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#1 Richard T

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 12:31

Just stumbled across THIS album with the new WTCC cars testing in Valencia

 

(except from the Lada, which looks like this): Note that the fender wideners must make the car some 50-ish centimeters wider  :drunk:

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Anyways here are for y'all who can't access the album from facebook.

 

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The WTCC will at least look and sound great this year and 16 of these new bad boys will be ready for the start of the season.

 

A star-studded lineup includes

 

Sebastien Loeb

Yvan Müller 

Gabriele Tarquini

Rob Huff

James Thompson

Tom Coronel

Tiago Monteiro

Jose Maria Lopez

 

And the rest of the field includes this guy:

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Who looks 16 but are actually a whole decade older at 26! And represents the Citroën-rear-of-the-grid department 

 

Roll on Marrakech and more of this

 



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#2 DampMongoose

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 12:42

Personally with the wider flared arches and the boxed off skirts they resemble the cars from the crappest period of the BTCC, about 15 years ago.  Still I'd be interested to see how Loeb gets on.  Other than that based on what I've watched before some of the other well known names in WTCC haven't made for much excitement.



#3 Richard T

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 13:01

Personally with the wider flared arches and the boxed off skirts they resemble the cars from the crappest period of the BTCC, about 15 years ago.  Still I'd be interested to see how Loeb gets on.  Other than that based on what I've watched before some of the other well known names in WTCC haven't made for much excitement.

 

Can argue that these regulations was just what the series needed. The old S2000 cars looked weak and not very powerful.
Im looking forward to it, hopefully the racing wil not be that bad.



#4 RealRacing

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 13:02

Does anyone know about transmission of the races? Any global cable, satellite networks like ESPN or FOX to cover them?



#5 ezequiel

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 13:02

Whatever happened to  ex F1 team Onyx who was supposed to run one or two Cruzes this year? I know Bamboo left the series due to budgetary reasons and Münnich seems to have taken its place, but what about Onyx? Was it just a 'bluff'?



#6 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 13:05

I saw Tom Chilton in that gallery, wasn't he driving for them?



#7 ezequiel

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 13:10

I saw Tom Chilton in that gallery, wasn't he driving for them?

 He drives for ROAL



#8 Richard T

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 13:17

Does anyone know about transmission of the races? Any global cable, satellite networks like ESPN or FOX to cover them?

 

Eurosport has the rights globally. 

 

I saw Tom Chilton in that gallery, wasn't he driving for them?

He did in 2012. Then with RML in '13 and now ROAL with Coronel



#9 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 13:34

Yeah but Eurosport isn't available everywhere  :lol:

 

They're just the commercial rights holder/primary broadcaster. So if you want to watch it in America, or Japan, etc...



#10 Richard T

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 13:34

Whatever happened to  ex F1 team Onyx who was supposed to run one or two Cruzes this year? I know Bamboo left the series due to budgetary reasons and Münnich seems to have taken its place, but what about Onyx? Was it just a 'bluff'?

 

I will spread some light for you, here is what Touringcartimes.com said

 

 

 

Onyx Race Engineering, a new team run by former Arena Motorsport team principal Mike Earle, announced a five-year programme at the beginning of January which has been in development since mid-2013, but it’s understood the team’s cars will not be ready to take part until the latter half of the season at best.

 

Rumours are that they are running ex-Arena Fords



#11 Richard T

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 13:36

Yeah but Eurosport isn't available everywhere  :lol:

 

They're just the commercial rights holder/primary broadcaster. So if you want to watch it in America, or Japan, etc...

 

Oh, alright.. Didn't know



#12 RealRacing

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 21:21

Haven't been able to find a broadcaster of complete races in the Americas. Hopefully Eurosport has some kind of Internet coverage or, at least, good reviews as I'm not so sure they'll have it on streaming...



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Posted 10 April 2014 - 17:29

Looking forward to the first rounds then, this coming Sunday... Marrakech is usually entertaining....

I think it kicks off 4pm ish local time. Not sure what that is GMT.

Eurosport coverage, can't find any scheduling details as yet.



#14 scheivlak

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 19:10

Looking forward to the first rounds then, this coming Sunday... Marrakech is usually entertaining....

