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#101 V8 Fireworks

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 05:12

Anyway, back to Adelaide. Anybody who didn't hold their breath as the Volvo snuck down the inside needs to have a lie down in a dark room. That was racing!

 

That was indeed racing, however the fan interest and passion is certainly much less than the days when Skaife and Ambrose were racing in a field of 32 Holdens and Fords by me reckoning.  Very few children waving Ford, Holden (Mercedes, Nismo or Polestar) flags anymore.

 

http://youtu.be/wcq-y1tBk4U?t=38m58s

 

It is a really a case of "who cares" nowadays -> no passion => less fans => less interest => pay television obvilivion => champcar => bankruptcy.  :well:

 

The cars may look different but the way they drive is quite homogeneous, and not that interesting.

 

The field of 25 cars is pathetic, and many teams are certainly struggling without the healthy series income (50% of the budget for some entries) that used to be provided from the strong TV deals.


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#102 Ian G

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 10:40

Yeah,probaly agree with most of the previous post,not really into Supercars but i enjoyed Adelaide.If they keep the great racing up along with enough sub plots for a Soapie i reckon the TV ratings will claw their way back to the top just in time for a switch to Pay TV.



#103 GBarclay

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 17:56

Any US fans found TV coverage for Supercar 2014 yet?

 

I know there were some races shown delayed on Fox Sports 1 last year, but cannot find any references either on the FS1 site, or on my DVR programming. 

 

TIA



#104 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 09:15

I have read this thread with great interest, all the discussions about DOHC, transverse engines, AWD, flatplane crank V8s, etc. Actually, I'm lying, it was so tedious mainly because it is missing the point.

 

The thing about modern touring car/saloon car/sedan racing is that it is all about providing a safe spectacle. There's been a move by many major tin top series to make cars safer and at the same time provide a set of regulations that can equalise performance. Throw in shared components to lower costs and you have your modern racing touring car. So if you are worried that a car's performance has been throttled or a car doesn't relate to the road car it is supposed to represent, then Im afraid that's just tough.

 

In Britain, we are looking forward to a 30 plus grid of 'NGTC' spec cars this season in the BTCC. Cars from MG, Honda, Ford, Toyota, Mercedes, Audi and Proton. A set of rules that promotes development of diverse cars through shared components - sub frames, gearboxes, wheels, wiring looms. Hell, if you haven't got the right engine for the job you can buy an unbadged spec engine from the series organisers and plug it in. But you won't get people bleating about how it doesn't compare to the road car, mainly because the spectacle is worth the conceit.

 

About the only main touring series which considers the purity of the cars recently was the WTCC, which in recently has been all about which was the fastest guy in a Chevrolet. Now that's dull. 

 

It's all about the brand these days, not what's under the bonnet.The biggest 'win on Sunday, sell on Monday' event is the Le Mans 24 hours. Are you telling me you can get a Porsche 919 in the show rooms? Now I'm partial to WEC mainly because of the technological challenge, but I watch Touring Cars for the spectacle.

 

Anyway, back to Adelaide. Anybody who didn't hold their breath as the Volvo snuck down the inside needs to have a lie down in a dark room. That was racing!

McLaughlin snuck down the inside because Whincup made a mistake. Not something he does very often. A very good drive from Scott and car from the Volvo which is immediatly on the pace.



#105 Richard T

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 14:43

Is there no coverage from the V8s in Melbourne? Cant find it anywhere  :| 



#106 Wuzak

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 20:16

Is there no coverage from the V8s in Melbourne? Cant find it anywhere  :|


Usually part of the Channel 10 F1 coverage.

 

Is it for points this year? Or is that next year?



#107 Richard T

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 21:12

Usually part of the Channel 10 F1 coverage.

 

Is it for points this year? Or is that next year?

 

Ah, alright. thanks!

 

No championship points this year, only a "GP weekend winner" with double points in race 4



#108 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 09:08

Caruso in theNissan on pole, Van Giz Holden 2nd and McLaughlin Volvo third. Mostert 12th first Ford and Davison Benz 13th. 

We will have bleats of unfair coming from the ford teams by the end of the weekend!



#109 krapmeister

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 09:38

Nissan on the jungle juice this weekend?

#110 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 22:23

Without knocking Michael Caruso he is the least favored of the datsun drivers,, and gives them their first? pole. Actually the favor of Nissan drivers is reversed in this event so far.



#111 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 22:25

Also interestingly a local Volvo dealer is advertising big on the S60 supercar experience. The car that has no relevance at all to the road S60.



#112 Brother Fox

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 07:17

Still on that? How much relevance do the Ford and Holden really have to what I can go buy tomorrow?

