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#251 pdac

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 22:20

Two seconds slower than Raikkonen. Well I guess that is test driver material.

 

1. Pastor Maldonado, Lotus, 1m 24.871s, 102 laps
2. Nico Rosberg, Mercedes, 1m 25.805, 102 laps
3. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 1m 26.480, 94 laps
4. Esteban Gutierrez, Sauber, 1m 26.972s, 85 laps
5. Susie Wolff, Williams, 1m 27.280s, 55 laps

 

Er, I make that 0.8 seconds



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#252 turssi

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 23:22

If you look at the timestamps then you'll understand. But yeah, looks like she's ready for Monaco!

Edit: looks like I'm the one reading the forum cross eyed. Did only read the 'two and a half hour left post times' not the final ones. My apologies.

Edited by turssi, 14 May 2014 - 23:26.


#253 Myrvold

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 00:39

deleting rev limit or upping it
But of course, there is no way that FIA will ever consider these. It would make waaay too much sense.

Just as a sidenote... That wouldn't change a thing, they are not close to the 15K RPM limit atm. Raising it to 20 wouldn't help



#254 Clatter

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 11:03

In reference to keeping the 100kg fuel limit and lifting the 100kg/h flow limit.

Honestly I think the races could become too difficult for spectators to track.

 

You would have HUGE performance differentials if you opened up the fuel flow limitations (according to engineers), so you'd end up with DRS-esque activity all around the lap in all weathers regardless of position. That might be more "pure" but it would make for horrible viewing I think. Qualifying would be hilarious though...

 

The 100kg limit and 100kg/h flow were very much a stab in the dark for the FIA I guess this year (though bench dyno testing would have helped), but I think they've done a fair job. We're not hearing about excessive fuel saving and the car pace isn't too shoddy (Spain excluded for grip/tyre choice reasons imo - as proved by this test).

 

The power delivery of these engines is just different, regardless of the fuel flow - so I think we can forget about 15-20k rev limits for the forseeable future. If people want noise, it needs to come somewhere else - but I think a few more tweaks to FOM coverage is all we need, these cars sound great - they sound current.

We managed in the past.

 

I'm all for binning the FFL, let them use the allowance any way they like, but that's got nothing to do with the sound, just that I think it could lead to better racing. I think it would be great to see drivers running truly different strategies again. You can end up with a spread of cars mid-race, but with the front runners coming together towards the end with the added excitement as to who has saved enough to push for the line. It will be fine if some mis-calculate and run out on the way. 



#255 Emilvang

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 17:11

Well, we got another test coming up after the British GP, so I thought I would bump this thread.

 

 

Magnussen and Vandoorne to drive for McLaren in the test.



#256 Callisto

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 17:39

I'm going on the Tuesday,I'm really looking forward to it,I went last year aswell and it was brilliant

#257 DanGB

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 12:59

Where did you find the info about the McLaren drivers? I was really hoping Jenson would be in the car, considering he's only done one day of in-season testing so far and it's his home track....

The only other info I have found online is the Caterham line-up: Will Stevens on Tuesday and Rio Haryanto on Wednesday.

#258 Emilvang

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 13:02

Where did you find the info about the McLaren drivers? I was really hoping Jenson would be in the car, considering he's only done one day of in-season testing so far and it's his home track....

The only other info I have found online is the Caterham line-up: Will Stevens on Tuesday and Rio Haryanto on Wednesday.

 

Danish media. I think Magnussen said it during a press conference.



#259 DanGB

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 12:56

Danish media. I think Magnussen said it during a press conference.

Thanks.

Eddie Jordan said on BBC that Alonso is not taking part in the test.

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#260 Exb

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 10:17

It was posted in the Ferrari or Kimi v Fernando thread that it would be Kimi amd De La Rosa testing. Also Checo and Juncadella for Force India.

#261 jals99

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 11:05

Van Der Garde and Sutil for Sauber



#262 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 11:09

Bianchi's Marussia day at test brought forward to Tues - does that mean he could be in a Ferrari on Wed? #SkyF1



#263 DanGB

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 11:42

F1 Fanatic has the full schedule: http://www.f1fanatic...lverstone-test/

Only team yet to confirm is Ferrari.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 12:39

Will probably go down on Wednesday if Vettel is driving then.

But probably needed a car for this one. Nottingham to the circuit takes an age by trains/buses



#265 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 13:15

Ferrari say Raikkonen will be fit for German GP - but they are resting him for the Silverstone test. @Jules_Bianchi will drive on Wednesday



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 13:18

Why is Bianchi testing -- are they ready to fire Kimi .?. Bianchi is not even a Ferrari test driver, they have PDLR in that role.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 13:24

great chance at an audition for Bianchi. 