I think it kicks off 4pm ish local time. Not sure what that is GMT.

Eurosport coverage, can't find any scheduling details as yet.

Here in NED I see that the Eurosport broadcast is Saturdays at 15:00 (followed by WSR at 16:00) and Sundays at 18:00. 



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Posted 10 April 2014 - 20:06

 Marrakech is usually entertaining....

...if you enjoy Demolition Derbys.  For me, if I never see another race from Marrakech, it will be too soon.  

 

Still, it will be good to see if Loeb can make an impact - preferably not on the barriers.



#16 ezequiel

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 20:39

The drivers (note: Oriola and Ma won't be present at Marrakech)

http://www.fiawtcc.com/drivers



#17 ezequiel

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 17:31

So Citröen dominated the first practice at Marrakech (Müller-López-Loeb, the order) by a considerable margin (around 2 secs to Hugo Valente). Franz Engstler dominating the TC2 class also by a considerable margin.



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Posted 11 April 2014 - 18:45

I guess that was predictable....possibly a Müller whitewash year, López and Loeb will be interesting to watch.

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 15:12

Good qualifying session. I sooo thought we were going to see Loeb get a debut pole. I like the single lap shoot out. Not sure how the whole format works though, I had it on in the backround whilst working, I believe it's all a bit new. Wasn't sure how race 2 pole was decided.



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#20 Exb

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 15:21

Good qualifying session. I sooo thought we were going to see Loeb get a debut pole. I like the single lap shoot out. Not sure how the whole format works though, I had it on in the backround whilst working, I believe it's all a bit new. Wasn't sure how race 2 pole was decided.


I think race 2 grid is set in the reverse order they finished in the top 10 in Qualifying 2 - so 10th position will be pole, and the quickest in that session will be 10th. 11th down will stay in the same order as race 1. The top 5 went through for the shoot-out for pole in race 1 and those positions won't affect race 2. (so in theory position 5 in Q2 is better as it gets you into the top 5 shoot-out and position 6th for race 2 :) (I think I've just confused myself :drunk: )

Did Muller lose his position 2 for cutting the chicane on his flying lap?



#21 BullHead

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 16:16

Yeah, he's now 4th. So Lopez and Loeb front row. (nice explanation BTW, thanks)

Edited by BullHead, 12 April 2014 - 16:18.


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Posted 12 April 2014 - 18:01

Are the races almost back to back tomorrow?

#23 BullHead

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 19:08

They start about an hour apart, so yeah, pretty much. A 20 - 30 min break.

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 21:33

Looking forward to the first rounds then, this coming Sunday... Marrakech is usually entertaining....

 

Judging by the AutoGP race it'll be hysterical, even without Kevin Giovesi. Bumps the size of small elephants and about as much grip off line as an ice rink :drunk:



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Posted 12 April 2014 - 22:37

Judging by the AutoGP race it'll be hysterical, even without Kevin Giovesi. Bumps the size of small elephants and about as much grip off line as an ice rink :drunk:

 

And suspension-breaker kerbs.



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Posted 13 April 2014 - 14:45

Huge Loeb fan here so I am fairly nervous for the race, to be honest. Bring on the World Troubling Car Championship '14 Season.



#27 Richard T

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 14:58

Yeah this will be interesting! Hopefully Loeb can be on the podium  :up:  Heck, he might even win it!

 

Standing start in both races



#28 toofast

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 15:35

World Touring Citroen Cup



#29 ezequiel

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 15:49

And there's the difference between months of development (Citröen) and only a couple of weeks (everyone else).



#30 Exb

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 15:50

Well for a touring car race that was pretty uneventful.

Citroen need to take some lessons from Mercedes about letting their drivers fight - they have such an advantage over the others they can afford some risk.



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Posted 13 April 2014 - 15:52

That Citroen train looked exceptionally well-managed. Unless the intra-team battle sours/heats up, I'm not sure I'd be tempted to watch another race...



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Posted 13 April 2014 - 15:54

Race 2 should be artificially much more fun with the Citroens strating from 8th, 9th and 10th, if I'm not mistaking. The battle could be open among them.

