I think Vettel will struggle without the EBD driving aid, since the cars will now be more conventional, and he has shown in the past how he struggled to adapt to a car that did not handle to his liking. Even his own team, and Marko said Webber was better than him in this area during early 2012. Lewis should really thrive in this era imo, and the driving should suit his raw nature, which will be all about balance and control.
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Which drivers do you think will benefit more with the new F1 regulations ?
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, Mar 09 2014 01:21
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Posted 11 March 2014 - 08:15
Alonso. Driver with the best ability to adapt.
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Posted 11 March 2014 - 16:40
I have no idea really but I'll hazard a guess. I think generally it could benefit the slower drivers because the faster guys will be inhibited by the need to be frugal. Having said that I do still think some of the quicker drivers will adjust well and still be at or near the top of the performance league. Those I expect to do well are...
Vettel - Seems like he has a great work ethic and attention to detail. Webber said some of the new requirements are right up Seb's alley.
Alonso - He seems intelligent and adaptable.
Hamilton - He seems adaptable and seems very happy with his new car.
Rosberg - Seems intelligent and disciplined.
Magnussen - Seems like a smart, quick learner. Inexperience will count for less because everyone is inexperienced with the new cars.
Ricciardo - Seems like an adaptable quick learner.
Kvyat - Seems like a fast learner. Inexperience will count for less because everyone is inexperienced with the new cars.
Vergne - Raw speed will be less important. He seemed pretty good on heavy fuel in recent years.
Ericsson - Inexperience will count for less because everyone is inexperienced with the new cars.
Chilton - Speed is less important.
Bianchi - Just get a general gut feeling that he is talented, smart and adaptable.
Those I don't expect to do well...
Raikkonen - Seems to need the car to be perfect. Not adaptable.
Button - Same as Kimi.
Massa - Old dog, new tricks.
Maldonado - Raw pace will be somewhat neutralized by need to be frugal.
Grosjean - Same as Maldonado.
No idea
Kobayashi
Sutil
Hulkenberg
Gutierrez
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Posted 11 March 2014 - 18:30
James Allison from Ferrari said Kimi will benefit as his driving style is smooth and gentle (others have said so too Häkkinen, Salo,Trulli, Villeneuve etc but this comes from inside the Ferrari team so it has even more value).
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Posted 11 March 2014 - 22:38
James Allison from Ferrari said Kimi will benefit as his driving style is smooth and gentle (others have said so too Häkkinen, Salo,Trulli, Villeneuve etc but this comes from inside the Ferrari team so it has even more value).
James Allison doesnt know ****, as bub showed in the post above.
No, I think bub has it right in his first sentence. He has no clue. The slow ones dont get faster because of new regulations. The fast ones stay fast provided the car is up to it (sorry, Seb). About guys like Magnussen, Kvyat and Ericsson its just impossible to tell. Regardless of what these guys have driven or how, the real test starts on Sunday. Some guys live up to it, but most rookies dont!
Personally I hate all these regulations. Its supposed to be the pinnacle, not the mockery of motorsport. But of course I´ll be clued to the tv and hope to see a great show. Cannot remember when everything was so open. Cannot remember when even the starting grid might give no hint as to how they end the race.
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Posted 12 March 2014 - 05:03
Q: Which drivers do you think will benefit more with the new F1 regulations?
A: The ones with Mercedes engines.
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Posted 12 March 2014 - 05:23
Is it just me or are there people here with only short term memory?
Kimi has proven, from his McLaren days, that his F1 car control is right up there. He will benefit.\
(his rally driving, on the other hand...)
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Posted 12 March 2014 - 05:50
Right, yet another take on who is your favorite and whose not....
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Posted 12 March 2014 - 06:00
James Allison from Ferrari said Kimi will benefit as his driving style is smooth and gentle (others have said so too Häkkinen, Salo,Trulli, Villeneuve etc but this comes from inside the Ferrari team so it has even more value).
