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#1 Elissa

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 15:52

A huge amount of time and effort is devoted to chasing these fans/unicorns, yet I have no idea who they are!! 
 
Nobody I know watches F1 with a passing interest, you're either a full on hardened F1 fan or just you're not interested at all, there's no person I know that 'may' sit down for a few mins of it 'if' the racing is good, they just couldn't two hoots about the sport or indeed any motorsport. 
 
Any ideas whom this enigmatic casual fan is?  

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#2 Kristian

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 15:56

I must admit, I know quite a few people who went I mention I follow F1, they say "Oh I used to watch that if it was on, but its pretty boring these days so I don't bother". 

 

Also pay-per-view has probably killed it somewhat too. 

 

Its sad really. 



#3 Cacarella

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 15:57

How much is the reward?



#4 Elissa

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 16:01

How much is the reward?

 

3 punnets of whelks 



#5 kenkip

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 16:06

3 punnets of whelks 

Thank you very much now I have laughed so hard my girlfriend knows I wasnt listening to her when she was talking!



#6 Elissa

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 16:06

I must admit, I know quite a few people who went I mention I follow F1, they say "Oh I used to watch that if it was on, but its pretty boring these days so I don't bother". 

 

Also pay-per-view has probably killed it somewhat too. 

 

Its sad really. 

 

Familiar story :-( 

 

One of our family is pretty high up in the city and gets endless hospitality invites to the F1, the full on ‘beautiful people’ experience handed on a plate to him and he just couldn’t care less. He’ll drive 300 miles to stand in the rain and watch Liverpool play some crummy non entity of a friendly though…..

 

My OH works for an automotive company and there’s always competitions up for hospitality seats at the British GP, last year one of the non-fans went and left only 20 mins into the race as they found it dull as dishwater…they were in Brooklands, right at the end of the DRS zone, how much exciting could it be made???!!!!!

 

We’ll pay through the nose to be herded like cattle too and watch from afar….



#7 Jamiednm

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 16:15

I know several casual fans. In fact, every sports fan I know at least has a passing interest in F1.

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 16:21

 

A huge amount of time and effort is devoted to chasing these fans/unicorns, yet I have no idea who they are!! 
 
Nobody I know watches F1 with a passing interest, you're either a full on hardened F1 fan or just you're not interested at all, there's no person I know that 'may' sit down for a few mins of it 'if' the racing is good, they just couldn't two hoots about the sport or indeed any motorsport. 
 
Any ideas whom this enigmatic casual fan is?  

 

I know plenty of people who only watch on a casual basis, in fact they far outnumber the hardened fans that I know.



#9 Elissa

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 16:24

I know plenty of people who only watch on a casual basis, in fact they far outnumber the hardened fans that I know.

 

Glad to know they're not just some fantasy figure...

 

So what (if you can answer) makes them watch a bit here and there as opposed to being taken in by t he whole thing? Is it easy to pick up and follow?



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Posted 01 April 2014 - 16:41

This guy right here <points to self>. I'll have that reward now  :)



#11 Vepe1995

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 16:56

How does one even define casual fan?

 

Do casual fans just sit in front of the tv when the race is on?

Do they possibly follow other sessions like qualifying?

Can a casual fan read F1 news from dedicated motorsport medias like Autosport?

When does a casual fan drops it's 'casual'? A set number of races? Enough exposure to F1-related thing?

Can a fan of other forms of motorsport be a casual F1 fan?

 

For example: My dad has followed F1 since late-90s, but he only watches the qualifying sessions and the race, he doesn't read any motorsport medias, and doesn't actively support any driver or team? Is he a casual fan?



#12 Risil

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 17:20

I know of plenty, but they generally like boring things like families and having a job and other Squaresville pursuits.



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Posted 01 April 2014 - 17:23

Maybe casual "fan" [which in some countries is derived from "fanático"] is not a good term/descriptions, as it involves some sort of logical fallacy.

It could be argued, that you are either a fan of something or not, and that being a "fan" is a active declaration of interest. 

 

IMHO - there are many casual "followers" &/or viewers of F1 (or any other sport for this matter) and it is this group of people which probably makes up the majory of the viewing figures, and the "eyeballs" the marketing guys are after / interested in.

 

If I take myself as an example, I don't follow football/soccer with any passion or great detailed interest or affiliation to a team, nevertheless, I do understand the principle rules and the objective of the game/sport, so I can follow it when I see it.

