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#1 RubalSher

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 06:57

5 hours to go and I dont see a race thread yet! Wake up people!!

 

17 of the past 23 winners have been from pole and 21 have come from the front row! Not that anybody is expecting a non Merc victory, but I gotta fill some space here.

 

Reports of overnight rain at the circuit and cooler temperatures similar to Friday.

 

So does Lewis have enough in the tank for a 4th consecutive win or can Nico pull one back? There should be interesting battles behind them too but the track generally produces very little overtaking, so strategies and luck would be crucial.

 

I am hoping for another Hammy win, and hope it is boring and dreadful to the finish :smoking:



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#2 Timstr11

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 07:01

A damp paddock.

https://twitter.com/...384758827319296

 

Should be dry by 14:00 if it does not rain anymore.

Lower temps will improve rear grip.



#3 Tommay

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 07:02

Less rubbered in track then by the looks of it



#4 BCM

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 07:03

Maldonado jumps the start, weaving manically between all of the stationary cars, sees the pit exit and thinking it's T1, slams the Lotus into a slide taking out Hamilton and Rosberg in the process. After the mess is cleaned up Ricciardo takes an easy win only to be disqualified for drinking from his water bottle at more than 100ml/hr, leaving Bottas to take a posthumous win for Williams.



#5 Jackmancer

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 07:08

Maldonado jumps the start, weaving manically between all of the stationary cars, sees the pit exit and thinking it's T1, slams the Lotus into a slide taking out Hamilton and Rosberg in the process. After the mess is cleaned up Ricciardo takes an easy win only to be disqualified for drinking from his water bottle at more than 100ml/hr, leaving Bottas to take a posthumous win for Williams.

 

Eh? Bottas winning the race would be great, but I'd rather have him stay alive after the finish =/



#6 BCM

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 07:11

Ha good point. Should have said "post-race".



#7 kapow

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 07:23

Maldonado jumps the start, weaving manically between all of the stationary cars, sees the pit exit and thinking it's T1, slams the Lotus into a slide taking out Hamilton and Rosberg in the process. After the mess is cleaned up Ricciardo takes an easy win only to be disqualified for drinking from his water bottle at more than 100ml/hr, leaving Bottas to take a posthumous win for Williams.


You've spoiled it now, I was looking forward to watching the race. You should have kept this to yourself!

#8 Thomas99

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 07:35

Hamilton and Rosberg crash into one another and Ricciardo cruises through for the win. Rosberg says "I hate it when I'm crashed into by Lewis".



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Posted 11 May 2014 - 07:38

Maldonado's plan for the race:

 

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#10 SilentKiller

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 07:39

Hamilton and Rosberg crash into one another and Ricciardo cruises through for the win. Rosberg says "I hate Lewis".

Fixed


Edited by SilentKiller, 11 May 2014 - 07:40.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 07:45

While having some hours until the race, is this part from yesterday not a cause for concern.

 

Combined GP2 / F1 qualifying Q1

<pre>
F1  Adrian Sutil          Sauber-Ferrari     1m28.563s
GP2 Stephane Richelmi    DAMS                1m29.293s
GP2 Jolyon Palmer        DAMS                1m29.421s
GP2 Stefano Coletti      Racing Engineering  1m29.514s
F1  Max Chilton           Marussia-Ferrari   1m29.586s
GP2 Raffaele Marciello   Racing Engineering  1m29.650s
GP2 Felipe Nasr          Carlin              1m29.698s
GP2 Mitch Evans          Russian Time        1m29.703s
GP2 Julian Leal          Carlin              1m28.841s
GP2 Alexander Rossi      Caterham            1m29.893s
GP2 Tio Ellinas          MP                  1m29.902s
GP2 Stoffel Vandoorne    ART                 1m29.963s
GP2 Rio Haryanto         Caterham            1m29.983s
F1  Jules Bianchi         Marussia-Ferrari   1m30.177s
GP2 Tom Dillmann         Arden               1m30.289s
GP2 Arthur Pic           Campos              1m30.300s
F1  Marcus Ericsson       Caterham-Renault   1m30.312s
F1  Kamui Kobayashi       Caterham-Renault   1m30.375s
GP2 Daniel Abt           Hilmer              1m30.412s</pre>

The fact that 12 of the GP2 cars can mix it with the rear of the F1 field should be a much much bigger issue to look into, than the case of some fans not liking the sound of the cars this season.