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 07:33

Also interestingly a local Volvo dealer is advertising big on the S60 supercar experience. The car that has no relevance at all to the road S60.

 

mate none of these cars have any relevance to what you can buy. Get over it.



#114 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 09:50

Lets get something very straight now. I agree none of the cars have much relevance to the road cars. BUT you can buy a V8 rear drive Holden Ford and Benz. So there is some small relevance. A Datsun and Ovlov are front drive V6 cars. So have absolutely no relevance whatever. And advertising the cars with Supercar pedigree is libellous!



#115 krapmeister

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 09:51

So sue them! :p

#116 Brother Fox

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 10:22

By the way, can Van Gisbergen do anything wrong at the moment.

#117 krapmeister

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 10:30

I am sure - legal action notwithstanding - he's glad he left Stone Bros/Erebus...

#118 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 00:06

I am sure - legal action notwithstanding - he's glad he left Stone Bros/Erebus...

He proved his decision was the right one. He has won races and generally been on the pace unlike his previous team. Rumor is that Tim Slade wanted out too. The shift to Benz was not mentioned when he signed the contract.

As for this weekend  the choreographer may cause an upset because it is someone elses turn to win



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Posted 16 March 2014 - 02:33

Have to say that the first few laps of todays race has been pretty good stuff so far.

And the rest was pretty good too - becoming a bit of a fan of the Volvo tbh :)

Edited by krapmeister, 16 March 2014 - 02:52.


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#120 LoudHoward

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 02:54

Double points is so -_- Guy that leads every single lap of every single race of the weekend, drops down to 5th or something in the early laps of the final race and suddenly he's not leading the weekend anymore lol.



#121 Brother Fox

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 03:26

And we have a full season of F1 to lead to this too

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 10:55

Nice races over the weekend,happy to see Volvo's maiden victory :clap: also happy with Merc's performance


Edited by Nutella76, 17 March 2014 - 10:57.


#123 stuartbrs

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 12:08

The Merc is easily the best sounding car in the field... easily.



#124 DS27

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 19:05

Enjoyed the racing at the weekend - an unexpected bonus of having to get BT Sport to watch Moto GP means I now get to watch V8 Supercars in HD.

#125 krapmeister

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 11:40

Apparently Betty Klimenko of Erebus Motorsport has spent between '30 and 40 million in a year on the team' and is willing to dump Merc for another manufacturer...

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#126 Ian G

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 11:55

Yeah,whatever the correct figure is its multi-millions and the Team is a bit of a joke to the established players,lots of pit talk Merc. Management(not sure if its OZ or Germany or both) will be taking steps to end the embarrassment so no surprise if Betty has another manufacturers body panels on next year or gives it away altogether.



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Posted 02 May 2014 - 12:12

That is just an insane amount of money she's blown - especially seeing how well GRM/Volvo have done for what I imagine is substantially less dollars spent...

#128 Ian G

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 11:21

Yeah again,Craig Gore did the same and got into major trouble,its a bottomless pit if your not at the pointy end of the field.



#129 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 23:16

Reading Speed Cafe this morning and the first story is that it appears the  V8 Supercars giggle session at Eastern Creek will clash with the 12 hour at Bathurst. Which will preclude those drivers from competing at the 12 hour.

A masterpiece of Stupidcars doing what they want and bugger the sport. Supposedly about TV with the cricket World Cup. One is a proper major race meet, the other a publicity [giggle] event. . One hopes that CAMS [remember them] actually refuses them the date. Though since it is only a test session they probably cannot. I forget the wording but you cannot run two major meetings in one state on the same date. The test session is not a race, just a giggle session where no real testing really happens.

Personally I feel the whole deal is a waste of money for the Stupidcar teams and from what I gather many would prefer not to be there. Run it midweek again if they have too. The Supercar drivers are actually proffessionals earning a dollar or 3 [probably nowhere near what the top drivers earn. Though I suspect the lesser drivers could use the income and variety too] driving at Bathurst so could nearly be called a restraint of trade. That I would love to see!

Warburton [CEO] really has a lot to answer for if this happens, and it will further isolate Supercars from real motorsport in this country.



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Posted 22 June 2014 - 23:21

Yeah again,Craig Gore did the same and got into major trouble,its a bottomless pit if your not at the pointy end of the field.

Its a bottomless pit at the front too!  Though some teams do use restraint. I suspect BJR spend less money to run 3 cars near the front than Betty spends to run at the back with 2. And they have yet to resolve the 'power steering' issues those cars have had since day 1. Did the PS issues at Darwin saturday x2 result in engine changes?