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#1 WeeScot

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 15:06

I wanted to share with you a little "project" I just completed: conversion to digital MP3 file (with considerable editing and voice-over introduction and summation) of the 120-minute cassette tape recording of my experiences at the 1968 German Grand Prix.

I remembered that I had that tape (well, rather, that my mother had it somewhere in the midst of hundreds of classical music tapes my father had recorded over the years...) when I was engaged in a discussion at srmz.net ("Colin Chapman - Team Lotus 1968") about Grand Prix heroes of yesteryear. Another SRMZ member wrote he had actually been there himself that Sunday in August 1968, standing, he estimated, no more than 10 or so meters in front of where my mom and dad and I sat in the main grandstand opposite the pits. He challenged me to find and convert that tape so I could share it with him and others as an MP3 file.

After accepting his challenge, I was afraid I'd embellished my memories, that I'd find a more pedestrian recording of mundane sounds and commentary than I had built up in my mind over the years. It is my great pleasure and privilege to share with you the edited 1:01:13 result of my labor of love and nostalgia. Thanks to a young German friend (DM2zzion) who uploaded if for me, the 160 kbps version can be accessed from the link below. My contextual introduction for the listener begins 2:50 into the recording, after sounds of the start of the race. 

 

https://soundcloud.c...memories-of-the

(Yes, that incomplete sentence represents the complete link.) Very attractive presentation, I think. I hope you'll enjoy it, maybe even as much as I enjoyed putting it together!


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#2 2F-001

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 15:22

Hello and welcome...

 

As 'first posts' go, that is rather special - I've only heard the first fifteen minutes or so thus far, but am looking forward to the rest.

Thank you for sharing your memories.

 

(I'm assuming - given the adult voice - that you re-recorded the voiceover sometimes afterwards? Given the impressive sound quality, I further assume you must have has some serious plans beforehand to record the event as a basis for a project?


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 16:06

Having listened further, I realize that one of the voices must be your father's (you sound fairly similar so that confused me a little).

What a wonderful momento of the event...



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 16:53

(I'm assuming - given the adult voice - that you re-recorded the voiceover sometimes afterwards? Given the impressive sound quality, I further assume you must have has some serious plans beforehand to record the event as a basis for a project?

Yes, last month I used a cassette-to-CD converter my mother bought, then ripped the CDs to my computer, and used the free WavePad Sound Editor I downloaded to edit it down by half. Then I recorded my introduction (2:50-7:56) over some of the racing sounds I copied/pasted at 5% volume, and finished it off with some concluding remarks (59:07-end). The sound quality? That's thanks to Grundig and Agfa, circa 1968! No "serious plans" other than capturing the experience for posterity. Thanks for the compliments! 



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 16:56

Having listened further, I realize that one of the voices must be your father's (you sound fairly similar so that confused me a little).

What a wonderful momento of the event...

Yes, my father provided all of the race narration. I was truly one VERY lucky young man, and I still shake my head (I'm doing it right now) at the memory of that great good fortune. It didn't hurt that my father had a very expansive and engaging personality; most people wouldn't have attracted the interest and attention of the Heinrichs in that little restaurant. I like to think that he passed on some of that charm to me, as well, so maybe I should take at least part of the credit for "making my own luck," but I wish he was still alive today to experience this remembrance with me.



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 17:45

I was wondering whether to ask if your father was still with us - one can sense he was a warm character and a loving Dad.

You were doing pretty well too, holding your own with those little interviews - can you imagine that being possible today?!

My father (still around at 88 and still my - fairly inactive - racing buddy) is much more reserved and reticent in character and would not have engaged with strangers like that, so it was rather later that I became friends with any people who were actually involved in racing.

 

I'm just a couple of years younger than you (according to your profile) and my father introduced me to 'live' motor sport in '67 (or therabouts0 but it was '69 before we got to a Grand Prix. Shamefully, being so relatively close, I didn't get to the 'Ring until the early '90s, but have since driven countless laps on the Nordschleife on track days and public days (the golden days for that are over though - way too expensive and too risky these days, given the liability implications). I know of number of 'Ring enthusiasts who'll be charmed by your recording.



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 17:49

Great stuff Johnny :up:



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 19:37

It's brilliant WeeScot!  I thought I'd tune in for a few minutes and ended up riveted for the full hour.  Great driver interviews, they must be treasured memories.

 

We're contemporaries.  I'm a June 1955 boy so a few months younger, and like you was transfixed by John Frankenheimer's epic Grand Prix, and for some years before that by my Wrenn 152 slot car set and then my Scalextric "Set 60"..

 

I was privileged as a ten year old to start visiting nearby Oulton Park in 1965, and saw the greats in their three litre machines from 1966 onwards, and saw my first Grand Prix at Silverstone in 1969.  Like you, I'm fortunate enough to have memories of getting close to a hero, in my case Jackie Stewart as my Dad had a very tenuous connection with Dunlop's Alec Meskell, who was a key man in the tyre team. 

 

I recall picking up my "Motoring News" and devouring the race report of the 1968 German Grand Prix - your audio is a great step back in time for those who weren't there - many thanks for completing your project.  :up:

 

Rob :wave:



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 21:37

Then I recorded my introduction (2:50-7:56) over some of the racing sounds I copied/pasted at 5% volume, and finished it off with some concluding remarks (59:07-end).