Any experienced driver worth his salt can do "smooth and gentle". It's more that Kimi cannot do rough and hard, which means he has trouble getting heat into his tyres under certain conditions.
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Posted 12 March 2014 - 06:11
James Allison doesnt know ****, as bub showed in the post above.
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Posted 12 March 2014 - 06:16
Any experienced driver worth his salt can do "smooth and gentle". It's more that Kimi cannot do rough and hard, which means he has trouble getting heat into his tyres under certain conditions.
Sure they can but can they be as fast as Kimi when beeing smooth and gentle. I guess we'll find out very soon...
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Posted 12 March 2014 - 06:17
I think he isn't being serious. 
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Posted 15 March 2014 - 21:45
Well fastest drivers won't have the rear sliding.
I think hamiltons pole lap today proved my point!
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Posted 09 July 2014 - 13:32
Nothing will change, the drivers will still change all the settings on their steering wheels as instructed by the engineers. The fastest drivers will still be fastest when allowed to be by their engineers. As long as the driver knows which switch is being referred to, that's probably about the maximum thinking required. Things have changed, its not like the 1980's when clever drivers like Prost genuinely held an advantage. The drivers don't need to be particularly smart to do well, nor experienced.
So, basically this happened?
Vettel and Kimi are performing below expectations, but it might be due to other factors than new regulations set. For example complex car design or some communication interference between them and engineers?
But besides them, it's pretty much the same as last year.
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Posted 09 July 2014 - 13:39
With recent developments, the question has to be, which regulations? Those at the start of 2014, the mid-season ones or the inevitable knee-jerk rebound later on?
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Posted 09 July 2014 - 13:41
My $0.02
Benefit
Hamilton
Rosberg
Alonso
Hulkenberg
Suffer
Vettel
Raikkonen
Button
Good job. 
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Posted 09 July 2014 - 13:56
Depends on who you talk to. Here at 1.25 is suggested that the new regulations might help Lewis, if he focuses.
I am sitting on the fence, testing showed me nothing for me to form an opinion on the matter, or even a basis for making a educated guess!.
Vettel ahead of Hamilton in one lap pace. 
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Posted 09 July 2014 - 14:15
My $0.02
Benefit
Hamilton
Rosberg
Alonso
Hulkenberg
Suffer
Vettel
Raikkonen
Button
Pretty much spot on, even if its not quite the way you intended. The ways each driver/their team has fared kinda lines up with this.
Vets being shown the way by Ric, and Kimi is definitely suffering.
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Posted 09 July 2014 - 14:19
The new regulations have helped Bottas. Last year he was arguably outraced by Maldonado in two-car-finishes, who now can't get nowhere Grosjean most of the time. But Bottas is very confident and more convincing than his new team-mate.
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Posted 09 July 2014 - 14:19
I think perhaps the experienced guys will be able to adapt quicker and therefore get up to speed with the new regulations
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Posted 09 July 2014 - 14:24
Is it just me or are there people here with only short term memory?
Kimi has proven, from his McLaren days, that his F1 car control is right up there. He will benefit.\
(his rally driving, on the other hand...)
Sooo... you were saying?
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Posted 09 July 2014 - 14:30
I think perhaps the experienced guys will be able to adapt quicker and therefore get up to speed with the new regulations
Often it is the other way around. Younger drivers can be more adaptable. Let's look at Ricciardo, Bottas or even Magnussen. They have less to "unlearn" as the saying goes.
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Posted 09 July 2014 - 14:32
I think perhaps the experienced guys will be able to adapt quicker and therefore get up to speed with the new regulations
Depends, for an absolute rookie it doesn't matter much if the rules were totally different last year. And we've had a few notable examples of fast, experienced drivers unable/slow to cope with a new system compared to their teammate - Patrese, Barichello, Webber... and now perhaps Raikkonen? This years cars seems to me are very unnatural by design, especially braking and power delivery, most unnatural f1 cars ever probably, so it's a surprise all other drivers seem to be doing just fine
