan

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Posted 07 June 2014 - 19:39

Watching X-Games rallycross and have finally lost all respect for Nelson Piquet Jr. Still a fast driver, well one that was fast enough to get to F1 with a little help of the name, but he doesn't keep it together around traffic. 

 

Maybe stage rally would suit him better? 



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Posted 07 June 2014 - 23:57

Damn, Robert was doing really good, I was starting to think hell manage to finish 5th. At least he didn't roll but simply hit some rock which wasn't clearly visible.

 

But it's still an in-car error, sadly. I also thought that he'd finish in 5th here.

 

Regarding Piquet jr, I also noticed our Norwegian commentators went totally bananas when there was contact between him and Isachsen, but at least that one wasn't that bad. If it had been a purpose built RX track (the ones Tanner Foust praises so extremely much) it would most likely not been that bad.
But when you take RX, and try to fit in the x-games style, these thing will happen. As easy as that.


Edited by Myrvold, 07 June 2014 - 23:58.


#938 DrProzac

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:18

It is, though it looks like a slight one so I would consider it rather unfortunate. A slight cut in the wrong place. And I think there's progress, considering the last two rallies and what was before (in WRC, not WRC2 of course).

 

 

I didn't watch Piquet in RX, but I doubt that rallying would suit him better. It's very difficult for a racing driver to make a switch, you need to gain a lot of experience.


Edited by DrProzac, 08 June 2014 - 10:19.


#939 MadYarpen

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 13:57

Good news - waiting for other manufacturers!

 

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/114383



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#940 Myrvold

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 20:18

It is, though it looks like a slight one so I would consider it rather unfortunate. A slight cut in the wrong place. And I think there's progress, considering the last two rallies and what was before (in WRC, not WRC2 of course).

Though he was the only one (?) - and the progress is then that he crashes out just once?
 

Ok, that's a bit unfair, but he still have some rallyes he have to do, without crashing, to even get down to 1 crash per event on average. That's just not good enough.



#941 DrProzac

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 19:00

"Though he was the only one" - I don't understand :)

 

Not crashing in one rally and than loosing a wheel due to a small mistake (plus having quite good pace) vs having a big off and rolling the car or ending up in a ditch, I'd call it progress :p


Edited by DrProzac, 11 June 2014 - 19:00.


#942 BRG

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 19:15

Progress, yes, but he is still 24 pts behind his fellow rookie and sort-of team-mate Evans. He needs to put in some clean runs.

 

Anyway, good news from Wales - the 2014 route is out and includes a lot of classic RAC stages, more night time running and generally another step back towards a proper Rally GB.



#943 Muppetmad

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 09:57

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/114425

 

This is absolutely horrifying.



#944 MCH

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 10:14

WRC's soul has left the buidling, sad sad sad. 

 

Convoluted bs format :/ 



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Posted 13 June 2014 - 10:27

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/114425

This is absolutely horrifying.

And far to complicated. It's such a shame the sport is being ruined like this. I bet this format being implemented was part of the conditions for VW continuing as the boss of VW has been championing this from the start. :|

#946 AlexLangheck

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 10:34

Sack them all off - get the ACO to run the WRC......



#947 Imateria

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 11:07

And just when I thought we were finally getting some interest back into this sport. I think I'll be giving up completely on it next year.



#948 ClubmanGT

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 11:09

I too am done with rallying. I'm not going to watch a three day event decided by a shootout and I'm not going to stand in a forest to watch irrelevant stages if the whole event is going to be decided by handbrake turns in a carpark. 

 

This is basically the end of the sport as we know it. It's just simply not rallying anymore. 


Edited by ClubmanGT, 13 June 2014 - 11:09.


#949 noikeee

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 11:47

I too am done with rallying. I'm not going to watch a three day event decided by a shootout and I'm not going to stand in a forest to watch irrelevant stages if the whole event is going to be decided by handbrake turns in a carpark. 

 

This is basically the end of the sport as we know it. It's just simply not rallying anymore. 

 

x2

 

If this happens I'm gonna stop giving a crap about the WRC.



#950 rhukkas

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 14:48

I think this is a brilliant idea, might spark my interest again