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 13:35

BREAKING: @nico_rosberg will drive on Tuesday, @LewisHamilton on Wednesday in this week's #F1 test @SilverstoneUK!



#269 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 13:36

Why is Bianchi testing -- are they ready to fire Kimi .?. Bianchi is not even a Ferrari test driver, they have PDLR in that role.

They are resting Kimi he had a massive shunt on Sunday, must still be sore, Bianchi is under contract to Ferrari, AFAIK he is still a test driver of theirs, they placed him at Marussia to get race experience



#270 discover23

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 13:38

They are resting Kimi, Bianchi is under contract to Ferrari, AFAIK he is still a test driver of theirs, they placed him at Marussia to get race experience

I Stand corrected. I didn't know he was still under contract. Good opportunity for the kid. Alonso thinks he is very good.

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#271 crooky369

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 14:30

Is it just me who thinks £30 is crazy money for a test day?

I'm sure many moons ago (early 2000s) it was free then went up to a tenner which wasn't too bad but it's now £30 and that's a lot. Was thinking about popping down for a few hours after work because I'm interested in hearing the sound of the cars so I can form my own opinion but not sure it's worth it...

Edited by crooky369, 07 July 2014 - 14:37.


#272 DanGB

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 16:06

£30 is about the limit for me - the European tests are no more than a few Euros to attend, if not free.

 

2007 was the first time they started charging - also the first time I attended. 2008 was in the region of £12-15 IIRC. I've not been back since then because of the testing ban.

 

It would be nice if they opened more of the circuit up considering the ticket price - it's Vale through to Abbey this time.



#273 pingu666

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 16:15

cant remmber what we spent last year, was about £15 i think



#274 Exb

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 16:34

Is it just me who thinks £30 is crazy money for a test day?
I'm sure many moons ago (early 2000s) it was free then went up to a tenner which wasn't too bad but it's now £30 and that's a lot. Was thinking about popping down for a few hours after work because I'm interested in hearing the sound of the cars so I can form my own opinion but not sure it's worth it...


It was £25 if pre-booked - it is a bit more expensive than it was last year (and the European equivalent tests - Jerez was 20euros this year) but compared to Friday free practice day at Silverstone (which is only 3 hours worth of F1 cars on track) which cost £65 it is not too bad. I guess they have to cover the cost of getting in staff which are needed when opening the track to the public.

Edited by Exb, 07 July 2014 - 16:36.


#275 Wiggy

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 19:48

But surely it's only a matter of time until this is a full time swap?

I know there are those who think Hulkenberg will end up at Ferrari, but the 'Ferrari Acadamy' has to bear fruit soon, and bianchi may be the justification for it. He'd be cheap too, if they end up paying raikkonen AGAIN to not race...

Perhaps they'll soon realise it may be better to get a passionate young-gun with something to prove in the car, rather than a demotivated guy banking the cash pre-retirement in the twilight of his career.

I think it's quite telling that Bianchi is getting the nod rather that DeLaRosa or Alonso... Surely they'd rather have Alonso in the actual car than in the simulator unless they had decided to evaluate something other than parts on the car...

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 19:54

PdlR is driving on Tuesday. Logistically putting Bianchi in is probably the simplest solution. Nobody's plans have to be changed. Ferrari simply tell Marussia to move Bianchi's test day to Tuesday and put him in the Ferrari for Wednesday. I don't think the situation needs to be complicated, it is the simplest, easiest solution.

#277 HaydenFan

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 20:03

How many laps does Pedro have in the car? Bianchi might just be able to give more info on the car, having run a 2014 for the 2014 season. 



#278 Clatter

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 20:15

It was £25 if pre-booked - it is a bit more expensive than it was last year (and the European equivalent tests - Jerez was 20euros this year) but compared to Friday free practice day at Silverstone (which is only 3 hours worth of F1 cars on track) which cost £65 it is not too bad. I guess they have to cover the cost of getting in staff which are needed when opening the track to the public.

It used to be free, so I think that cost is covered by whatever fee is charged for hosting the test. 



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 20:27

Looking forward to seeing what Vandoorne can do. I remember hearing Magnussen basically earned himself a seat by driving well at these tests, so big chance for Stoffel to try and repeat that.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 20:40

It was £25 if pre-booked - it is a bit more expensive than it was last year (and the European equivalent tests - Jerez was 20euros this year) but compared to Friday free practice day at Silverstone (which is only 3 hours worth of F1 cars on track) which cost £65 it is not too bad. I guess they have to cover the cost of getting in staff which are needed when opening the track to the public.

