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#1 jjcale

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 12:48

... a bit of fate testing here... but anyway:

 

The Merc W05 clearly has a massive advantage over the rest of the field which probably wont be bridged before the end of the season.... which means that potentially we are looking at another 1988 or 2002... plus we have two very competent drivers (one of whom may well be an all time talent)... so, IMHO, we are looking at both team and driver records under threat. My question is: which ones do you think will definitely go and which ones are in play.  For me:

 

 

Potentials:

 

Most wins in a season by a driver - currently 13 by MSC in 2002 and SV in 2013

Most consecutive wins by a driver in a season - 9 by SV in 2013

Most consecutive poles by a driver - 8 by Senna over the back end of 1988 and the start of 1989

Most fastest laps in a season by a driver - 10 by MSC in 2004 and KR in 2005 and 2008

 

 
And for Merc, beating Macca's 1988 performance of winning all races in the season is somewhere between a "potential" and an "unreachable". The same goes for Redbulls 18 poles in 19 races in 2011.

 

Probably unreachable:

 

Most poles in a season by a driver - 15 by SV in 2011

Highest percentage of wins by a driver in a season - currently 75% by Ascari (6/8) in 1952

Highest ratio of poles in a season by a driver - 88% (14/16) by Mansell in 1992 

Highest percentage of fastest laps in a season by a driver - 75% (6/8) Ascari in 1952

 

 

BTW I could see NR on the podium every race of the season ... but MSC already did that in 2002. 

 

What do you think??

 

http://en.wikipedia....ula_One_records constructors records

http://en.wikipedia...._driver_records driver records 

 

 

 



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#2 SenorSjon

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 12:51

Least eardefenders used in a season would be easy to break.

#3 eronrules

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 12:52

the most likely one will be

 

will max chilton be able to continue his streak of finishing race ...  :stoned:

 

what is the current record for consecutive race finishes??? didn't heidfeld hold the record???

 

 

this ... aside from the RECORD moaning about the sound of the engine ofcourse.  :smoking:

 

edit: ok, he won't be breaking heidfelds record of 41 consecutive finishes this year. but he is already in the record books i see. he is still way off to spend most no. races without scoring a point, which sadly belongs to H.Kova. 

 

so, i guess none of the records will be broken. 


Edited by eronrules, 21 April 2014 - 12:59.


#4 Atreiu

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 14:00

Percentage of WCC points possible scored. Mercedes so far is at 89.53%.

 

McLaren had 82.91 in 88,

Ferrari had 81.25 in 2002 and 80.86 in 2004.

Red Bull had 79.55 in 2011.


Edited by Atreiu, 21 April 2014 - 14:07.


#5 P123

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 14:04

What is the record for the highest number of 1-2 finishes in a season for a team? I could see Merc running that number fairly high.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 14:18

Quite a new one due to the points system change, but the highest number of constructor's points in a season's got to be up for grabs. The record is currently 650 from RBR in 2011.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 14:19

What is the record for the highest number of 1-2 finishes in a season for a team? I could see Merc running that number fairly high.

 

Most 1-2 Finishes (Season) gb.gifMcLaren (1988) 10

http://f1-grandprix.com/?page_id=3158



#8 Atreiu

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 14:28

Quite a new one due to the points system change, but the highest number of constructor's points in a season's got to be up for grabs. The record is currently 650 from RBR in 2011.

 

Which is why I went for the percentage of WCC points possible. ;)



#9 SR388

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 14:30

Most wins in a season by a multiple dog owner.

#10 Jackmancer

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 15:22

Five consecutive 1-2 by a team (never done before if I'm correct). Could happen.



#11 eronrules

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 15:29

Five consecutive 1-2 by a team (never done before if I'm correct). Could happen.

nah, i always expect some brain fade to ensue,  specially to hamsta. either by him or most probably by the pitwall/pitcrews   :lol:


Edited by eronrules, 21 April 2014 - 15:45.


#12 Jimisgod

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 15:43

nah, i always expect some brain fade to ensue, specially to hamsta. :lol:


I don't recall many drivers having brainfades in god-cars like this year's Merc. Even Button was impeccable during the first half of 2009.

To my mind Lewis will probably have one race ruining mistake over the 19 races, like Senna in Monza or Schumacher at Monaco.

#13 eronrules

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 15:47

I don't recall many drivers having brainfades in god-cars like this year's Merc. Even Button was impeccable during the first half of 2009.

To my mind Lewis will probably have one race ruining mistake over the 19 races, like Senna in Monza or Schumacher at Monaco.

see edit ... hamsta has had some bad luck with pit wall/pit crews. i expect to see some during the season.  :smoking:



#14 Zoetrope

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 16:30

As much as I would love Lewis to win 10 on a trot, that would make F1 look bad for the average viewer (aka Sunday audience). Vettel in 2013, now this. 



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 16:43

Record for lowest ratings ever for an F1 season.  The 'Mercedes domination' storyline isn't very appealing to viewers.



#16 BobbyRicky

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 16:50

Adrian Sutil is going to get the record for most races without a podium-finish this season if i remember correctly.



