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[Jackmancer]

Sauber will show the C33, the 2014 challenger, to the world today. The car will be driven by Adrian Sutil and Esteban Gutiérrez, with testdriver Giedo van de Garde.

 

Adrian Sutil said he had no problem fitting the seat, since his predecessor, Niko Hulkenberg, is of similar height.

It'll be interesting to see how they made the sidepods. Ferrari's 2014 challenger has very small sidepods, compared to the 2014 McLaren and Williams, and Sauber, with the same Ferrari engine, already had tiny sidepods in 2013.

 

The team didn't specify a launch-time clearly on the site, but in some reports I found the time 16:00 CET. Launch will be live and interviews will be put on their YouTube channel.

 

 

 

The car has passed the crash test, as early as December 11 last year, being the first team to do so.

 

Edited by Jackmancer, 26 January 2014 - 09:03.

[FullThrottleF1]

Quite late for unveiling isn't it?

I'm sure the C33 will fufill its destiny to be solidly midfield.

[F1FanAJ]

About the nose:

 

"Perhaps the most visually striking element of the Sauber C33-Ferrari is the very low, snout-like nose. The front wing pylon’s attachments on the nose have been moved out as far as possible allowed by the regulations to channel as much air as possible under the car."

 

Does this mean it is the same nose as the McLaren, or do I understand this wrong? 

[Kerch]

About the nose:

 

"Perhaps the most visually striking element of the Sauber C33-Ferrari is the very low, snout-like nose. The front wing pylon’s attachments on the nose have been moved out as far as possible allowed by the regulations to channel as much air as possible under the car."

 

Does this mean it is the same nose as the McLaren, or do I understand this wrong? 

 

That description certainly fits the McLaren. 

[mclarennut]

By the look of the cover shape I would say it has the same nose as the McLaren but more a drop like the ferrari on the front. 

Edited by mclarennut, 26 January 2014 - 11:55.

[seahawk]

more like Ferrari

[Guizotia]

 

 

I hope that's not their crash test dummy, because that artist's mannequin is about 13 inches tall.

 

 

Hopefully the car is both:

 

a) made to a human scale

 

b) crafted by people with more attention to detail than demonstrated in that picture

[dau]

That looks like the Force India nose. 

[CrashPad]

Pretty, if that's real 

[steferrari]

Maybe it's the perspective, but those sidepods looks fat.

(If the picture is real of course).

[katmen]

[maverick69]

Sauber always make nice looking cars....... and have somehow manged to make the wang look (relatively) acceptable   

[katmen]

finally pretty front !

 

sidepods seems a little larger than ferrari

 

roll structure very triangle interesting 

[FTD]

http://www.sauberf1t...er-c33-ferrari/

[dau]

Sauber always make nice looking cars....... and have somehow manged to make the wang look (relatively) acceptable   

You should wait for the front view, this perspective is pretty forgiving. Should look like what Scarbs drew up a few weeks ago:

 

 

 

Edited by dau, 26 January 2014 - 13:47.

[aray]

their nose solution seems visually 'normal'...

[Gilles4Ever]

finally pretty front !

 

sidepods seems a little larger than ferrari

 

roll structure very triangle interesting 

Looks like the roll structure isn't an air intake? 

[katmen]

Looks like the roll structure isn't an air intake? 

it is air intake  but very minimal look at frontal of F14T, the ferrari domain

[Gilles4Ever]

Ah I see the top of the triangle is an air intake

[dau]

Played around with the URL on the Sauber site, couldn't find a front view, but there's one from the side:

 

[aray]

so they gonna show only one photo...

[muramasa]

looks nose solution itself is close to scarb's first version.

[Seanspeed]

People are being misled by the angle. The nose is just as bad as on the Williams/FI/McLaren.

[Ali_G]

Played around with the URL on the Sauber site, couldn't find a front view, but there's one from the side:
 

The car don't look great from straight on or 3/4 angle, but the lower noses look fantastic from the side.

[Tourgott]

Yes, it's definitely like the McLaren.

