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#1101 GoldenColt

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 18:07

If I have the chance, I usually watch ORF, too.  :)

 

 

A virtual high-five from me. Ernst Hausleitner and Alex Wurz are an amazing combination.  :up:



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#1102 Risil

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 18:09

http://www.computerw...e-over-car.html


Tech firm commissions small poll asking consumers whether they'd pick their car or their smartphone, consumers say smartphone! **** me!


Edited by Risil, 21 October 2015 - 18:10.


#1103 KnucklesAgain

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 18:12

And still, ORF is likely to drop F1 end of 2016.

http://kurier.at/atm...ieg/152.887.085

 

Man, if for once you could abstain from mangling quotes to fit your worldview!  This is "according to TV Media" (Austrian TV schedule mag) and ORF calls it "speculation". It could still be true, mind you, but "is likely" is a bit much.

 

We also must keep in mind that Austria is a small country and ORF a rather small station, in the grand scheme of things. It also has lots of mandates to fulfill, some by law, regarding Austrian culture. So F1 racing as such is not on the top of their agenda if there are no Austrians competing or are on the horizon as upcoming drivers. RBR does not count, nobody cares. As has been mentioned many times before, other sports have been dropped by national mainstream TV if no nationals win, without it necessarily being a crisis of the sport itself. (Though of course F1 is not in the best state, but perspective is helpful).



#1104 KnucklesAgain

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 18:14

Tech firm commissions small poll asking consumers whether they'd pick their car or their smartphone, consumers say smartphone! **** me!

 

Sure, but the change of people's attitudes towards cars was a frequent topic in the thread, so I thought it was interesting.



#1105 pdac

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 19:02

Sure, but the change of people's attitudes towards cars was a frequent topic in the thread, so I thought it was interesting.

 

Phone insurance is optional and considerably less expensive than car insurance. Maybe a factor?



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Posted 21 October 2015 - 19:36

Phone insurance is optional and considerably less expensive than car insurance. Maybe a factor?

 

Surely insurance cost is a factor for most people, but as long as you can't cripple a whole family for life in an instant by drunk texting, car insurance will be more expensive than phone insurance, and mandatory. This may change by autonomous cars (if they ever arrive): The manufacturer may bear the insurance cost as an incentive to prospective buyers, and in fact it makes little sense to have mere passengers shoulder the insurance cost (and create additional complexity in need of managing, by the inevitable law suits). But autonomous cars probably won't rekindle the general public's love for F1, either :)


Edited by KnucklesAgain, 21 October 2015 - 19:37.


#1107 TurnOffTheLights

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 08:23

USA

 

total viewers

2015: 4,59, 12,7%

2014: 4,13, 12,6%

2013: 5,18, 14,0%

2012: 7,53, 19,7%

 

14-59

2015: 2,59, 12,5%

2014: 2,49, 12,8%

2013: 3,21, 14,8%

2012: 4,74, 20,8%

 

14-49

2015: 1,46, 10,8%

2014: 1,57, 12,1%

2013: 2,04, 13,9%

2012: 3,14, 19,9%



#1108 Tourgott

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 09:12

I guess your figures are from DWDL? Quotenmeter reports it was 4,44m. I think DWDL did a mistake in their overview: http://www.dwdl.de/zahlenzentrale/ They have 4,59m 2x (heute-journal / Wetter and F1) and then there are the 4,44m in the next row for (Julia Leischik sucht: Bitte melde dich).

 

Not sure which figures are correct but it seems that DWDL did a mistake.



#1109 Marklar

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 09:16

RTL teletext

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#1110 Tourgott

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 09:17

Man, if for once you could abstain from mangling quotes to fit your worldview! 

 

Says the guy who don't even understand statistics and tries to blame other  :rotfl:



#1111 dumm

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 09:27

Men, that coverage yesterday from RTL was catastrophic :drunk:



#1112 KnucklesAgain

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 14:28

Says the guy who don't even understand statistics and tries to blame other  :rotfl:

 

You are referring to the post where I had overlooked that one set of numbers was not for the whole season? Yeah, terrible mistake :lol:  (I have no idea what "tries to blame other" is supposed to mean). Anyway, when it was pointed out to me that I was mistaken I said sorry for accidentally misreading the numbers. When will you do the same for misquoting on purpose?


Edited by KnucklesAgain, 26 October 2015 - 14:29.


#1113 TurnOffTheLights

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 08:41

Mexico

 

total viewers: 3,70 mio (10,3%)

14-59: 1,99 mio (9,8%)

14.49: 1,18 mio (8,8%)

 

It must be said, that RTL managed to pack around 25 minutes of commercials into the 102 min of the race. Absolutely disgusting. I expect the numbers for the remaining 2 races to nosedive. That's how you scare away your viewers.



#1114 Marklar

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 08:49

25 Minutes in 100 minutes? And I bet that they stayed on during the SC as they always do? Thats even for RTL in the primetime massive :lol:

#1115 TurnOffTheLights

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 09:03

 And I bet that they stayed on during the SC as they always do?

You're pretty good. Safety car was so exciting, they decided to bring the commercials 2 laps after the restart.  :rotfl:


Edited by TurnOffTheLights, 02 November 2015 - 09:03.


#1116 Tourgott

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 09:56

Brasil

2013: 5,40 Mio.

2014: 4,90 Mio.

2015: 4,42 Mio.



#1117 TurnOffTheLights

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 11:08

Pretty decent numbers, if you take into account that the World Championship is already decided (in contrast to last year) and the unbelievably bad broadcast of the Mexican GP. I've expected worse.