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 16:52

Record for lowest ratings ever for an F1 season.  The 'Mercedes domination' storyline isn't very appealing to viewers.

 

Its more appealing then Redbull domination to me.

 

 

The records above highlight how dominant the redbull was over the last pevious years, I can see Lewis matching Seb on that but not beating it.



#18 Nicktendo86

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 16:54

Record for lowest ratings ever for an F1 season. The 'Mercedes domination' storyline isn't very appealing to viewers.

Depends how competitive rosberg is, didn't do the figures any harm during the senna/prost McLaren domination, did it?

#19 halifaxf1fan

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 16:59

It is happening already!

 

Its more appealing then Redbull domination to me.

 

 

The records above highlight how dominant the redbull was over the last pevious years, I can see Lewis matching Seb on that but not beating it.

Some alarming 2014 UK numbers....

 

- every race so far this year has recorded a drop on their equivalent 2013 number

- Bahrain and Chinese GP's see lowest numbers since 2007

- overall average so far looks to be the lowest for the first four rounds since 2007

 

This doesn't appear to be the picture everywhere - USA has recorded big gains, but alarming numbers nevertheless. A lot of factors for UK numbers:

 

- terrible scheduling for Bahrain

- apathy towards the current broadcasting set up still

- no big 'storyline' to build around, multi-21 had a lot of influence on the Malaysia number

- sound potentially turning people off?

 

Could be other things, but either way the statements above are fairly horrific. The stable European timeslots will give a clear indicator of whether this is just a blip, or whether F1 is losing fans in the UK.

 

Edited by halifaxf1fan, 21 April 2014 - 17:00.


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#20 halifaxf1fan

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 17:05

Depends how competitive rosberg is, didn't do the figures any harm during the senna/prost McLaren domination, did it?

 

But this is not Senna/Prost.

 

More like Alesi/Berger!



#21 study

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 17:14

It is happening already!

 

And you blame that on Mercedes domination? But they was happy with Redbull domination over the previous years.



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 17:15

But this is not Senna/Prost.

 

More like Alesi/Berger!

 

:rolleyes:



#23 jjcale

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 17:15

What the public thinks about Mercs domination is not the point of this thread (plus there is another thread for that). This thread is for the likelyhood of records tumbling this year, and which records those might be.

 

Can we stick to that please.



#24 Atreiu

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 17:31

Not exactly a record, but an achievement: has there ever been an all german podium? Rosberg, Vettel, Hulkenberg wouldn't be impossible if Hamilton has bad luck any given race.



#25 senna da silva

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 17:38

It is happening already!

 

I'm sure the british media could help if they actually kissed HAM's a$$ like they did Button's in the 2009 season.



#26 Fatgadget

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 17:42

What the public thinks about Mercs domination is not the point of this thread (plus there is another thread for that). This thread is for the likelyhood of records tumbling this year, and which records those might be.

Can we stick to that please.

Krikey! I very much doubt anyone so that one coming in 88 :) I for one was only captivated when J L Schleser threw the spanner in the McLaren well oiled machine.And boy was there some vitriol in the opinion pages of Motoring news and Autosport et all! :D
...In these days of 24/7 media coverage and blogs and tweeting and shite,me thinks pressure much too much for a reapet of F1 1988 :D

#27 dweller23

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 17:47

Adrian Sutil is going to get the record for most races without a podium-finish this season if i remember correctly.

This, I am looking forward to seeing that. Obviously, he's got one fastest lap, so he will never achieve stuff that Brundle achieved (158 races without fastest lap, pole or any lap lead).



#28 Collombin

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 18:14

Not exactly a record, but an achievement: has there ever been an all german podium?.


No. Only the Italians, Americans, Brits and French have ever finished 1-2-3 in a WDC race.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 18:24

 

Potentials:

 

Most wins in a season by a driver - currently 13 by MSC in 2002 and SV in 2013 NO

Most consecutive wins by a driver in a season - 9 by SV in 2013 NO

Most consecutive poles by a driver - 8 by Senna over the back end of 1988 and the start of 1989 NO

Most fastest laps in a season by a driver - 10 by MSC in 2004 and KR in 2005 and 2008 MAYBE

 

 
 

Probably unreachable:

 

Most poles in a season by a driver - 15 by SV in 2011 NO

Highest percentage of wins by a driver in a season - currently 75% by Ascari (6/8) in 1952 NO

Highest ratio of poles in a season by a driver - 88% (14/16) by Mansell in 1992 NO

Highest percentage of fastest laps in a season by a driver - 75% (6/8) Ascari in 1952 NO

 

 

 

 

 

 

In my opinion this thread is a little early. Hopefully the "Jinx" effect will make the rest of the season more entertaining.



#30 sock22

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 18:48

Five consecutive 1-2 by a team (never done before if I'm correct). Could happen.

Ferrari have got five twice (Hungary-Japan 2002; Belgium-Netherlands 1952) but that is the record. McLaren got four in 1988 (Mexico-France) and Mercedes themselves also got four in 1955 (Belgium-Italy). I only know because I just did a blog post on this very topic (see sig)  :smoking:



#31 SpartanChas

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 20:45

I think Lewis could become the English driver with most wins, beating Mansells 31. And maybe become the second Englishman to win two titles, after Graham Hill.