[MustangSally]

It's a very sticker-free look. One hopes they have a budget. Sutil's Medion not very prominent, nor any of vdG's McGregor . . . but may not be final livery of course.

[JHSingo]

 

Really don't get why people claim credit for photographs they weren't responsible for...

 

Still, looks pretty nice from that angle.

[Gilles4Ever]

"@ScarbsF1: Sauber finger nose. ferrari style slim sidepods and rear wing pylons http://t.co/pCSdKvB24h"

[Boing 2]

I love the fakery of some of these car pic angles, even the teams that made them are embarrassed.

[nosecone]

Really don't get why people claim credit for photographs they weren't responsible for...

 

 

 

take a photo draw a arrow in it and claim it's yours... sad...

[OO7]

Sauber always make nice looking cars....... and have somehow manged to make the wang look (relatively) acceptable   

From that angle, it must be added.

[maverick69]

From that angle, it must be added.

I know, I know.

 

I'm just holding out hope 

[clown]

Really don't get why people claim credit for photographs they weren't responsible for...

Here's the original:

[PayasYouRace]

Some interesting features. The nose looks like the McLaren's but a bit chunkier, cruder, more like Scarbs preview sketch. Interesting treatment round the air intake/roll hoop area. Another team with twin RW supports.

[muramasa]

telcel gone?

[Wanderer]

From that angle it looks good indeed.

 

Also like the location with the wind tunnel

[AlexS]

What a poor photo. Why they don't show more? It is just 2 day to the test...

[Sheepmachine]

At last a good looking 2014 f1 car! Its a miracle!

[noikeee]

Hope it's not just the angle, but I'm cautiously optimistic about this being the one decent looking nose so far. Nice car.

 

Of course, watch it being wildly outpaced by the Frankenstein creations of the other teams now.

[sopa]

I like how several teams (Force India, Sauber) have avoided showing a front-end view. I think it should give you a hint that this area isn't particularly pretty then.

[HaydenFan]

telcel gone?

 

Telcel is just a mobile subsidy of Telmex. Nothing truly missing. 

[GhostR]

At last a good looking 2014 f1 car! Its a miracle!

 

You might change your mind once you get a full frontal angle. Looking at the nose closely, I suspect it'll be similar (but cruder) to the McLaren nose solution.

[Jackmancer]

Some interesting features. The nose looks like the McLaren's but a bit chunkier, cruder, more like Scarbs preview sketch. Interesting treatment round the air intake/roll hoop area. Another team with twin RW supports.

 

Same engine and gearbox as Ferrari, including the mounts for those two RW pillars.

[senna da silva]

Car looks great. Really looking forward to seeing these cars on track.

[midgrid]

"@ScarbsF1: Sauber finger nose. ferrari style slim sidepods and rear wing pylons http://t.co/pCSdKvB24h"

So we can conclude that the Ferrari powertrain is the most compact?

[Jackmancer]

So we can conclude that the Ferrari powertrain is the most compact?

 

We haven't seen a Renault-powered car yet. Scarbs is saying he heard rumours that Red Bull is doing something unusual with the gearbox.

[Gridfire]

Higher-res shot from Sauber's facebook page. They really don't want any other angle of that proboscis just yet, it seems. Looks exactly like the McLaren idea but with a more angular construction. Actually really doesn't look that bad from this angle... The angles fit aesthetically with the airbox intake, which is interesting of itself. Suspension looks like it'll be be fairly horizontal but not as much as the McLaren. I'm not sure but the cooling intakes look comparatively small - much like the Ferrari. Does that power-train have some clever trick?

Edited by Gridfire, 26 January 2014 - 16:28.

[midgrid]

We haven't seen a Renault-powered car yet. Scarbs is saying he heard rumours that Red Bull is doing something unusual with the gearbox.

Indeed, getting ahead of myself a little...

[Jackmancer]

Nice detail on the Sauber; air intake, props for gearbox;

[keiichi]

It's hard to judge from this angle of the photo but I'm not sure if the sidepods are quite as slim as the ones on the F14 T. Maybe something in between, but yeah, might have something to do with the Ferrari engine's packaging and cooling solutions.