While I would not stand up 4 a.m. in the morning, to watch any game/match, I don't mind watching a good/classical match when I happen to come across it on TV.

Or if I have nothing better to do at the time (rainy Sunday afternoon or whatever) I would not rule out, me tuning in to the final or important match of a big tournament (Champions League, World Cup etc.).

While I wouldn't call myself a "fan" (which in this part of the world is translated as fanático) - I'm a "casual" follower, who can appreciate and enjoy a good game.

 

I'm sure similar things apply to people who have a interest in F1 (motorsport) but without any in deep knowledge and interest to hunt down the latest gossip/info, or know all the technical details of the sport.

The interest may be just based on the "nationality" of a driver, as some people tend to root for their compatriots independent of the sport they participate in. 

Many people will maybe watch a Wimbledon final when one of their compatriots made it there, especially if it is for the first time, without any deeper interest/understanding of Tennis as such.



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Posted 01 April 2014 - 17:29

Glad to know they're not just some fantasy figure...

 

So what (if you can answer) makes them watch a bit here and there as opposed to being taken in by t he whole thing? Is it easy to pick up and follow?

Sometimes a race excites them and other times it quickly becomes a procession and they find other things to do. I don't find it hard to understand as there are plenty of other sports that I watch on a very casual basis, sometimes a game will keep me engrossed other times a few minutes is enough.



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Posted 01 April 2014 - 18:38

I guess I would class a 'fan' as someone who would make a point to watch each race and knows when they are on, and a casual who might sit and watch a bit if it happened to be on.

I suppose anecdotal evidence varies - I know maybe 5 people who will make some sort of effort to watch F1, but no one who knows I am into F1 has mentioned 'casually' catching some action since the move to Sky (I'm in the UK). I certainly used to get asked more questions about it from colleagues and friends a few years ago.

I've always been HIGHLY dubious of the viewing figures that F1 puts out about itself. Don't they claim the sport is watched by half a billion people globally? That's like 1 in 14 people. I know it's based on something daft but have never figured out the criteria. I would have thought that the number of people who actually intentionally watch most F1 races is far, far lower than that.

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 18:43

my dad is a casual fan, he may read an F1 story if he sees one in the paper, and if he's at home and wants to watch something on the tv and the F1 is on then he may turn it on for a bit. He's been with me to two grand prixs when I was younger, also used to follow touring cars in his youth.



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Posted 01 April 2014 - 18:46


One of our family is pretty high up in the city and gets endless hospitality invites to the F1, the full on ‘beautiful people’ experience handed on a plate to him and he just couldn’t care less. He’ll drive 300 miles to stand in the rain and watch Liverpool play some crummy non entity of a friendly though…..

 

Pfft.  Gloryhunter.



#18 DS27

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 18:55

I have been a hardened fan for over 35 years, but believe I am about to become one of these casual fans. I'll tell you all about the experience when the transformation is complete - if I get the whelks of course.

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 19:07

Any ideas whom this enigmatic casual fan is?  

 

 

half my friends are "casual" fans ... they follow the general news, some will even go to COTA when the race is on, by most don't really follow F1 races live on TV (probably cause they 're in the West Coast) or have autosport/speed etc forum accounts, F1 related twitter feeds etc



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#20 Murl

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 19:07

I guess I would class a 'fan' as someone who would make a point to watch each race and knows when they are on, and a casual who might sit and watch a bit if it happened to be on.

I suppose anecdotal evidence varies - I know maybe 5 people who will make some sort of effort to watch F1, but no one who knows I am into F1 has mentioned 'casually' catching some action since the move to Sky (I'm in the UK). I certainly used to get asked more questions about it from colleagues and friends a few years ago.

I've always been HIGHLY dubious of the viewing figures that F1 puts out about itself. Don't they claim the sport is watched by half a billion people globally? That's like 1 in 14 people. I know it's based on something daft but have never figured out the criteria. I would have thought that the number of people who actually intentionally watch most F1 races is far, far lower than that.

 

I was at a bar the other day, they had F1 on the screen and I glanced at it while waiting for someone to come back with drinks.

 

I'm guessing I am one of the half-billion now.



#21 jonpollak

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 19:40

Casual Fans=Short Attention Span INFIDELS !!!!

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 20:46

There's loads of casual fans. Almost all of my friends are casual fans, they'll catch a few news if they're more sensational (ex. a topic they came up with this week without me bringing it up was the shit sound of the engines), watch little bits of races if they catch one by chance or if there's an interesting title decider or something, but the fact it's been here exclusively on pay-per-view since 2007 or so has pushed them away. Also they certainly won't wake up at crazy hours to watch like I do, so it's true 8AM races kill TV audiences.


