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#1 David1976

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 10:27

https://twitter.com/...401125995991040

 

Wasn't this the same guy that broke Boulier to McLaren?

 

 



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#2 Seanspeed

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 10:29

I don't see the benefit of it for Mercedes.

#3 Szoelloe

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 10:30

It's BS IMHO



#4 David1976

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 10:33

It's BS IMHO

 

 I think this.  But it's F1.  Anything is believable and anything is possible.



#5 slmk

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 10:34

Mods, please move this to the 2015 Silly Season thread. 



#6 Zava

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 10:35

emmanuelrubi had a nice list of wild speculations this guy got wrong.

 

(you're a bit late to the party, David  :p )



#7 Maustinsj

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 11:03

Don't call me Shirley.

#8 ballow

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 11:08

 I think this.  But it's F1.  Anything is believable and anything is possible.

 

There are things that are not possible and this is one of them! No way Alonso gives up his no 1 status, no way he takes on Lewis and no way Mercedes board approves sacking their German driver for Alonso when they have no need to. This is a stupid tweet imo 



#9 Richard T

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 11:12

I see no reason for Mercedes to split with Rosberg or Hamilton and put Alonso in the car. they are reaching their targets anyway!
Besides, UK and Germany are core markets for Mercedes, so...



#10 femi

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 11:15

I don't see the benefit of it for Mercedes.


It weakens Ferrari. But I don't see him at Merc either.

#11 MetallurgicalHedonist

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 11:47

I don't see the benefit of it for Mercedes.


Williams intended to get Prost to let him drive against Mansell for 1993. Where was the benefit? Williams also had already a perfect working no.1-no.2 driver combination... and still they tried to get Mansell/Prost or Senna/Prost although there was a possible danger of a "nuclear situation" as well.

So, no I don' t believe in this "where is the benefit?" question...

In a dominant car you have the goal to maybe win all races. And that's only possible with a driver pairing which is the absolute best (now: Alonso/Hamilton, then: Senna/Prost).

#12 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 11:52

I don't see the benefit of it for Mercedes.

 

None for Mercedes

None for Alonso

None for Hamilton

 

All three will come out weaker if this were to happen.

 

:cool:



#13 Jovanotti

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 11:53

Except the fans :)

#14 Retrofly

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 11:58

I can't see Merc getting rid of Nico. Massive kick in the balls to him if they did.



#15 MikeV1987

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 12:00

TBH, Can't imagine Merc not wanting a German in their line up. I can see Vettel going to Merc before Alonso ever will.



#16 Lone

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 12:01

I can't see Merc getting rid of Nico. Massive kick in the balls to him if they did.


Unless he's out of a contract for next year and wants to jump on the McLaren-Honda project.

#17 Jon83

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 12:02

Alonso has already said he'll be at Ferrari until 2016.

 

But what does he know!?



#18 discover23

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 12:02

Who is this guy Monseiur?
How is this possible?

#19 Cyanide

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 12:04

Oh God. 

 

We're relying on the biggest **** stirrer on twitter alongside that Lorenzo de Luca to kick start rumors. Guys, those two have as much info on these things as your average fan sitting behind a laptop screen reading the international media. They throw the dice, tweet some ridiculous story and eventually get something right. 

 

For the sake of everybody's sanity, let's not post tweets from this clown ever again. 



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#20 Zoetrope

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 12:08

None for Mercedes

None for Alonso

None for Hamilton

 

All three will come out weaker if this were to happen.

 

:cool:

I think he has a higher chance of winning WDC with Mercedes (assuming they truly are Red Bull 2.0 and domination will last for some time now) than with Ferrari.



#21 stewie

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 12:09

Silly season has started mighty early this year....

#22 ballow

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 12:11

I think he has a higher chance of winning WDC with Mercedes (assuming they truly are Red Bull 2.0 and domination will last for some time now) than with Ferrari.

 

And if he gets beaten again by the same person what does that do to his reputation? There is a reason why some boxers who have lost a fight never give a rematch. 



