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[DrF]

Not really expecting much for this weekend. Season is as good as over and I can't really see Ferrari on the podium, let alone a victory this season.

Well, as long as they only get lapped once by the Mercs.

[Zava]

why should they put on the updates for thursday?

[ConsiderAndGo]

Clutching....at....straws!!

[pusko]

Let's wait what will happen today/tomorrow.

My biggest hope is new engine map....everything else is a spit in the ocean.

[sheepgobba]

why should they put on the updates for thursday?

 

Prevent us lot from having a heart attack, as we believed a lot of updates were meant for this race 

[Zava]

Prevent us lot from having a heart attack, as we believed a lot of updates were meant for this race 

maybe the plan is to lower the expectations of you lot, to cause an even bigger "WOW" effect with the actual upgrades.

[Seanspeed]

Prevent us lot from having a heart attack, as we believed a lot of updates were meant for this race

Speak for yourself! lol

We had all manners of rumors, ranging from no aero updates to a massive update package.

[kosmos]

Between Fernando's last positive comments on the press and something that he uploaded on twitter half hour ago, is hard not to have some hope in this weekend "upgrades", hardly remember him so positive and motivated this year. Let's hope that everything works as expected.

[Hayden1]

You mean this ''Ganas de subirme al coche y que empiece los entrenos de este GP'' ?

 What's so special in it?

Edited by Hayden1, 06 June 2014 - 12:13.

[MikeV1987]

'significant' power upgrades, not getting my hopes up.

[ConsiderAndGo]

I for one am happy I was sceptical about this 'massive upgrade' bulls**t. There looks and I emphasis *looks* to be absolutely nothing.

[Yoshi]

The rear wing on Kimi's car looks new.

[RonnyRonny]

lots of flowviz?

[ConsiderAndGo]

The rear wing on Kimi's car looks new.

 Looks like pre-Spain, to me. No need for the monkey seat as its a low DF track.

[kosmos]

From Marc Gene.

 

Different things in both cars, in FP2 they will change this "things" to test them in the other car.

[Cyanide]

Wow. Just based on the car movement in FP1, this car is still a handful to drive. Jesus. 

 

Hopefully it will get better once it's set up. 

[discover23]

Between Fernando's last positive comments on the press and something that he uploaded on twitter half hour ago, is hard not to have some hope in this weekend "upgrades", hardly remember him so positive and motivated this year. Let's hope that everything works as expected.

He just did a very fast lap. I really hope these upgrades are for real. 

[Massa]

Alonso car seems stable. Raikkonen car is just an another Ferrari, looks like the first version of F2012.

[NoSanityClause]

He just did a very fast lap. I really hope these upgrades are for real. 

 

He is first! Even if that probably won't stay that way for long, but is agood feeling. I almost forgot how it felt!

[NoSanityClause]

Alonso car seems stable. Raikkonen car is just an another Ferrari, looks like the first version of F2012.

 

Perhaps the upgrades in Kimi's car didn't work as good. In any case, they will switch upgrades in FP2 according to Gené, so then we will have a better picture.

[MikeV1987]

Whats this 'knocking' sound they are talking about in Kimi's car?

[Ferrari2183]

Looks like Ferrari have entirely new sidepods and engine cover on Alonso's car. By the looks of it it would seem like there was some repackaging as well.

Can't be too sure though.

Edited by Ferrari2183, 06 June 2014 - 15:19.

[artista]

Whats this 'knocking' sound they are talking about in Kimi's car?

Räikkönen reported engine loss power and team said they could see there was knocking in the engine.
Villadelprat was next to the garage and says the team is telling it is software issues, again. Don't know if they did a quick fix or really fixed it

[Vesuvius]

so Alonso has new package on fp1 and kimi old, hopefully the new one is really that much a step forward !

[kosmos]

Well, not bad, is not real and we often run with low fuel in friday but something must be working. Let's see what happen later, I think Ricciardo didn't get a clean lap or something happen with him.

[Ferrari2183]

Räikkönen reported engine loss power and team said they could see there was knocking in the engine.
Villadelprat was next to the garage and says the team is telling it is software issues, again. Don't know if they did a quick fix or really fixed it

Could be that Kimi was testing the new fuel which Shell brought. It was said that Shell was working on a fuel that gave significant gains but that it caused engine knocking earlier in the year.

Engine knocking for those who don't understand is a phenomenon that occurs when combustion of the air-fuel mixture in the cylinder ignites correctly but one or more pockets of air-fuel mixture explode outside normal combustion.

[Massa]

Could be that Kimi was testing the new fuel which Shell brought. It was said that Shell was working on a fuel that gave significant gains but that it caused engine knocking earlier in the year.

Engine knocking for those who don't understand is a phenomenon that occurs when combustion of the air-fuel mixture in the cylinder ignites correctly but one or more pockets of air-fuel mixture explode outside normal combustion.

 

 

It make sense to me :

 

Alonso with the new package but old fuel.

Raikkonen with the old package but new fuel.

[Cyanide]

I don't understand why they need to give one package to one guy and another package to the other. Especially since rain is coming in FP2.

 

Just use the same goddamn updates on both cars, for Christ's sake. There's hardly enough time as it is. 

[Massa]

Sidepods layout is new ?

 

[artista]

Could be that Kimi was testing the new fuel which Shell brought. It was said that Shell was working on a fuel that gave significant gains but that it caused engine knocking earlier in the year.

Engine knocking for those who don't understand is a phenomenon that occurs when combustion of the air-fuel mixture in the cylinder ignites correctly but one or more pockets of air-fuel mixture explode outside normal combustion.