 

total viewers:

2015: 4,42 (18,5%)

2014: 4,90 (22,1%)

2013: 5,40 (23,2%)

2012: 10,65 (42,2%)

 

14-59:

2015: 2,22 (16,8%)

2014: 2,76 (22,4%)

2013: 2,99 (23,0%)

2012: 6,41 (44,1%)

 

14-49:

2015: 1,21 (14,7%)

2014: 1,50 (19,2%)

2013: 1,78 (21,0%)

2012: 4,32 (44,0%)



#1118 SenorSjon

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Posted 16 November 2015 - 11:29

I think people are getting fed up with the poor broadcasts as well. Commercials when the SC goes in instead of during the 7 lap SC-phases, breaks that run for multiple laps, etc. You can't do that in a live sport when everything can happen all the time.



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Posted 30 November 2015 - 10:28

Abu Dhabi

2014: 5,74 Mio.

2015: 3,83 Mio.

 

:eek: 

 

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Season 2015

 

Australia

2013: 2,87 Mio.

2014: 3,12 Mio.

2015: 1,72 Mio.

 

Malaysia

2013: 5,45 Mio.

2014: 4,22 Mio.

2015: 4,31 Mio.

 

China

2013: 4,83 Mio.

2014: 3,91 Mio.

2015: 3,82 Mio.

 

Bahrain

2013: 6,07 Mio.

2014: 5,08 Mio.

2015: 4,91 Mio.

 

Spain

2013: 5,91 Mio.

2014: 4,70 Mio.

2015: 4,25 Mio.

 

Monaco

2013: 7,45 Mio.

2014: 4,21 Mio.

2015: 4,19 Mio.

 

Canada

2013: 5,37 Mio.

2014: 4,39 Mio.

2015: 4,45 Mio.

 

Austria

2013: -

2014: 4,21 Mio.

2015: 4,81 Mio.

 

Great Britain

2013: 5,36 Mio.

2014: 4,18 Mio.

2015: 4,66 Mio.

 

Germany

2013: 5,36 Mio.

2014: 4,83 Mio.

2015: -

 

Hungary

2013: 5,58 Mio.

2014: 4,99 Mio.

2015: 4,64 Mio.

 

Belgium

2013: 5,75 Mio.

2014: 4,58 Mio.

2015: 4,25 Mio.

 

Italy

2013: 5,64 Mio.

2014: 4,06 Mio.

2015: 4,93 Mio.

 

Singapore

2013: 5,01 Mio.

2014: 4,35 Mio.

2015: 5,26 Mio.

 

South Korea

2013: 3,34 Mio.

2014: -

2015: -

 

Japan

2013: 3,47 Mio.

2014: 3,07 Mio.

2015: 2,51 Mio.

 

India

2013: 5,58 Mio.

2014: -

2015: -

 

Russia

2013: - 

2014: 4,14 Mio.

2015: 4,18 Mio.

 

USA

2013: 5,18 Mio.

2014: 4,13 Mio.

2015: 4,59 Mio.

 

Mexico

2013: - 

2014: -

2015: 3,70 Mio.

 

Brasil

2013: 5,40 Mio.

2014: 4,90 Mio.

2015: 4,42 Mio.

 

Abu Dhabi

2013: 5,62 Mio.

2014: 5,74 Mio.

2015: 3,83 Mio.


Edited by Tourgott, 30 November 2015 - 10:30.


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#1120 Marklar

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 10:34

Now thats a proper decline :lol:

#1121 SenorSjon

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 10:41

Well. Since Austin we had boring races and when nothing is to be decided anymore, RTLs advertisement coverage could well be missed.



#1122 Marklar

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 10:47

We have also to include that last year it was the title decider. But its stil too much of an decline

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 10:48

Unfortunately this was the last season which was comparable to the previous years. Rating measurement in Germany will be different next year: http://www.quotenmet...messung-ab-2016



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Posted 30 November 2015 - 12:59

Abu Dhabi

2014: 5,74 Mio.

2015: 3,83 Mio.

 

:eek: 

 

That's more or less completely down to the race not being a title decider, so pretty decent numbers again after such a boring season.

 

A quick overview on ratings of the last race of a season for the last 20 years. You can easily see the differences in ratings in back-to-back seasons with the same host country just depending on if the race was a title decider oder not.

 

Year   Host country  title decider      no title decider

 

1996   Japan             1,58

1997   Europe(Jerez)    15,41 

1998   Japan             4,86

1999   Japan             6,34

2000   Malaysia                             7,54

2001   Japan                                4,62

2002   Japan                                3,51

2003   Japan             7,54

2004   Brazil                               8,70

2005   China                                3,33

2006   Brazil           13,45

2007   Brazil           11,10

2008   Brazil            8,80

2009   Abu Dhabi                            5,85

2010   Abu Dhbai        10,24

2011   Brazil                               5,61

2012   Brazil           10,65

2013   Brazil                               5,40

2014   Abu Dhabi         5,74

2015   Abu Dhabi                            3,83


Edited by TurnOffTheLights, 30 November 2015 - 13:00.


#1125 SenorSjon

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 13:44

wow, double digit deciders... that is a while ago. Looks like most of the Germans don't care about Lewis or Mercedes.



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Posted 30 November 2015 - 13:48

Erm, or their alleged fellow countryman Rosberg, surely?



#1127 SenorSjon

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 15:31

I actually never see anyone rooting for Rosberg, let alone the German audience.