Suggestion: finish the recording by fading up into 85% racing sounds (or whatever the level it is just before the onset of distortion) for at least 20 minutes   :up:  :cool:



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:17

You were doing pretty well too, holding your own with those little interviews - can you imagine that being possible today?!

 

..........

 

I know of number of 'Ring enthusiasts who'll be charmed by your recording.

 

No, such impromptu interviews definitely would NOT be possible today. As Jens Lindblad (of SimHQMotorsports.com) wrote me on srmz.net: 

 

"...the entire sense of drama and the exotic notion of a tightly knit travelling band of racing gypsies, yet accessible to a boy with a tape recorder...... wow, I wish some of that feeling was present in today's F1."

 

Happy for you that you still have your father. Mine never went to another race, but he did indulge my obsession with a couple of coffee table books; and, when they were in the UK in 1998 for a conference, he and my mother managed to find the Stewart Grand Prix facilities in Milton Keynes, where they were given a tour by Sir Jackie's secretary and bought me a hat and tie!

 

I wish I could drive the Nordschleife (or ride it on a sportbike). That and attending a TT are on my bucket list.

 

I hope you'll point the "Ring enthusiasts" you know to my little recording!



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:27

It's brilliant WeeScot!  I thought I'd tune in for a few minutes and ended up riveted for the full hour.  Great driver interviews, they must be treasured memories.

 

Like you, I'm fortunate enough to have memories of getting close to a hero, in my case Jackie Stewart as my Dad had a very tenuous connection with Dunlop's Alec Meskell, who was a key man in the tyre team. 

 

Rob, thanks! I was a Jim Clark fan until that devastating day in April '68. JYS didn't really catch my attention until he won the Dutch GP. Before that, I associated him more with Scott Stoddard and Jordan BRM than with Ken Tyrrell and the Matra-Ford. LOL. But after that memorable weekend in August, I was a Stewart fan all the way!


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:30

Suggestion: finish the recording by fading up into 85% racing sounds (or whatever the level it is just before the onset of distortion) for at least 20 minutes   :up:  :cool:

 

That's a GREAT idea; don't know why I didn't think of it myself, except that by then I was anxious to wrap things up and upload my recording for others to enjoy. Bringing back the sounds of the start of the race would be the right way to finish, just like that final scene in Grand Prix, with Pete Aron standing on the empty Monza starting grid. 



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 08:25

That's a GREAT idea; don't know why I didn't think of it myself, except that by then I was anxious to wrap things up and upload my recording for others to enjoy. Bringing back the sounds of the start of the race would be the right way to finish, just like that final scene in Grand Prix, with Pete Aron standing on the empty Monza starting grid.


Ohhh yes! you could use a short sound bite from the Grand Prix theme as a prologue...then build volume to the start of the race sounds (and make it LOUD!) :cool:



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 10:20

WOW! Thank you for sharing this fantastic piece of history. I met several of these drivers at Levin Tasman meetings but never had the courage to converse after asking for autographs. Such access is unimaginable today.  



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 14:35

Wonderful stuff. Particularly like JYS' victory speech at the end and hearing Pedro. Different days... Thank you Wee Scot!



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 15:05

Absolutely brilliant. I like to play audiobooks when I'm in the workshop, so now my afternoon is complete - some technical drawing, a little machining and a marvellous piece of history to listen to. :up:



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 15:29

Thanks, guys! Every time I read one of your comments, I get a little endorphin boost!

 

@ charles r: You've got to watch a great 30-minute piece put together by Gulf on the 1970 John Wyer WSC team:

 

http://srmz.net/inde...wtopic=9836&hl=

 

The interviews with Pedro (and Jo Siffert), the film clips of Porsche 917 and 908 action, and particularly John Wyer's comments are wonderful. Make sure you check out Pedro in a suit and tie, and--at 5:43 and again at 19:01--in his Deerstalker hat!

Great review of Pedro's incredible performance at Brands Hatch.

I was delighted to hear John Wyer repeatedly praise Pedro's skills; I hadn't realized he considered Pedro the premier driver (at least in terms of outright speed) in the team. I have to find that passport photo he game me when we had lunch together on August 3rd, 1968...

A great retrospective from Gulf.



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 16:39

Thanks, guys! Every time I read one of your comments, I get a little endorphin boost!

 

@ charles r: You've got to watch a great 30-minute piece put together by Gulf on the 1970 John Wyer WSC team:

 

http://srmz.net/inde...wtopic=9836&hl=

 

The interviews with Pedro (and Jo Siffert), the film clips of Porsche 917 and 908 action, and particularly John Wyer's comments are wonderful. Make sure you check out Pedro in a suit and tie, and--at 5:43 and again at 19:01--in his Deerstalker hat!

Great review of Pedro's incredible performance at Brands Hatch.

I was delighted to hear John Wyer repeatedly praise Pedro's skills; I hadn't realized he considered Pedro the premier driver (at least in terms of outright speed) in the team. I have to find that passport photo he game me when we had lunch together on August 3rd, 1968...

A great retrospective from Gulf.

Another treat! Thank you.