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#1 Exb

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 21:41

The first of the four in-season 2-day tests is to be held in Bahrain this week (8th and 9th April)

The teams that are holding their day of tyre testing for Pirelli are Caterham on Tuesday and Mercedes and Williams on Wednesday.
 
http://www.formula1....14/4/15702.html
Formula1.com will, of course, bring you the latest images and daily reports throughout this week’s Bahrain test.
(not sure if autosport or Sky are running there text commentary - I would guess not as nothing advertised)

Drivers confirmed for the test so far are as follows:
Team - Driver
Mercedes: Rosberg (Tues) Hamilton (Weds)
Red Bull: Ricciardo (Tues/Weds)
Force India: Hulkenberg (Tues) Perez (Weds)
McLaren: Vandoorne  Magnussen (Tues/Weds)
Ferrari: Alonso (Tues/Weds)
Williams: Bottas (Tues) Nasr (Weds)
Toro Rosso: Vergne (Tues) Kvyat (Weds)
Lotus: Maldonado (Tues)
Sauber: Sirotkin (Tues) Van der Garde (Weds)
Marussia: Chilton (Tues) Bianchi (Weds)
Caterham: Frijns (Tues) Ericsson (Weds)

Sources: https://twitter.com/...899521287032832, http://www.gpupdate....f1-news/308746/ (Toro Rosso news from Teds notebook) Ferrari (see Cyanide's post below) https://twitter.com/...126554441109504 , http://instagram.com/p/mfVkUhoUxb/# , http://www.f1today.n...w-quotes-sauber[/url] https://twitter.com/...407310980083712 , https://twitter.com/...399163154485248

McLarenVerified account
‏@McLarenF1 Change of plan: @KevinMagnussen will test for McLaren tomorrow & Wednesday at @BAH_Int_Circuit.
Will update as more drivers are confirmed.

Edited by Exb, 08 April 2014 - 06:10.


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#2 Cyanide

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 21:42

Fernando Alonso confirmed he'll test on both days for Ferrari: 

 

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/113323



#3 KingTiger

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 23:31

Are they only testing with 1 car again? It doesn't make much sense considering they have 2 cars ready and waiting at the track already. 



#4 Exb

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 11:33

Are they only testing with 1 car again? It doesn't make much sense considering they have 2 cars ready and waiting at the track already.


The rules state only 1 car is allowed - I guess it is cost saving as only 1 team of mechanics will be required (although I think most teams have an extra night shift crew, at least for winter testing).

Does anyone no if the test is open to the public or if it is private?

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 11:38

Frijns is testing on tuesday for Catherham



#6 ReeVe

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 11:40

The rules state only 1 car is allowed - I guess it is cost saving as only 1 team of mechanics will be required (although I think most teams have an extra night shift crew, at least for winter testing).

Does anyone no if the test is open to the public or if it is private?

I have no local knowledge but the BIC website doesn't list it as an event you buy tickets for

 

https://ticketing.ba...ngp.com/Online/



#7 Exb

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 11:49

I have no local knowledge but the BIC website doesn't list it as an event you buy tickets for
 
https://ticketing.ba...ngp.com/Online/


I must admit I am interested in knowing if they are going to allow spectators to the tests as I might be tempted to go to Barcelona if they do. Nothing on their website either though so I'm not getting my hopes up.

#8 Donkey

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 12:10

The drivers must be sick of driving around the Bahrain track by now...



#9 ReeVe

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 12:11

The drivers must be sick of driving around the Bahrain track by now...

 

Well I think it will take a few decades before it gets anywhere near the number of laps they 've driven around Barcelona :p



#10 Exb

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 21:51

The drivers must be sick of driving around the Bahrain track by now...


Great for testing upgrades though as they have lots of data from all the pre-season tests and race!

#11 Exb

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 06:05

twitter coverage of the test via:
https://twitter.com/crash_F1

#12 Maikel0230

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 07:44

Weird how there is almost no amino from the press or people in general for this test, seems pretty crucial to me.



