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#51 wj_gibson

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 14:25

Take off the nose protrusion and it very much resembles a McLaren-Merc from about 1999.



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#52 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 14:26

Reminds me of the West Mclaren Mercedes' of 1997-2004.

#53 PayasYouRace

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 14:26

Maybe it's the No.4 but there's something about an early 90s Tyrrell about it.



#54 Petroltorque

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 14:28

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I like it. Clean design, simple livery, though i'm not sure on the white. Looks about two decades ahead of the Caterham on this pic.

Exactly. I know this is not the place to discuss it but what was Caterham thinking?


Edited by Petroltorque, 01 February 2014 - 07:37.


#55 Doughnut King

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 14:31

Based on the number of corporate logos, I'm expecting Marussia having ceased operations before 2015. Shame.

 

If they hadn't finished 10th last year, would they be still around now?

 

On the other hand, most of the cars are looking bare this year.


Edited by Doughnut King, 30 January 2014 - 14:32.


#56 Ali_G

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 14:33

One of the nicest interpretations of the penis nose regs, but it also reinforces Adrian Newey's fear that cars will submarine/lever in collisions.
 
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The solution ? Force the bulkhead all the way down to the level of the floor.

#57 dau

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 14:34

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Hmm, that nose extension looks pretty fragile. Could they be one of the teams that are rumoured to be in trouble for their nose interpretation? Just compare that thin bridge to the Williams':

 

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#58 wj_gibson

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 14:34

WHy exactly is F1 finding it so difficult to attract sponsors? Even in the early 90s, when a number of teams went out of business, the likes of Tyrrell had good levels of (non-tobacco) sponsorship.



#59 dau

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 14:37

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That looks pretty cool.


Edited by dau, 30 January 2014 - 14:38.


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#60 Donkey

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 14:37

I think they could be a dark horse to pick up some strong results in the early season flyaway races, especially if the Renault engines are still struggling with reliability.

 

Marussia were good at getting their cars to the finish last year, Max Chilton's record run of consecutive finishes was impressive for a small team.



#61 PayasYouRace

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 14:38

The solution ? Force the bulkhead all the way down to the level of the floor.

 

I know you're fond of that. You've been banging on about it at every opportunity for months. But the solution to the worry that the front of the car might submarine under the rear of another is not to make the nose as low as possible.

 

I still maintain the fear of submarining is grossly exaggerated.



#62 Kerch

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 14:40

If Caterham are slower, it will be pretty embarrassing for them given the extent to which they sacrificed the look of their car. The Marussia is a beauty, as usual.

 

If Marussia or Caterham don't pick up some points at the start of the season when the reliability in general is expected to be bad, I doubt they ever will. 



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Posted 30 January 2014 - 14:46

Pretty small sidepods, especially compared against that Caterbrick:


Indeed, but the length of the Ferrari/Marussia should be kept in mind as well.

#64 TC3000

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 14:53

neat and tidy looking - "no frills" car - well done Marussia, hope they can get it running, and may pick up a point or two this season.

 

The Caterham, better be quick(er), otherwise it's not just ugly, but slow too, which would be double bad --> Super GAU like



#65 dau

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 14:55

Indeed, but the length of the Ferrari/Marussia should be kept in mind as well.

Sure, that's going to add some weight, but the Caterham doesn't really look like a lightweight car either. Though they could put some helium balloons in those sidepod hangars, i guess.


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#66 Shiroo

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 15:02

well definetly it looks better than Caterham. Probably one of better looking cars on the grid.

And it looks more.. hm tight than Caterham? I expect them to be faster out of 2.



#67 Ali_G

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 15:04

I know you're fond of that. You've been banging on about it at every opportunity for months. But the solution to the worry that the front of the car might submarine under the rear of another is not to make the nose as low as possible.
 
I still maintain the fear of submarining is grossly exaggerated.


F1 had low noses from about 1971 to 1990.  I have never heard of or seen a crash in this period where a car submarined under the other.

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 15:05

 

 

Best looking car of the finger noses. 



#69 PayasYouRace

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 15:05

F1 had low noses from about 1971 to 1990.  I have never heard of or seen a crash in this period where a car submarined under the other.

 

That's what I've been saying.



#70 Ali_G

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 15:17

I would imagine that the nose cone would collapse before the car in front could get on top of the monocoque anyways. 



#71 10e10

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 15:26

Beautiful car! Hope they finally get into points. Was this Marussia still projected with McLaren's wind tunnel?



#72 froggy22

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 15:41

Marussia/Virgin have always designed simple and neat cars. Good to see a car with a paint scheme that matches the lines of the car.



#73 Wingcommander

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 16:00

Beautiful car! Hope they finally get into points. Was this Marussia still projected with McLaren's wind tunnel?

 

I believe so. 



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Posted 30 January 2014 - 16:12

 

@Marussia_F1Team: "Nice round of applause from the grandstand as @maxchilton completes a fifth and final lap in the new #MR03. A good debut!"

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 16:12

I have a feeling Caterham will be all alone at the back of the field :lol:

Real nice packaging!

Edited by F.M., 30 January 2014 - 16:13.


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 17:02

Pretty small sidepods, especially compared against that Caterbrick:

 

 

From what's been happening in thesting, that may be because they have a cool Ferarri powertrain and not the Renault furnace.



#77 Wiggy

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 17:25

Ferrari engines this year, and they've been working on the car since 2012... i REALLY hope for good things for this team. I remember being at Spa last year and everyone laughing at how far behind chilton was at the start of the race... hope for better things in 2014



#78 Exb

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 17:58

The Marussia looks great live at the track. The livery is really eyecatching and its very difficult to see its nose when its zooming round anyway, I had to zoom in on one of my photos to check what it was like. Great work by all the Marussia folks after a difficult start at the factory and I look forward to seeing more of it tomorrow.