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Posted 01 April 2014 - 21:48

I think I could qualify as a semi-casual.

 

I've followed F1 since 1986 (I was 11 by then) but I have never gone to a race and do not follow religiously all races/qualifying. Most are on Sunday mornings back in Mexico which conflicted with my other passion which is MTB's.

I would spend countless hours reading about F1 though.

 

I do not really watch any other sports but cycling. I could say that F1 and cycling are the only sports I really watch.



#24 V8 Fireworks

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:35

Any ideas whom this enigmatic casual fan is?  

 

 

Not me, but I AM a casual fan of twenty-twenty cricket.

 

I WILL watch the final thrilling overs as 5 runs are need off 2 balls as the crowd goes while when the ball soars over the fence for a six.  :clap:  :clap:

 

I WILL NOT watch a test match, I would rather watch paint dry.  :stoned:

 

So casual fans MUST exist for F1 as well.



#25 Murl

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 05:08

I think I could qualify as a semi-casual.

 

I've followed F1 since 1986 (I was 11 by then) but I have never gone to a race and do not follow religiously all races/qualifying. Most are on Sunday mornings back in Mexico which conflicted with my other passion which is MTB's.

I would spend countless hours reading about F1 though.

 

I do not really watch any other sports but cycling. I could say that F1 and cycling are the only sports I really watch.

 

You sound a lot like me, love to read about it and would (these days) go for a ride and not even think about missing the race. OTOH, if it is in my time zone I will watch or check in on live timing/comments threads. 

 

But I'm not what I consider a casual fan.

 

 

To me the casual fan is more like my mate who is a sports n u t, he will watch anything and everything, if it is in his sphere at the time. But if he misses it, or there is a basketball game on the other channel and the race is boring, he's out of there. 

 

Me, I'm not going to care about other sports - although a bit of TDF... :wave:



#26 SpartanChas

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 06:52

There are loads of casual fans in the Horrible 2014 Sound thread. The ones that only watch F1 for the noise.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 07:02

I work with people who talk about the Grand Prix but don't make a conscious effort to watch every race and have no idea what happens behind the scenes, so yes casual fans do exist. I'm a lot more casual about F1 than I used to be due to family restrictions and less coverage, but I suppose a lot of people are like that too. I've got mates who are into football and catch the odd race. They will bring up things and sometimes as I start giving my opinion on it they change the subject if they don't have enough knowledge. They know who has won and the common one now is about the engines sounding crap, but other than that they don't know an awful lot. I do have friends who are die-hard about it as well though, but I have got a sense F1 isn't as exciting as it once was. 

 

The truth is there just isn't enough die-hard fans in the world to keep F1 popular so casual viewers are what makes up the numbers. I do get annoyed when I see 'casual fans' put down as though they are somewhat inferior. Surely their interest level is not really their problem, the sport is appealing to some and mildly to others.



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 07:04

There are loads of casual fans in the Horrible 2014 Sound thread. The ones that only watch F1 for the noise.

I sincerely hope you are joking. :)



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 07:48

Only half joking.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 07:55

Only half joking.

Well I don't think casual fans spend time arguing about a sport they hardly follow on the internet. A lot of passionate fans on here were unimpressed with the noise and even drivers and ex-drivers have commented. This isn't the thread for that discussion, but I thought you comment was a little provocative when we consider how heated that debate has got on here. :)



#31 wrcva

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:15

I know two casual F1 followers who lost interest in watching F1 this season.  One of them is ticked off about losing the convenience of free live timing and the other one is upset about the last race double points issue.    I know another person is working on getting refund on live timing (android).    Considering Malaysian GP worldwide TV viewership is/was down about 2M this year (I red it somewhere last week), maybe those folks are/were a part of the "casual" followers group... in that context (we) people who have forum accounts are addicted.   I guess Bernie and FIA are determined to drive away casual fans... and try to make up the difference by nickeling and diming the core follower group who will not quit (that easily)...  



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:21

If you're using live timing, I don't think you count as a casual fan.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:44

If you're using live timing, I don't think you count as a casual fan.

 

You might be right.  It is hard to define what is "casual" -- if you watch/follow it you have to process it.   I dunno, anyone who can be easily indifferent about watching/following could be classified as a casual, with or w/o live timing.   



