113 replies to this topic

[Fatgadget]

^^
Appears Mercedes had adequate time No?.....Why not the rest?.....Anyway,we are going way OT here...

Edited by Fatgadget, 12 April 2014 - 17:54.

[DKMoto]

So what happens if everyone decides to drive in first gear the whole lap? you get 3 minute laptimes just to be on pole?

[Fatgadget]

So what happens if everyone decides to drive in first gear the whole lap? you get 3 minute laptimes just to be on pole?

Eh!Grid position would be dictated on a seeding system ..much like tennis.
May I suggest you attend a hot rod/stock car race and see reverse grids in practice before you knock it!

Edited by Fatgadget, 12 April 2014 - 18:03.

[halifaxf1fan]

^^
Appears Mercedes had adequate time No?.....Why not the rest?.....Anyway,we are going way OT here...

 

A 33% success rate for a new program implementation usually results in a sacking for the organizer, especially if they have no plan 'B'.  But the FIA isn't going to suffer any such punishment or even try to put a good product on the track for the fans.  So we endure a lost season unfortunately due to their unrealistic rules.  

[Risil]

The FIA are setting the rules for a sport, they're not project managers. We're looking for excellence, not "implementation", and the fact that Renault and Ferrari couldn't do what Mercedes can reflects on no one but Renault, Ferrari and Mercedes.

[Puhoon]

I'm glad that I didn't renew my Autosport plus subscribcion as their reporters seem to waste time thinking stupid ideas like this. 

 

Why shoud everything and every race be exciting? Boring is fine. You need enough boring races to make the good races look special. And also this idea is also in the same category as penalty points in regards of sportiness.

 

Hands of F1, please. No need to mess around.

Disclaimer: didn't bother reading the thread, so I'm sorry if this has been said already. 

[noikeee]

I've been around for two F1 tire wars. They didn't add much.

 

Yeah, but we could do with a different type of control tyre, though.

[halifaxf1fan]

The FIA are setting the rules for a sport, they're not project managers. We're looking for excellence, not "implementation", and the fact that Renault and Ferrari couldn't do what Mercedes can reflects on no one but Renault, Ferrari and Mercedes.

 

Is this you agreeing that the rules are unrealistic?  Good call as it is foolhardy to argue otherwise.   And we are certainly not seeing any excellence on the track this season, just most of the teams racing to be the first of the losers!  

 

As I have said before give Mercedes the trophy for winning the offseason battle of the mechanics. It is clear that they are great at deadlines, swinging wrenches, electric motors and stuff, but please let the others finish the job and get down to the real business of racing with functioning engines.  We don't need any gimmicks just engines!

[tomisumi]

Boring is fine.

 

 

Boring isn´t fine, boring is boring...as a long time "hardcore" F1 fan I know that some races will be boring and I´m ok with that, but lot of F1 audience are not hardcore fans and they want to see interesting 2 hours

[CoolBreeze]

Probably a simpler and cost cutting way is to have 2 race days, saturdays and sunday. 1 hour each. The winner on Saturday starts last on Sunday, while the first person who retires/finishes last on Saturday starts first. 

 

Might work, might not work. But i believe the fans wants to see proper racing, overtaking and action. Not a parade or a dominant car going into the distance. Lets not kid ourselves. Bahrain race was only spectacular because of the Nico-Lewis duel. Other than that, it was pretty ordinary. 

[chipmcdonald]

Jonathan Noble came up with an idea how to make race weekends more exciting...

 

Not usual qualification, but qualification race - 22 drivers, 22 laps and at the end of each lap the man on the back would be eliminated - the last man standing would take pole position. Starting grid of this Q race would be determined by championship positions, but in reverse order, with fastest drivers starting from back of the grid. (hope I explained it properly, my english skill isn´t the best)

 

Jonathan Noble didn't come up with that, that was tossed around on the Atlas F1 board a long time ago.

 

Same complaints, "that's not "racing"", which I disagree with.  Racing has never been some sort of set in stone rules.  In drag racing if someone is racing someone with an advantage, a handicap is sometimes given.   If you know an opponent has a *proven* advantage (via qualifying/points leading), it makes no sense to then give that opponent even more of an advantage.

 

Put the fast cars in front, and the slow cars in back, and then wonder why you have a procession with little passing?  WTF kind of sense does that make?

 

It's not like we don't have reverse grids in other series. 

 

A qualifying sprint race would be worth points, or qualifying would be worth points.  Nobody would sandbag.  If qualifying lined up reverse to the previous race, you would effectively more fairly be normalizing the performance of the field in a much more fair and competitive manner than creating even more bozo engine and car regs.

 

... but people will say "that's not "racin'""..... whatever.

[chipmcdonald]

I'd go one better and just say line them up on the track, offset distance wise by the offset of the last race lap time.  

 

Mercedes/Redbull wins by 40 seconds / half a lap, line them up half a lap back at the start.  Line everyone else up distance-apart by their race finish differences.

 

*Qualifying would give drivers a chance to take back some of the offset by the gap*.

 

 

You'd then have the equivalent of everyone starting side-by-side. 

 

The beauty of this is that by the end of the race, instead of all of the cars strung out, they would most likely be bunching up.   You'd get to see the best cars pushing to make up time, and the slower cars pushing just as hard to keep up.  Qualifying would be just as important - and rewarding, as drivers fought to get themselves a starting position a little closer to the starting line.

 

That would be real racing, real qualifying, at all times. 

[cheekybru]

I was going to click Against the idea but then I read your post, and fell a bit in love with Lewis having to fight from the back every weedkend

 

Go for it, **** it, beats DRS 

[Jon83]

Horrendous idea and one which surpasses all the other stupid things we have seen in the sport.