#32 f1RacingForever

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 20:47

You forgot the record for most boring season.



#33 senna da silva

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 20:50

You forgot the record for most boring season.

 

That was 2004.



#34 f1RacingForever

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 20:57

That was 2004.

At lest in the v10 era there was a sense of speed and the sound the cars made was always impressive. It was fun watching the Williams make things difficult for ferrari every once in a while. Doesn't look like anyone will be challenging mercedes any time soon. Then there's the sound which is underwhelming. Like watching the races with ear plugs.


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 21:09

At lest in the v10 era there was a sense of speed and the sound the cars made was always impressive. It was fun watching the Williams make things difficult for ferrari every once in a while. Doesn't look like anyone will be challenging mercedes any time soon. Then there's the sound which is underwhelming. Like watching the races with ear plugs.

I cannot understand all this whingeing about the new sound. Was that screaming noise really such a central element for enjoying the race? And it's not like you could watch the races without ear plugs — unless you were ready to risk ear damage, of course.

 

And Williams never really challenged Ferrari in 2004.



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 21:09

At lest in the v10 era there was a sense of speed and the sound the cars made was always impressive. It was fun watching the Williams make things difficult for ferrari every once in a while. Doesn't look like anyone will be challenging mercedes any time soon. Then there's the sound which is underwhelming. Like watching the races with ear plugs.

 

I know right, like OMG, F1 is just so horrible this year.  :rolleyes:



#37 F1Gui

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 21:13

agreed

 

2004 was the one year I started watching f1 on a highlights only basis after 10 years of watching every race live. 2002 pushed me but I tolerated that season. I've watched every race live since 2005 onwards. but man those where tough years unless u were a MS fan/Ferrari fan.



#38 RubalSher

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 21:15

One record sure to tumble. More points than ever scored by a driver in a single race :p



#39 f1RacingForever

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 21:39

I know right, like OMG, F1 is just so horrible this year.  :rolleyes:

To some of us it is.



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#40 f1RacingForever

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 21:48

I cannot understand all this whingeing about the new sound. Was that screaming noise really such a central element for enjoying the race? And it's not like you could watch the races without ear plugs — unless you were ready to risk ear damage, of course.

 

And Williams never really challenged Ferrari in 2004.

2004 was not a very exciting season but at least the sound and speed contributed something. What is there to like about today's f1 if you're not a Merc fan? It's interesting that certain people who were whining about Redbull's dominance now have no problem with it... I guess ultimately it depend on which side of the fence you sit.



#41 SenorSjon

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 22:11

That was 2004.

 

You still had cars at speed back then. A Minardi could beat the current day mercs. :p



#42 senna da silva

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 00:52

To some of us it is.

 

And the five years of Ferrari/Schumacher dominance and the four years of RBR/Vettel dominance were for me along with traction control and exhaust blown diffusers etc, etc. But I didn't go on and on and on about it. Harden the f#ck up, the formula will change again in the near future!



#43 nordschleife

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 01:17

Most Ferrari team managers.

 

Most repulsive behaviour by tifosi (a lock).

 

Most excuses by Ferrari CEO.



#44 Afterburner

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 02:17

I could see Lewis threatening the most wins consecutively/total this season. Wouldn't be disappointed, as there are quite a few less-worthy drivers who could take it from Vettel/MS.

You still had cars at speed back then. A Minardi could beat the current day mercs. :p

And suddenly the flaws of modern-day F1 become all too apparent. :p

#45 Dolph

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 03:21


And for Merc, beating Macca's 1988 performance of winning all races in the season is somewhere between a "potential" and an "unreachable". The same goes for Redbulls 18 poles in 19 races in 2011.

 

Maybe, but most wins in a season is very possible. They need to beat 15 which means they need 11-12 wins from the remaining 15 rounds. I'd say that's very likely to happen.



#46 George Costanza

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 03:30

With the current point system, I am sure Ferrari of 2002 or 2004 would be the very highest points if add them up. Even more than 2011 RBR's 650.

Michael in 2002 was incredible.



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Posted 22 April 2014 - 03:31

I wouldn't be greatly surprised if Merc get caught and we have a similar season to the brawn season



#48 George Costanza

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 03:35

At lest in the v10 era there was a sense of speed and the sound the cars made was always impressive. It was fun watching the Williams make things difficult for ferrari every once in a while. Doesn't look like anyone will be challenging mercedes any time soon. Then there's the sound which is underwhelming. Like watching the races with ear plugs.

 

2004? Williams was nowhere near Ferrari.... Michael could have won 15 races in a row that season, which could have happened.



#49 George Costanza

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 03:37

And the five years of Ferrari/Schumacher dominance and the four years of RBR/Vettel dominance were for me along with traction control and exhaust blown diffusers etc, etc. But I didn't go on and on and on about it. Harden the f#ck up, the formula will change again in the near future!

 

Williams domination was more fun to watch from the 1992-1997.



#50 George Costanza

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 03:38

I would argue that Mercedes will win all but one race: Monaco GP or Hungary GP.