33 replies to this topic

[TomCupra]

Any one watching on sky sports rewind to 27.23 of FP3 and watch the flow conditioner on their tub! Thoughts?

[Jackmancer]

Don't be lazy OP. Can you provide some screenshots or captured video?

[Disgrace]

I've seen enough. Horner to the guillotine.

[TomCupra]

Id love to if I even remotely knew how to! Can someone help? Its clear as day!

[IPBushy]

Would it be wrong to suggest that one of the reasons Red Bull have put their nose camera housing in such a restrictive place is so nobody can get a good look at their front wing under load?  Or have I got that all wrong?

Edited by IPBushy, 10 May 2014 - 11:16.

[Lights]

I can guarantee you that all parts on the vehicle passed the highly clueless FIA tests prior to the weekend.

[MeatPopsicle]

[Seanspeed]

That does looks pretty suspicious to me.

Kinda need to see without being zoomed in, to see what sort of corners and speeds its behaviour is reacting to.

Edited by Seanspeed, 10 May 2014 - 11:26.

[study]

Would it be wrong to suggest that one of the reasons Red Bull have put their nose camera housing in such a restrictive place is so nobody can get a good look at their front wing under load?  Or have I got that all wrong?

 

That is the theory of all the other teams yes.

 

 

Its clever how they are doing it, just a good job its not doing it on the front wing nose!!

[MortenF1]

That's crazy! It travels some 40-50mm I think.

[TomCupra]

Would you think this will be investigated as flexable bodywork? Like front wings of old.

[study]

Someone mentioned tests, but would FIA actually test a small wing like that?

 

And more to the point is it actually illegal?

[DracoN]

Cmon fia

[lbennie]

Dan's actually broke off in FP1 if that means anything.

[Jovanotti]

That does looks pretty suspicious to me.

Kinda need to see without being zoomed in, to see what sort of corners and speeds its behaviour is reacting to.

At 0:15 he's in the chicane, at about 0:24 on the main straight.

[DrProzac]

Imho they should allow flexible aerodynamics, except the areas where it can possibly be dangerous.And Allow more active aero.

 

If a team is clever enough to employ them and it can't cause a catastrophic failure, i's OK for me.

Edited by DrProzac, 10 May 2014 - 12:11.

[OneAndOnly]

This is just crazy. If they can get away with this then they can get away with anything.

[np93]

I saw that they were cutting away at that winglet during FP3, so I'm not sure whether they were removing it.  

[TomCupra]

Other teams must have seen this?

[Bloggsworth]

Someone mentioned tests, but would FIA actually test a small wing like that?

 

And more to the point is it actually illegal?

 

If it a movable aerodynamic device, then it is illegal - Remember, an internal component, the mass damper, was considered to be a movable aerodynamic device, and that winglet certainly looked to be moving to me.

 

As to its purpose? Well it sure ain't holding his café latte purchased from a drive-in Starbucks...

Edited by Bloggsworth, 10 May 2014 - 13:45.

[Seanspeed]

At 0:15 he's in the chicane, at about 0:24 on the main straight.

Ok, so its clearly behaving in a predictable manner according to speed, so that makes it more suspicious.

I saw that they were cutting away at that winglet during FP3, so I'm not sure whether they were removing it.

I wonder if somebody(team?) pointed this out to FIA and they quietly asked Red Bull to remove it so as not to make a big debacle out of it?

[jcpower13]

That flexes so much that one good quality video sent to the media will cause a giant sh*tstorm.

[Jovanotti]

Craig Scarborough ‏@ScarbsF1 15 Min.

The flexi vane on Vettel's car looked broken, rather than having flex designed into it.

 

 Can't say that I agree with that.

 

How are these winglets attached to the car?

Edited by Jovanotti, 10 May 2014 - 13:58.

[Vesuvius]

it was a problem like Scarbs mentioned, it was seen on tv how the mechanic was fixing it on the pit

Edited by Vesuvius, 10 May 2014 - 13:58.

[jcpower13]

I don't buy the broken angle at all, that's far too stable a flex for it to be broken.

[John Player]

Wow that's flexing quite a lot

[bourbon]

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Craig Scarborough ‏@ScarbsF1 15 Min.

The flexi vane on Vettel's car looked broken, rather than having flex designed into it.

 

 

Every season we have a Red Bull Flex thread.  Then the media join in and the pundits - then the teams - and the ball rolls with high momentum toward the inevitable fine, penalty, ban for the cheaters!!!!

 

Then the FIA finds everything legal.     

[Coops3]

Even RB could not possibly have hoped to get away with that. It's broken IMO.

[Vesuvius]

What about flexi rear wing of Hamilton we saw at china straight, when it wobbled from right to left...that was very odd.

[Coops3]

Wasn't really flexing though was it, it was just wobbling. It obviously wasn't designed to do that.

[andrewf1]

What about flexi rear wing of Hamilton we saw at china straight, when it wobbled from right to left...that was very odd.

 

Seriously...?

[cairnsie13]

All rear wings look the same in slow motion shots. Its partly due to how stiff the suspension is and sometimes the turbulent air flowing over the wings. Must rattle your teeth out to drive the cars. I find it hard to believe that the winglet on the redbull is broken it looks too linear but I would have thought the aerodynamic effect of the deflection would be negligible anyway, says the armchair expert.

Edited by cairnsie13, 10 May 2014 - 17:40.

[KingTiger]

Non issue for me. 

[TomNokoe]

The same vane broke for Ricciardo in one of the practice sessions. They are either pushing the limits or it wasn't secured well, even after Ricciardo's incident which gave them prior warning.