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[SR388]

confession ...

this is my first ever 'FULL' race watching (usually watch highlights or last few laps most of the time)

not bad i'd say ... bit of a lottery.

things i learned ....

1. there is a show called '24 - live another day' ...
2. josh wise and the Dogecar was actually not bad
3. for danica leading some laps is more worthy than winning the actual race ...
4. fans clap (for some reason) when junior leads a lap. ( can someone tell me why )
5. i might actually watch the next race

now ... since i'm not a regular 'NASCAR 'yocal' ... can someone tell me which drivers are most liked and which are hated (apart from keslowski ... of course ... i'll root for him if nobody will) cause i need some crash course in driver recognition.

sad to see smokey trundle along ... i want him winning.

Dale jr is the most popular driver by a decent margin. Kyle Busch is the least liked.

[Andrew Hope]

Yeah, Joonya is far and away the most popular driver. He's so far out ahead he's racing at Sonoma next week. Danica, Jeff Gordon, and Jimmie Johnson I'd put forward as the three on the tier directly below him. Tony Stewart might belong in there too, or near that group. Kryle Busch is most-hated by a country mile, although Keselowski seems to be working hard to catch up to him.

[Risil]

Are Bowyer and Biffle, Hamlin and Harvick and Kenseth and Kahne as meh and interchangeable as they are in my head?

[SR388]

Yeah, Joonya is far and away the most popular driver. He's so far out ahead he's racing at Sonoma next week. Danica, Jeff Gordon, and Jimmie Johnson I'd put forward as the three on the tier directly below him. Tony Stewart might belong in there too, or near that group. Kryle Busch is most-hated by a country mile, although Keselowski seems to be working hard to catch up to him.

Brad K. Stock is dropping by the minute.

[SR388]

Are Bowyer and Biffle, Hamlin and Harvick and Kenseth and Kahne as meh and interchangeable as they are in my head?

Harvick is a love it or hate driver. Khane is a love or meh. The rest are meh.

[Risil]

Would it be better if Kasey was nicknamed "Genghis" Kahne or something?

[Andrew Hope]

Would it be better if Kasey was nicknamed "Genghis" Kahne or something?

 

Kissy or Candy Cane work fine for me. The problem with Kahne is he drives too nice. He'd have like 20 more wins if he would wreck guys in situations where literally every other driver in the field would wreck guys. Consequently he never does anything to make you love or hate him.

 

Harvick, Biffle, Kenseth, Bowyer, they all kind of blend together for me. Harvick stands out most because of occasional bitch fits. Hamlin you forget about until he wins or gets wrecked or is eating food and having epihpanies under the red flag.

 

Edited by Andrew Hope, 05 May 2014 - 20:32.

[Ross Stonefeld]

I have one of those sandwich crimpers. I love it. 

[Dilla]

Yeah, Joonya is far and away the most popular driver. He's so far out ahead he's racing at Sonoma next week. Danica, Jeff Gordon, and Jimmie Johnson I'd put forward as the three on the tier directly below him. Tony Stewart might belong in there too, or near that group. Kryle Busch is most-hated by a country mile, although Keselowski seems to be working hard to catch up to him.

 

Carl Edwards should be on the 2nd tier. He finishes top 5 in Most Popular Driver every year.

[Xpat]

Could be:

 

[paulb]

Kissy or Candy Cane work fine for me. The problem with Kahne is he drives too nice. He'd have like 20 more wins if he would wreck guys in situations where literally every other driver in the field would wreck guys. Consequently he never does anything to make you love or hate him.

 

Harvick, Biffle, Kenseth, Bowyer, they all kind of blend together for me. Harvick stands out most because of occasional bitch fits. Hamlin you forget about until he wins or gets wrecked or is eating food and having epihpanies under the red flag.

 

That looks uncooked and nasty. That is a priceless first-bite expression. Is it a Doge-pie???

[Dilla]

Could be:

 

 

This is exactly what it is.

[eronrules]

hmm ... i know about kybu ...  (is the hatred because of his hotty wife???)

 

kenseth is good racer. i guess i'll have to watch more NASCAR to get a grip on the driver thingy ... 

 

y no love for logano??? junior ... IDK, he's talked up wayyy to much. (specially last race ... he was holding back for what exactly???)

 

so. atm, my support list goes to 

 

1. Keslowski

2. Smoke Stewart 

3. Biffle

4. k.larson (aka babyface massa)

5. carl edwards

Edited by eronrules, 06 May 2014 - 03:00.

[Dilla]

(specially last race ... he was holding back for what exactly???)

 

 

Avoid the inevitable pile-up associated with plate races. Keselowski is his protege by the way.

Edited by Dilla, 06 May 2014 - 03:17.

[eronrules]

Avoid the inevitable pile-up associated with plate races. Keselowski is his protege by the way.

well, i know that, but there is a saying 'nothing ventured nothing gained'

 

i can see where he was coming from, but that would've worked if you were in top 20. he was in the 30s, you need to be further forward to take advantage of any wrecks. 

 

but that's my opinion. 