Villadelprat said it was Räikkönen's PU having software issues again, and then they began to joke about how, with the same engines, all the gremlins go to Kimi's car. From there I will think it is a normal, non-fuel type, problem. But, of course, they might have got it not fully right (or I got it wrong), and I might have been what you said.

[krumpli12]

I don't understand why they need to give one package to one guy and another package to the other. Especially since rain is coming in FP2.

 

Just use the same goddamn updates on both cars, for Christ's sake. There's hardly enough time as it is. 

 

Maybe, they want to test that the developments are indeed better than the old package. If that is the case, they have aaaaawsome confidence in their development team...

[Ferrari2183]

I don't understand why they need to give one package to one guy and another package to the other. Especially since rain is coming in FP2.

Just use the same goddamn updates on both cars, for Christ's sake. There's hardly enough time as it is.

Ferrari always back to back updates. Nothing new.

Kimi will run new parts in FP2 and Alonso will take on whatever Kimi was running in FP1 as to test update package as a whole. Also makes sense that Alonso got the package in FP1 as he was the one doing the testing in the simulator.

[RonnyRonny]

Maybe they put the updates on Fernandos car as he's less sensitive than Kimi, he might not have liked they way it made his steering feel?

[Ferrari2183]

Villadelprat said it was Räikkönen's PU having software issues again, and then they began to joke about how, with the same engines, all the gremlins go to Kimi's car. From there I will think it is a normal, non-fuel type, problem. But, of course, they might have got it not fully right (or I got it wrong), and I might have been what you said.

I prefer your version because it means the fuel can be run and that means more pace if it works as intended.

[discover23]

I don't understand why they need to give one package to one guy and another package to the other. Especially since rain is coming in FP2.

 

Just use the same goddamn updates on both cars, for Christ's sake. There's hardly enough time as it is. 

they did that last year with Massa as well, you were just not paying attention.. in some races Massa would test them first. 

[Ferrari2183]

Sidepods layout is new ?

http://images.adrivo...ton/0590813.jpg

Saw it on TV. Yes, the sidepods seem slightly adjusted but I'd definitely go with new engine cover. Look at the area around the exhaust.

[Cyanide]

they did that last year with Massa as well, you were just not paying attention.. in some races Massa would test them first. 

 

Do it on dry weekends. 

 

Not when FP1 is dry and FP2 is wet. 

[Massa]

Saw it on TV. Yes, the sidepods seem slightly adjusted but I'd definitely go with new engine cover. Look at the area around the exhaust.

 

 

Exactly. They made huge change on engine cover and sidepods since Melbourne. At first, we ran with overcut like Red Bull did in the past, and now, it's looks like the good old acer duct. They change the complete layout of the rear, it's a huge amount of work. I really don't understand those saying Ferrari bring nothing, open your eyes guys.

Edited by Massa, 06 June 2014 - 15:53.

[artista]

I prefer your version because it means the fuel can be run and that means more pace if it works as intended.

I wonder how you could understand what I wrote. Just noticed the load of typos (different autocorrect today) You did a good job!

[ConsiderAndGo]

Could be the angle...

 

Edited by ConsiderAndGo, 06 June 2014 - 16:02.

[steferrari]

I'm not sure that all updates was already in the car/s, Sky Italy showed two massive Ferrari boxes arriving in the paddock when free practice was already on.

 

 

 

Sorry for the low quality of the pics.

Edited by steferrari, 06 June 2014 - 16:12.

[Ferrari2183]

I'm not sure that all updates was already in the car/s, Sky Italy showed two massive Ferrari boxes arriving in the paddock when free practice was already on.

Could be for the other car although I'm still to see the new front wing Kravitz is on about.

[Watkins74]

It make sense to me :

 

Alonso with the new package but old fuel.

Raikkonen with the old package but new fuel.

 

That makes no sense. 

[Hanzo]

I'm not sure that all updates was already in the car/s, Sky Italy showed two massive Ferrari boxes arriving in the paddock when free practice was already on.

 

 

 

Sorry for the low quality of the pics.

 

 

Spanish tv reporter said probably new floor for Kimi's car. Not sure.

 

 

 

 

I really hope that this is more or less real and RedBull and the other teams will be behind Ferrari here.

[sheepgobba]

maybe the plan is to lower the expectations of you lot, to cause an even bigger "WOW" effect with the actual upgrades.

 

Haha, well they certainly seemed to be hiding a few things! 
 

Speak for yourself! lol

We had all manners of rumors, ranging from no aero updates to a massive update package.

 

Always difficult to believe who in regards to what Ferrari brings or not 

[sheepgobba]

Spanish tv reporter said probably new floor for Kimi's car. Not sure.

 

 

I really hope that this is more or less real and RedBull and the other teams will be behind Ferrari here.

 

Not sure if a floor would take that much space, aha

[RAGE12463]

I don't understand why they need to give one package to one guy and another package to the other. Especially since rain is coming in FP2.

 

Just use the same goddamn updates on both cars, for Christ's sake. There's hardly enough time as it is. 

probably to cover their bases if the updates don't work?

[camberley]

Merc will be still 1+ sec ahead if the rest come Qualy. 1.17.284 is a slow time, Last year Alonso topped practice with 1.14.818 to give you an idea of the benchmark. Figure Mer will be doing low 1.15 in qualy and we will be lucky to do low 1.16

[quasi C]

The rear of the sidepods look to extend beyond the wishbones now, or am I seeing things? engine cover is different too.  Also they went back to the twin pillar supports, maybe the single pylon didn't work as well with this new rear?

Edited by quasi C, 06 June 2014 - 17:22.

[Frankbullitt]

Improvements, what the hell is going on!!!!!