#13 JeePee

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 07:56

F3 shows them how it's done:

 

https://livetiming.r...#screen-results

 

Even with sector times instead of dots! Amazing!


Edited by JeePee, 08 April 2014 - 07:56.


#14 quidam

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:06

Tests live french :

 

http://www.f1i.com/live-f1/

 

You have to refresh for update datas.



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:10

Tests live french :

 

http://www.f1i.com/live-f1/

 

You have to refresh for update datas.

 

hmm. I wonder if that Mercedes pace is real,  I wonder if Ferrari is sandbagging



#16 GAZF1nut

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:40

Is this a test purely performance related?



#17 Cesc

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:51

Ferrari...sandbagging...at this point there is little to hide.



#18 Exb

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:53

Not much has changed for Lotus at the moment then - only 3 laps so far and no time set :(

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:07

Isn't strange to NOT put Räikkönen in the car for these two days, when afterall the biggest hurdles and challenges are on his side of the garage? I know he's got two days after the Spanish GP, but by then he's probably there, having used the GP-weekends to sort things out....



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#20 Cyanide

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:22

Isn't strange to NOT put Räikkönen in the car for these two days, when afterall the biggest hurdles and challenges are on his side of the garage? I know he's got two days after the Spanish GP, but by then he's probably there, having used the GP-weekends to sort things out....

 

I think at this stage it's crucial for Ferrari to work on developments instead of focusing on Kimi's troubles. He's more or less OK now with the setup. 

 

It's more important to fix those PU and whatever aero problems they have. Otherwise in China S3 they'll be mincemeat. 



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:23

Not much has changed for Lotus at the moment then - only 3 laps so far and no time set :(

Where are you getting the times?


Edited by vas04614, 08 April 2014 - 09:24.


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:30

Where are you getting the times?

http://www.f1i.com/live-f1/



#23 eREr

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:32

Where are you getting the times?

Would you read back a bit? (post #14)



#24 e34

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:33

I think at this stage it's crucial for Ferrari to work on developments instead of focusing on Kimi's troubles. He's more or less OK now with the setup. 

 

It's more important to fix those PU and whatever aero problems they have. Otherwise in China S3 they'll be mincemeat. 

 

19 laps so far. It does not look like they have a lot to test. Maybe it would have been better to let Raikkonen solve his set up problems once and for all (if at all possible, with this awful PU). 



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:34

Merc 51 laps? Blimey, you'd think they could afford to take it easy after another dominant win, what could they possibly be testing? Perhaps the China reliability spec 2 engine? Good chance to stretch it's legs. 


Edited by Markn93, 08 April 2014 - 09:35.


#26 Cyanide

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:38

19 laps so far. It does not look like they have a lot to test. Maybe it would have been better to let Raikkonen solve his set up problems once and for all (if at all possible, with this awful PU). 

 

They can still pump in a decent number of laps. Anything is good now to be honest, as long as they gather more data to improve that turd. 



#27 kimster89

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 10:00

I hope ferrari at least finds out why they are so slow. Im not sure they know that...

#28 vista

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 10:09

Mercedes has already done the double amount of laps compared to everybody except caterham. Judging from the total amounts of laps done this year Mercedes must know their car pretty well by now (how it behaves to set up changes etc).



#29 Exb

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 10:10

I've just had a read through of the french commentry quidam linked durng my break. Seems there has been 2 red flages so far - the 1st a few hours ago caused by the Ferrari stopping at turn 2 (it is back running again now though) and the 2nd by the Marussia.

#30 Exb

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 10:26

Currently on the lunch break in Bahrain.
Round up of the morning session:

Pos Driver Time Laps
1 N. Rosberg 1:36.171 69
2 N. Hülkenberg 1:36.371 25
3 K. Magnussen 1:37.088 34
4 V. Bottas 1:37.305 27
5 F. Alonso 1:37.375 31
6 D. Ricciardo 1:38.816 29
7 S. Sirotkin 1:39.435 33
8 R. Frijns 1:40.027 62
9 P. Maldonado 1:40.183 16
10 D. Kvyat 1:40.452 32
11 M. Chilton 1:41.547 23
(from http://www.f1i.com/live-f1/ )

#31 S3baman

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 11:17

Merc not only has the fastest car, but they also pump out the most number of laps. Gotta appreciate the fact that these guys are not leaving anything on the table.