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:52

I watch FR3.5 casually, but I use the live timing to get some grip on where everyone is. GP2 ditto. TV-coverage does his best to give as little information as possible.



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:54

 

A huge amount of time and effort is devoted to chasing these fans/unicorns, yet I have no idea who they are!! 
 
Nobody I know watches F1 with a passing interest, you're either a full on hardened F1 fan or just you're not interested at all, there's no person I know that 'may' sit down for a few mins of it 'if' the racing is good, they just couldn't two hoots about the sport or indeed any motorsport. 
 
Any ideas whom this enigmatic casual fan is?  

 

Does watch when it's on, won't get up early for Australia.  Does watch with an iPad on his lap, but it won't be showing live timing.  Enjoys going to see the race but he would rather it was tagged onto a longer holiday.



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 13:00

Plenty of people I know and work with will tune into F1 "If it's on" and just watch a race, with no knowledge of the midweek/off-season politics/rumours/etc. Hell most don't even watch Qualifying. I'd class those as "casual" fans.



#37 wrcva

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 13:29

Plenty of people I know and work with will tune into F1 "If it's on" and just watch a race, with no knowledge of the midweek/off-season politics/rumours/etc. Hell most don't even watch Qualifying. I'd class those as "casual" fans.

 

I would not class them as "casual" fans but more like friends who respect your wishes (assuming you are all together) - or you have a lot of beer in the fridge.   I can only imagine your reaction if one of them told you to flip to another channel while you are in the middle of the race (my reaction would be the same)...   I know some folks who would put up with the race not because they are casual viewers but in case the cameraman focuses on F1 babes...



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 13:37

Plenty of people I know and work with will tune into F1 "If it's on" and just watch a race, with no knowledge of the midweek/off-season politics/rumours/etc. Hell most don't even watch Qualifying. I'd class those as "casual" fans.

 

Why watch qualifying anyway? Halfway during the season we have the PowerUnitRandomizer for the grid.



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 14:00

Plenty of people I know and work with will tune into F1 "If it's on" and just watch a race, with no knowledge of the midweek/off-season politics/rumours/etc. Hell most don't even watch Qualifying. I'd class those as "casual" fans.

From the mid 80's until 2007 I watched every race I could (missed the odd one due to holidays etc.), but didn't make any special efforts to keep abreast of things outside the race weekend, didn't ever look for information on the net, didn't buy any motorsports/F1 related publication, and only attended a couple of race weekends (Silverstone) during the whole time. 

So was I a 'proper' fan or just a casual fan? 

Am I more of a fan now because I read stuff on the internet?

Is a person who is only interested in racing less of a fan than someone who wants to know about the politics etc. as well, or are they simply getting different things from the sport?

 

 

Then again, I do often watch early morning races in my underpants, and I don't think you can get much more casual than that! 



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 14:21

anyone who has a forum account could not possibly be "casual" fan. so, in the F1 universe...
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we all are rare freaks (.000000001 % of the followers)... :p 



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 14:43

Pfft.  Gloryhunter.

:rotfl:  :up:



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 14:55

Out of curiosity, has anyone with a dog ever spread peanut butter... no, wait, also out of curiosity, has anyone ever asked the scourge of humanity known as the "casual fan" what he or she actually wants in racing?

 

It's not that I care at all what they want, and I dislike the idea of tailoring broadcasts to appeal to a demographic who may not watch any more of the race if a shiny frisbee flies past their window on lap 3 and they run outside to investigate, but the fact remains I've only ever heard people who are clearly not casual fans guessing what the casual fan wants. I've never heard it from the unicorn's mouth, so the suggestions always seem a bit like those anti-smoking/drugs/drinking campaigns they have in schools, meant to make a life of sobriety look cool and appealing but written by old men and women in a Board of Education bunker somewhere who have never been either of those things, who if they had ignored their own propaganda when they were 14 would be working somewhere a lot more freeing and expressive than the Board of Education.

 

I just think there has to be a better way than every single racing series I watch pissing away valuable TV time explaining for the billionth time what basic aspects of racing mean, presumably overlooking that it doesn't matter if you read a casual fan the rulebook page by page if the racing itself doesn't give them a reason to want more.