 

EDIT: watching the podium ceremony, where did they get that Argentinean flag, the sun looked so funnily wrong (and angry), LOL.


Edited by ezequiel, 13 April 2014 - 15:55.


#33 Richard T

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 15:54

Yeah race 2 better be more exciting with the Citroens coming through



#34 AVA1

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 15:55

Yeah, seeing the Citroen drivers battle through, muller for the win in race2?

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 15:55

That Citroen train looked exceptionally well-managed. Unless the intra-team battle sours/heats up, I'm not sure I'd be tempted to watch another race...

how about next race, where they don't start on the first rows, and we're (hopefully) in for a show?   ;)

 

though I can understand your feelings, this first race was a poor show.



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Posted 13 April 2014 - 15:57

What do you get whan you get a French tv company, sponsored by a French oil giant manipulating the series to allow a French manufacturer to test a car for a year while everyone else is racing.

 

What you get is utter garbage.

 

800 tyres tested?  Joke

10 million spent on electronics alone.  Joke

Team orders after first corner, beyond joke

people banned form the pit box!

 

Jesus Christ you have so much time on the field does it really matter

 

What a shambles of a series



#37 Richard T

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 16:20

James Thompson not starting race 2 after feeling ill due to gasses coming into the car in race 1... Does not sound very good :|



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Posted 13 April 2014 - 16:29

we need FIA to sort this little mess out, start has been delayed for some sort of reason



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Posted 13 April 2014 - 16:37

What was Coronel thinking squeezing Bennani like that?



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#40 Richard T

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 16:40

What was Coronel thinking squeezing Bennani like that?

 

Total no brains move! Why beeing so agressive to keep your lead on the first lap when you know this is your best chance pulling away from the Citroens...  :rolleyes:

 

Edit: Seeing the replay, that was a seriously hard hit from Muller


Edited by Richard T, 13 April 2014 - 16:41.


#41 scheivlak

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 16:42

What was Coronel thinking squeezing Bennani like that?

Replay shows that Coronel was already slightly more than a car length ahead and that Bennani deliberately kept on pushing him.



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Posted 13 April 2014 - 16:43

Loebs got this one in the bag

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 16:46

Another dumb & dumber moment.



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Posted 13 April 2014 - 16:48

Replay shows that Coronel was already slightly more than a car length ahead and that Bennani deliberately kept on pushing him.

They wouldn't have touched if Coronel had been a car length ahead.


Edited by dau, 13 April 2014 - 16:48.


#45 Richard T

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 16:52

Replay shows that Coronel was already slightly more than a car length ahead and that Bennani deliberately kept on pushing him.

 

Benanni has to move away from the accident, he knew Tom wasn't going to open up the inside and had to go right.



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Posted 13 April 2014 - 16:55

as per the rules a rolling restart from a red flag



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Posted 13 April 2014 - 16:55

They wouldn't have touched if Coronel had been a car length ahead.

Well, he was - as you could easily see in the replay. But Bennani just ran into him.


Edited by scheivlak, 13 April 2014 - 16:55.


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Posted 13 April 2014 - 16:55

A lot of harsh comments, but the contact itself was fairly minimal. I'm not sure that accident would have happened with the bodywork of yesteryear. I think Coronel might have been using an outdated frame of reference whilst judging how much he could squeeze.


Edited by Disgrace, 13 April 2014 - 16:56.


#49 dau

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 16:59

Well, he was - as you could easily see in the replay. But Bennani just ran into him.

He's already slightly beside him when they touch. Hence Coronel turning into the wall. That was just a squeeze taken a bit too far by Coronel.


Edited by dau, 13 April 2014 - 17:00.


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Posted 13 April 2014 - 17:00

They wouldn't have touched if Coronel had been a car length ahead.

to me it seemed like Coronel had 100% of his car in front of Bennani, who then reduced the gap, front right part of the car contacted the rear left of Coronel's, Bennani sustained the contact for multiple seconds, then started moving to the right while they were still touching - which obviously caused Coronel's rear unsettling and moving to the right, and thus going in the wall. Bennanis mistake in my book, he should've only started turning to the right after a small lift.