#32 Exb

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 11:26

The Marussia is back out on track after causing the 2nd Red Flag earlier (at approx 12.00 Bahrain time/10.00 UK).

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 11:43

From Caterham's feed

 

After a positive morning unfortunately we've found a hydraulic system leak that will require much of the afternoon session to fix...



#34 S3baman

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 12:17

Rosberg 11 lap stint. 

 

outlap, 1:57.495, 1:38.493, 1:39.105, 1:38.989, 1:39.018, 1:39.436, 1:39.799, 1:39.902, 1:39.700 inlap



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 12:20

Do they have to use one of their 5 allocated engines for the in season tests or can they use whatever they like?



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 12:22

Do they have to use one of their 5 allocated engines for the in season tests or can they use whatever they like?

Surely whatever they like.



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 12:26

Be a bit unfair if they have to use one of there 5 engines for testing...



#38 S3baman

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 12:52

Couple of updates

 

Technical issues kept Ricciardo in the garage early today and he just had to pit early from a run having hit a bird!

 

Williams' running is done for the day after just 28 laps - Bottas is now in the debrief with his engineers



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 12:53

2:46 p.m. -  Magnussen returned after a 12-lap relay: outlap, 1:36.634, 1:54.441, 1:37.304, 1:38.514, 1:39.053, 1:39.192, 1:39.116, 1:39.365, 1:40.202, 1 : 40664, inlap.



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#40 kimster89

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 12:54

Interesting how much more technical problems teams have compared to race weekend. I wonder why that is

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 12:59

Interesting how much more technical problems teams have compared to race weekend. I wonder why that is

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they're using some of the same components. Probably due to a lack in stock or waiting out for a new iteration of them. So they have to do with what they have for now. Aren't Merc and Ferrari rumoured to bring the new engine to China?



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 13:00

Interesting how much more technical problems teams have compared to race weekend. I wonder why that is

during the race weekend, the track time is limited. in the test, it isn't. and also, they are probably using used up parts in the first 3 races, so mechanical wear and tear has it's effect, and finally, they are running in the middle of the day, when it tends to be hot ... in the middle of a desert. 



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 13:01

Lotus' day is done

 

And that's a wrap for today's running, a few things to work on for tomorrow with @RGrosjean behind the wheel of the #E22



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 13:06

Interesting how much more technical problems teams have compared to race weekend. I wonder why that is

 

Probably testing new components and generally more risk-tolerence runs?  



#45 kimster89

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 13:08

I think timing of this test is failed. It should be after Chinese GP when team will have new parts ans second gen PUs

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 13:11

I wouldn't be surprised if they're using some of the same components. Probably due to a lack in stock or waiting out for a new iteration of them. So they have to do with what they have for now. Aren't Merc and Ferrari rumoured to bring the new engine to China?

What new engines? :confused:  Arent the engines frozen?



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 13:22

What new engines? :confused:  Arent the engines frozen?

new power unit, with same specification ofc



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 13:28

What new engines? :confused:  Arent the engines frozen?

 

Ferrari is working on improving power delivery and driveability of their engine. Since S3 in China is all about power, I'd think they would like to get it done by the Chinese GP.



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 13:37

Interesting how much more technical problems teams have compared to race weekend. I wonder why that is

 

In a test there will be cirumstances where you will feel the need to stop the car, you have the freedom because nothing is at stake. There's no need to 'manage' the problem. Stop the car and fix it. In a race the teams have to take a more management based approach i.e if a sensor detects a problem they'll just try and keep the car going.



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 13:41

Ferrari is working on improving power delivery and driveability of their engine. Since S3 in China is all about power, I'd think they would like to get it done by the Chinese GP.

You're referring to the rumored software upgrade?