#23 Zoetrope

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 12:17

And if he gets beaten again by the same person what does that do to his reputation? There is a reason why some boxers who have lost a fight never give a rematch. 

No risk, no gain. I bet Lewis would jump into a car with anyone as teammate as long as he had a chance to win.



#24 jstrains

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 12:18

Someone is playing mind games with Nico...

But if true, Lauda should wait for some Alonso´s DNF...

Edited by jstrains, 09 May 2014 - 13:34.


#25 Owen

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 13:24

http://bit.ly/Qm3hZp (sorry, in French)

#26 sheepgobba

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 13:44

I have more chances of winning the lotto than Fernando moving to Mercedes 



#27 sennafan24

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 13:51

I doubt it

 

But I bloody well hope it is true!. Watching Lewis vs Alonso compete in the same machinery again is the type of thing that dreams are made of (at least for us fans)


Edited by sennafan24, 09 May 2014 - 13:54.


#28 aray

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 13:53

despite being a Alonso fan,i will be amazed if Merc do that..they have such a perfect set up..



#29 RubalSher

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 13:55

I seriously hope not! ALO is a lot more useful to HAM in a midfield team :smoking:



#30 RubalSher

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 13:56

But if it is true, I cannot see the team standing behind ROS this year in the WDC title challenge.



#31 Lights

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 13:57

I'd rather have them at a strong McLaren-Honda together, but I guess that ship has sailed for several reasons.



#32 S3baman

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 14:06

I don't see this happening. As much as Alonso will try to get into a championship winning car, he's only hope is Ferrari imo. RBR have Seb and/if when he leaves, they'll have Daniel which will stay in teh family for the next few years. I don't see Macca ever signing Alonso now that Ron is back in charge, and the German stranglehold of Mercedes will not waste the opportunity of having a German driver winning the WDC in the Merc.



#33 HamiltonFanboy

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 14:08

It's nonsense. This guy just puts out 100 rumours a year and eventually he will get one right. People forget about the 99 rumours he started that proved to be false and only remember the 1 he got right. Pretty sad that people give this guy any sort of credibility.



#34 RubalSher

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 14:33

Maybe this is a plant from the Alonso camp of letting Merc know he is interested.



#35 kosmos

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 14:35

Maybe this is a plant from the Alonso camp of letting Merc know he is interested.

 

I'm pretty sure is not, Toto praised Alonso the other day, some people decided to make an story with it. We all know that everyone with twitter or a blog is an insider this days.



#36 Ellios

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 15:42

Hearsay..whispers..rumours..tittle-tattle...If you want something to happen hard enough it may just happen...

 

whatever, I for one would love HAM & ALO to be on the same team again it would be incredible!

 

besides Autosport forum was flooded for years afterwards with threads about 2007! Gonna need more Mods! ;)



#37 R Soul

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 15:49

HAM & ALO

Combining those you get HALO. It's a sign! Repent!

#38 Briz

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 15:53

Mercedes don't need Alonso in their team, but they need him even less as an opponent in case Ferrari improve. Look at 1989/1990, McLaren still had Senna in 1990 but because of not having Prost they almost lost the drivers title to Ferrari where he went...

 

Just sayin'



#39 Astro

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 16:14

"Never! Absolute Bullshit!"
 

That sure left room for speculation... :lol:
 



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#40 slmk

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 16:20

"Never! Absolute Bullshit!"
 

That sure left room for speculation... :lol:
 

 

To which I respond: there is no smoke without fire....



#41 Atreiu

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 16:21

I don't see the benefit of it for Mercedes.

 

Greater marketing presence/influence with added results in Latin/Spanish speaking markets? And the possibility of having their own garages explode in another media war again.

 

Or Alonso will pass info to/from Ferrari so he can finally help them win the WDC/WCC again.



#42 SanDiegoGo

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 16:21

well, that's an official denial, so can we close this thread? it is just giving the click bait hacks the oxygen they desire.

 

 

 

 

To which I respond: there is no smoke without fire....

 

What’s the “Where There’s Smoke, There’s Fire” Fallacy?