 

think my ticket for the truck racing at thruxton was a tenner, for 6 hours of racing



#281 RonnyRonny

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 20:45

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Number 28 for DLR.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 21:00

 

BREAKING: @nico_rosberg will drive on Tuesday, @LewisHamilton on Wednesday in this week's #F1 test @SilverstoneUK!

 

 

Should we assume it's sunny on Tuesday and raining on Wednesday?  :cat:  :p  



#283 Timstr11

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 21:17

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Ferrari to try noise solution with separate wastegate and exhaust pipe exits #SilverstoneTest #F1 via @piusgasso

 

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#284 Longtimefan

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 21:22

£30 is too much for a test imo.



#285 chdphd

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 21:48

They are offering pit walks for an extra Ayrton:

 

http://www.silversto...am-test/tickets



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 21:52

Why is Bianchi testing -- are they ready to fire Kimi .?. Bianchi is not even a Ferrari test driver, they have PDLR in that role.

 

Ferrari are finally taking on board the need for costs savings.  They've already got decals for the digits 1 and 7, so using Bianchi means they can recycle.  If PdlR took the wheel, he might ask for 38 or something, which means they'd have an extra £4.99 to fork out.



#287 DanGB

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 23:56

I did see that actually. Anyone on here ever paid the extra? Videos on YouTube from last year's YDT at Silverstone look to me as if they just wheel out old cars while the mechanics do their work behind screens/garage doors. Is there an autograph session or anything as part of it?



#288 pingu666

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 00:26

thats what they did do last year, i think there was a few things that some did, and those with small kids got to pose with the cars which was cool



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 00:36

Should we assume it's sunny on Tuesday and raining on Wednesday?  :cat:  :p  

While you did mean it funny, it's actually forecasted slightly more rain on Tuesday than Wednesday! :p



#290 Exb

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 07:41

Its like being back in Jerez - lots of grinding/drilling noise from the Red Bull garage. Otherwise all quiet at the moment with the odd team firing up their engines. All the barriers are up in front of the garages as usual for testing.

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 09:42

Ferrari are finally taking on board the need for costs savings. They've already got decals for the digits 1 and 7, so using Bianchi means they can recycle. If PdlR took the wheel, he might ask for 38 or something, which means they'd have an extra £4.99 to fork out.


Kudos to Ferrari for letting Jules drive :up:

Looking forward to see the 18" rims. Done right, that might give one or two seconds in laptime.

#292 Exb

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 09:54

hmmm, I'm sure the Lotus is running round on inters - the sun may have gone but its not raining (yet)

#293 Callisto

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 10:02

I'm at the test,the cars are louder than I expected, no where near as last year but still pretty loud

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 10:04

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Number 28 for DLR.

 

 

Damn, what happened to the clean red Ferraris.



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 10:14

Ferrari are finally taking on board the need for costs savings.  They've already got decals for the digits 1 and 7, so using Bianchi means they can recycle.  If PdlR took the wheel, he might ask for 38 or something, which means they'd have an extra £4.99 to fork out.


Haha :D

#296 Maikel0230

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 10:29

Test drivers can't ask for numbers, they are assigned to them by the FIA, at least that's what Giedo van der Garde had to say about it.



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 10:30

Has PDLR gone through the process of choosing that number officially or is it just something they have put on the car for the test? I know it is a number which has appeared on many Ferrari's in the past.

 

Wonder what number Bianchi will run tomorrow... his official #17 or something else?



#298 PayasYouRace

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 10:31

Test drivers can't ask for numbers, they are assigned to them by the FIA, at least that's what Giedo van der Garde had to say about it.

 

Susie Wolff also said that about her 41.



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 10:46

Red Bull

Buemi #15

 

Merceds

No testdrivers have driven the car yet

 

Ferrari

de la Rosa #28

 

Lotus

Charles Pic #30

Marco Sorensen (no number on that E20 he drove in London but I guess it's #31)

 

McLaren

Stoffel Vandoorne #32

 

Force India

Daniel Juncadella #34

 

Sauber

Giedo van der Garde #36

 

Toro Rosso

No testdrivers have driven the car yet

 

Williams

Felipe Nasr #40

Susie Wolf #41

 

Marussia

No testdrivers have driven the car yet

 

Caterham

Alexander Rossi #45

Robin Frijns #46

 

The patern is clear, the FIA reserves numbers based upon the resulsts of the 2013 constructors championship and the number of drivers a team intends to test, if they gather aditional ones in the season I guess they can get back in line behind Caterham. You've also keep in mind some numbers are taken by actual drivers with an F1 seat so they keep changing up.



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#300 PayasYouRace

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 10:48

If any of them get promoted to race drivers I hope they get the chance to choose their own number.