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 18:01

That air intake on top of the sidepods is interesting but for aero not too good solution ( for cooling i assume ) 



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#80 F.M.

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 18:11

That air intake on top of the sidepods is interesting but for aero not too good solution ( for cooling i assume )

Air intake on top of the sidepods? Or do you just mean the one under the roll hoop intake? Many if not all teams feature that one in some sort of form/size.

#81 Rentta

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 18:17

Air intake on top of the sidepods? Or do you just mean the one under the roll hoop intake? Many if not all teams feature that one in some sort of form/size.

Nope that black hole on top of the sidepod it is clearly visible 



#82 muramasa

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 18:30

Nope that black hole on top of the sidepod it is clearly visible 

could that be a reflection of T-cam?



#83 SCUDmissile

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 18:34

Predicted good things for Marussia, hope they don't disappoint. Hope they build on this tomorrow. Their packaging is also neat so hopefully this is a good indicator of the Ferrari engine.


Edited by SCUDmissile, 30 January 2014 - 18:34.


#84 midgrid

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 18:38

Best-looking car of 2014 in my opinion (pending McLaren/Williams livery changes).  Also appears to be much better packaged than the Caterham.  I can see this car scoring points if it achieves decent reliability,



#85 F.M.

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 18:45

Nope that black hole on top of the sidepod it is clearly visible

Reflection. Nothing to see on these pics
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Edited by F.M., 30 January 2014 - 18:49.


#86 Rentta

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 19:09

Reflection. Nothing to see on these pics
Ah ok my eyes failed me. Thanks for clearing that up for me



#87 Kobasmashi

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 20:15

I think Marussia has just become everyone's second favourite team this year.  :up:



#88 Imateria

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 20:59

Surprisingly well packaged back end on the Marussia, but I hope they've got more coming for the front wing, those endplates look decidedly simple.



#89 AlexS

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 14:40

Water intercooler in Marussia Ferrari engine

 

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#90 dau

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 22:26

Everyone who thought the Marussia looked unreasonably long seems to have been right. Marussia lists the wheelbase as 3700mm on their site, that would be a whopping 20cm longer than the other cars, at least according to this wheelbase estimation on F1Technical. He also did the MR03 and got 3695mm, so that would be confirming the official Marussia number. Interesting that they are the only team that went that route, all others seem to be within a 100mm range.



#91 turssi

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 23:15

I hope they beat Toro Rosso this season!

#92 Petroltorque

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 06:17

Everyone who thought the Marussia looked unreasonably long seems to have been right. Marussia lists the wheelbase as 3700mm on their site, that would be a whopping 20cm longer than the other cars, at least according to this wheelbase estimation on F1Technical. He also did the MR03 and got 3695mm, so that would be confirming the official Marussia number. Interesting that they are the only team that went that route, all others seem to be within a 100mm range.

John McQuilliam in an interview in Race Engineering said the design team put an emphasis on mechanical grip/ performance. A longer wheelbase means the driver is fighting a lower angular moment during cornering. That should pay dividends on tracks where mechanical grip is at a premium; Monte Carlo. Montreal, Singapore.



#93 dau

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 13:37

John McQuilliam in an interview in Race Engineering said the design team put an emphasis on mechanical grip/ performance. A longer wheelbase means the driver is fighting a lower angular moment during cornering. That should pay dividends on tracks where mechanical grip is at a premium; Monte Carlo. Montreal, Singapore.

Hmm, that's strange. A longer car means either more weight or compromised chassis stiffness, so i'm not sure that really pays off at tracks where mechanical grip is important. It does however have aero advantages and allows for better packaging which should help them regain downforce at the rear.



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Posted 08 February 2014 - 18:41

Hmm, that's strange. A longer car means either more weight or compromised chassis stiffness, so i'm not sure that really pays off at tracks where mechanical grip is important. It does however have aero advantages and allows for better packaging which should help them regain downforce at the rear.

The explanation is based on simple mechanics. The turning moment is proportional to force applied and the length of the lever arm. Assuming the fulcrum is the front wheels and the lever arm the wheel base; to turn through the same angle requires less input in the longer lever arm. Less turning input represents a more stable platform.



#95 FullThrottleF1

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 18:45

That Marussia looks so good. I can't wait to see on track and hopefully score a few points! :cool:



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 20:47

A good day today after a troubled testing period so far.  The fastest time looks decent, although I wasn't following the test live so I don't know about the context.  Can Marussia challenge the midfield this season?



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 21:35

A good day today after a troubled testing period so far.  The fastest time looks decent, although I wasn't following the test live so I don't know about the context.  Can Marussia challenge the midfield this season?

I hope so midgrid. After Nick Wirthless left, there's been a quiet yet determined approach. The season they beat caterham they have old fernandes throwing his toys out the pram saying he'll leave. Marussia are old Manor and they are racers. I hope they'll scrape a point here and there, but based on previous years my optimism is in check to think it'll be another 0 point year for both teams unfortunately. Still, who knows, I don't know if anyone's been at the test and has seen how they cope round the corners? The ferrari engine sounds almost on par, although what does anyone know I suppose!


Edited by lambylamby, 28 February 2014 - 21:35.


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Posted 01 March 2014 - 15:28

Solid performance today, one run at the end and a second ahead of caterham, definitely more out of the performance, it's going to be a good year...



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Posted 02 March 2014 - 18:30

Taking the 'Chilton 1 second' (similar to Alonso 6/10ths but opposite) I would say that marussia is pretty damn fast....



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Posted 02 March 2014 - 18:52

That car makes me thing about legs of model from Whitesnake "Here I Go Again" video. You look and look but it seems to never end.