 

This fallacy is best-known as the, “Where there’s smoke, there’s fire” phrase because it’s catchy and easy to figure out what it means. The idea is simple: Where you see smoke, that means there’s a fire. The fallacy occurs because you have jumped to that conclusion without actually knowing what caused the smoke — several different things can create smoke or smoke-like effects without there being a fire involved.

 

This fallacy is more formally known as the “Hasty Conclusion” or “Jumping to a Conclusion” for that very reason — one jumps to a hasty conclusion without actually examining the evidence or anything behind the claim.

 

 ;)


Edited by SanDiegoGo, 09 May 2014 - 16:25.


#43 jrwb6e

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 16:26

I don't believe the rumors, but how does it benefit Mercedes when the team has a dominate car and a blueprint for success for years to come (like early 90s Williams)?  It would weaken Ferrari.



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Posted 09 May 2014 - 17:04

well, that's an official denial, so can we close this thread? it is just giving the click bait hacks the oxygen they desire.

 
It's an official denial from the man who said this on 25/09/12:  "Hamilton will stay with McLaren,” said the three-time world champion, adding of Mercedes: “I have no idea what they are up to.”  ....and then three days later this happened: ... Lewis Hamilton is to leave McLaren after signing a three-year deal to race for Mercedes from next season. It was also announced how the man who had no idea what Merc were up to was the new boss of the team. I am in no way saying this means there is something to the story but I am certainly not ruling it out purely on the basis of how Niki Lauda has said it's rubbish.
 
As to the stuff about how it's just some unreliable guy on twitter saying it, it's worth restating what Owen pointed out, that L'Equipe are also running the story, albeit in a much less confident way. Still, they do at least confirm it's a rumour doing the rounds just now.
 
via bing translate:
 

If it is for the moment that a rumor, the departure of the double world champion (2005 and 2006), motivated no doubt by the lack of performance of his car, is not devoid of meaningless given the difficult relations that maintain the driver with his boss Luca di Montezemolo. And where it is confirmed, Alonso could land at Mercedes, priori interested in his profile.

 

 

Frankly, it sounds as if the paper is more than a little sceptical itself but really wants it to be true. As do I except like Lights, I kind of want him to rejoin Hamilton back at McLaren and now I feel sad because something so amazing will never, ever happen. :(



#45 KingTiger

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 17:10

Makes no sense for them to boot Rosberg and it would be extremely unfair to Hamilton to kick him out for a driver who is, at best, on the same level as him. 



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Posted 09 May 2014 - 17:19

I can see Ferrari wanting Hamilton and i think that he as well as all the other drivers on the grid want to drive for them. If that happens Alonso will probably go to Mercedes...  ;-)

 

Maybe Brawn to Ferrari again and since LH didn't looked happy about Brawn leaving Merc!!!  ;-)


Edited by totgate, 09 May 2014 - 17:22.


#47 pRy

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 17:22

I don't think Nico is untouchable at Mercedes.. especially if Lewis continues to dominate him this season. He's in his 5th season at the team. They're under no obligation to keep hold of him forever.. especially if a key talent such as Fernando becomes available. Plus it's possible Nico himself may decide it's time for a change for his own career prospects. 

 

We know Fernando and Lewis are good friends. This photo sums that up nicely: http://i.auto-bild.d...c073c37c27a.jpg  - I think it's possible. Alonso's patience with Ferrari is due to run out. Don't forget how ruthless it appeared Mercedes were with Schumacher. I don't see them having any issues with removing Nico for Fernando.


Edited by pRy, 09 May 2014 - 17:24.


#48 sabjit

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 17:25

This won't be confirmed for a good long while if true. Alonso will know that making such an announcement so early in the year prolongs that awkward period of racing for a team your leaving.



#49 bub

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 17:29

TBH, Can't imagine Merc not wanting a German in their line up. I can see Vettel going to Merc before Alonso ever will.

 

I would have thought the same but you never know. There have (apparently) been problems between Ferrari and Alonso in recent times so maybe they want to part ways. It would be difficult for any team to pass up the chance to sign Fernando.



#50 jjcale

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 17:59

Please God let this be true!!!