[Dmitriy_Guller]

Yeah, Junior overdid it with his risk aversion.  He guessed that there would be wrecks well enough, but he forgot that wrecks near the end of the race means very few green flag laps to catch up to the lead.

[Andrew Hope]

well, i know that, but there is a saying 'nothing ventured nothing gained'

 

i can see where he was coming from, but that would've worked if you were in top 20. he was in the 30s, you need to be further forward to take advantage of any wrecks. 

 

but that's my opinion. 

 

Joonyer wasn't trying to take advantage of the wrecks to gain spots, he just didn't want to be in the crash, which he wasn't, so it worked alright for him even if he left it a little too late. In other words when a driver drops back like that, he isn't thinking "Hot damn I'll be able to pass 10 cars when the Big One happens", but "The Big One is incoming and I don't want to be anywhere near it when it does". He ended up leaving his push a little too late and finished almost as far back as he would've had he been in the wreck in the first place.

 

You could support some of the smaller guys too. Josh Wise is now Reddit's go-to driver much in the same way Landon Cassill has been 4chan's NASCAR driver for going on five years now.

[Dilla]

Jr. was coming on the outside with eight laps to go but his run got squashed when Josh Wise tried to jump out in front and killed his momentum.

 

Edited by Dilla, 06 May 2014 - 04:27.

[Dilla]

Joonyer wasn't trying to take advantage of the wrecks to gain spots, he just didn't want to be in the crash, which he wasn't, so it worked alright for him even if he left it a little too late. In other words when a driver drops back like that, he isn't thinking "Hot damn I'll be able to pass 10 cars when the Big One happens", but "The Big One is incoming and I don't want to be anywhere near it when it does". He ended up leaving his push a little too late and finished almost as far back as he would've had he been in the wreck in the first place.

 

You could support some of the smaller guys too. Josh Wise is now Reddit's go-to driver much in the same way Landon Cassill has been 4chan's NASCAR driver for going on five years now.

 

The team also is going to reuse the car at the July Daytona race. And since Jr. already has his win and his last shot was killed, he decided to live to fight another day.

[Jim Thurman]

 

things i learned ....

4. fans clap (for some reason) when junior leads a lap. ( can someone tell me why  )

 

 

now ... since i'm not a regular 'NASCAR 'yocal' ... can someone tell me which drivers are most liked and which are hated (apart from keslowski ... of course ... i'll root for him if nobody will) cause i need some crash course in driver recognition. 

 

 

 

Dale Jr., family tradition.  Sr. was a polarizing figure, but had a huge, devoted following. Dale Jr. carries that on.

 

Kyle Busch initally got hate because he "wrecked" Junior.  Anyone that makes contact with Junior is on an instant hate list with the Junior crowd. Kyle added to this by some bratty behavior.

 

Though they both have plenty of fans/support too, Gordon and Johnson are disliked by many, reportedly for many reasons: Johnson too successful, too bland, too corporate, along with many the press created in a vain attempt to explain why Gordon was so soundly booed early in his career.

 

Logano was perceived as having a "Golden Ticket" (strange that the same thing was missed for the most part with other drivers who were pushed harder by those that had more pull)

 

I'm sure there are others I could give a rundown to, but the rest of it is pretty much down to F1 type "Fanboi-ism" or rooting for someone you decide to like/dislike for some random reason ("I don't like that guy's hair" or "he has an odd voice.")  Like the above isn't affected by that sort of thing?

[eronrules]

Jr. was coming on the outside with eight laps to go but his run got squashed when Josh Wise tried to jump out in front and killed his momentum.

 

 

yep, i saw it too ... although i was thinking junior could push him forward ... these cars doesn't like to be pushed like 2 years ago. 

[John B]

From purely anecdotal field observations at Loudon (i.e. shirts/hats/tank tops), Stewart is at least even with Jr with the NH crowd (maybe remembering his IRL days....?)

 

Kyle played up the Jr thing nicely, remember him wiping his eyes to mock the boos after their wreck? (Winning a bunch of Nationwide/Cup races while Jr struggled with Hendrick didn't hurt).

 

Kenseth has traditionally been labeled as bland, possibly carryover from the 2003 1-win title that spurred the creation of the Chase.

[Red17]

Kenseth has traditionally been labeled as bland, possibly carryover from the 2003 1-win title that spurred the creation of the Chase.

 

His smile doesn't help either

 

[jonpollak]

http://dogesearch.com/

Jp

[jonpollak]

http://dogeweather.com/

Jp

[Deluxx]

Sup guys, haven't been on a while been busy lot. What's new?

Also, I think BK is cool and all, but anyone notice his shitty strategy/boneheaded decisions lately?

Trying to take out ppl is cool and all with no radiator. Alright.

But 6 laps down at dega with a car as loose as his was...trying to lead a lap skipping caution pits? Why. Just dumb.

He took out half the race cuz he didn't want to go to 7 down instead of 6 down.

Not very BK like.

I know it was prolly Penske Inc orders, but still.

Edited by Deluxx, 08 May 2014 - 16:26.