 

F1 is pretty bad for the endless lessons. I've forgotten the vast majority of my life but I didn't forget just in the past 6 days what DRS was since the last time you explained it to me, bleary-eyed in front of my TV at 3 in the morning. Is this meant to keep casual fans? Because I would've thought there are a thousand better ways to do this. NASCAR is much worse though, particularly this year, when any old shithead with a cell phone and a bucket of KFC can Tweet a picture of him gobbling down some dirty old chicken fingers and get on TV during the race (for any Europeans reading this, no, this is not something I made up).

 

I understand there are a thousand factors behind the increasing lack of shits given about car racing. Video games going from a part of the sweaty basment nerd culture as eternal as zits and pocket protectors (in the eyes of mainstream media, anyway) to something no one feels weird playing is probably a big part of dwindling audience figures, and in fairness I can see why. Canada is an enormous country so I'm not exactly close to Montreal (it's a London-to-Hockenheim kind of distance), but I'm a hell of a lot closer than 90% of my country, and if the price is $2000 on a trip to the GP I'm going to be sorely tempted to just watch it online on the beautiful new computer I bought for $2000. I've been to ALMS weekends, they were a good chunk of change but I wasn't going to be living off noodles for the rest of the year to afford to go. "Expensive day out" money is fine for a day at the track. "New furnace" or "Down payment on a used car" money might be stretching it a bit.

 

So here are my tips for Bernie and any other secret robots in charge of racing series out there, on how to maximize your appeal to the common plebs while minimizing the need to drink pure ethanol to make the broadcast tolerable to a hardcore fan. Because I really don't have anything better to do today:

 

1: Figure out how to make the cars sound on TV like they do in real life. For years I assumed it was my 1997 Toshiba robbing me of glorious engine noise, until I realized this is a common complaint. I know nothing about audio technology but this seems like something that should not really be an issue. We're drawing dick pictures on Mars for God's sake, but we can't make an F1 car on TV sound like an F1 car in real life? I was a casual fan myself once, in that brief 35-minute drive from my house to Cayuga Speedway, and it sure as hell wasn't knowing what the drivers Tweeted before the race that made me decide car racing was something I wanted to be involved in. It was the sound and smell and feel of a race track that sold me, and while I appreciate that we may still be a few years away from Smellovision or a large hand that comes out your TV and shakes you like you really were at the track (I can think of another application for this feature already), we should at least be able to hear something other than blandness and mediocrity on the broadcast. And I'm not talking about David Coulthard.

 

2: Understand that this is not 1961 and people who devoutly follow your series would like more than just the bare ****ing minimum of information. I've mocked plenty of fans for acting as though because they like something and willfully spent money on it, therefore that thing owes them something in return, but at the same time when you look at what other series give their fans F1 is so far behind it's embarrassing, and there's no other word for it. NASCAR is two weeks away from letting the fan be so involved he can read an updated list on Race Day of what the drivers had for breakfast, complete with a little comment box at the bottom to explain his own pre-race eating rituals. There was a time in racing when the best you could hope for was to find out the result months later in a magazine, then you could watch the race and get some information on TV, and now we're in the internet age, and F1 really hasn't changed all that much. I don't know whether a live timing app should be free or not, but I do know a lot of businesses that provide entertainment that run on a free-download, pay-what-you-feel-it's-worth model. Or a pay-with-ads model. Or just a "We already have a billion dollars so you can just have the app" model. I don't know how companies work but I do know that anything that makes it harder for someone to enjoy your product needs to be destroyed immediately. F1 clearly doesn't mind information getting out of the paddock, and every day on this forum there's a new thread about how he said this and he's going to Ferrari and blah blah blah. How is that I can know (theoretically) what a random team member muttered to a buddy as they were packing up the trucks, but I can't know Rosberg is leading with Hamilton -0.434 behind him last lap?

 

3: Make the cars look like epitome of technology they supposedly are. I don't mean good, I mean fast. Fans will never agree on what looks good, but common ground can be achieved if we can all agree they look like the kind of technological insanity they're allegedly supposed to be. In other words, stop writing rules that make the cars look ugly. Just make it look like a race car! I don't care if it's 2009-smooth or 2008-sharp or any other era: just make it look like something I would be thrilled to drive, not something I would feel stupid driving like we've had the last few years, with step noses and Lego front ends and dick noses and skinny rear wings that make the cars look like someone turned their monitor on it's side and yet still tried to fit the whole picture into it.

 

Well that's enough rambling bullshit for today, it's not like I'm ever going to stop watching F1 no matter what they do. It could just be so much better than it is, it's irritating to see it shooting so far under the bar.



#43 Cool Beans

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 15:23

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