 

:cool:



#12 Lights

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 08:05

I don't see the issue. They're not racing each other.

 

In football lower league teams can sometimes also 'mix it' with top league teams. And they're even playing with the same rules.



#13 kenkip

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 08:18

Interesting race,hopefully Nicvo can huslte lewis today,Danny Ric should have 3rd comfortably,Alonso vs Raikonnen,the Finn looks like he is finaly comfortable,and obviously Seb driving from 15th should be interesting.



#14 Richard T

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 08:20

I hope to see Bottas do a great job today :D :up:


Edited by Richard T, 11 May 2014 - 08:34.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 08:22

I am hoping for another Hammy win, and hope it is boring and dreadful to the finish :smoking:

 

I think you'll get your wish. This circuit has certainly had its moments, but the last really good race here was probably in 2000. I really hope Rosberg shows a glimpse of brilliance for the sake of the title battle.



#16 dweller23

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 08:24

Few of the weather websites report chances of light rain.



#17 GoldenColt

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 08:28

I think you'll get your wish. This circuit has certainly had its moments, but the last really good race here was probably in 2000. I really hope Rosberg shows a glimpse of brilliance for the sake of the title battle.

2011 was pretty good too imo.



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Posted 11 May 2014 - 08:32

While having some hours until the race, is this part from yesterday not a cause for concern.

 

Combined GP2 / F1 qualifying Q1

<pre>
F1  Adrian Sutil          Sauber-Ferrari     1m28.563s
GP2 Stephane Richelmi    DAMS                1m29.293s
GP2 Jolyon Palmer        DAMS                1m29.421s
GP2 Stefano Coletti      Racing Engineering  1m29.514s
F1  Max Chilton           Marussia-Ferrari   1m29.586s
GP2 Raffaele Marciello   Racing Engineering  1m29.650s
GP2 Felipe Nasr          Carlin              1m29.698s
GP2 Mitch Evans          Russian Time        1m29.703s
GP2 Julian Leal          Carlin              1m28.841s
GP2 Alexander Rossi      Caterham            1m29.893s
GP2 Tio Ellinas          MP                  1m29.902s
GP2 Stoffel Vandoorne    ART                 1m29.963s
GP2 Rio Haryanto         Caterham            1m29.983s
F1  Jules Bianchi         Marussia-Ferrari   1m30.177s
GP2 Tom Dillmann         Arden               1m30.289s
GP2 Arthur Pic           Campos              1m30.300s
F1  Marcus Ericsson       Caterham-Renault   1m30.312s
F1  Kamui Kobayashi       Caterham-Renault   1m30.375s
GP2 Daniel Abt           Hilmer              1m30.412s</pre>

The fact that 12 of the GP2 cars can mix it with the rear of the F1 field should be a much much bigger issue to look into, than the case of some fans not liking the sound of the cars this season.

 

:cool:

 

This bothers me somewhat.



#19 Timstr11

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 08:35

#F1 #BBCF1 #SPAIN RACE: AM showers fade; a dry race. Cloudier; sunny spells developing. Further showers later PM. Cooler: 20C; track 31-35C



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#20 dweller23

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 08:36

GP2 still has a bit of damp track.



#21 GAZF1nut

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 08:38

Im hoping for another Bahrain style battle.



#22 garagetinkerer

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 08:46

Im hoping for another Bahrain style battle.

Unlikely.

 

edit: So i've not slept as it is and it is 4 in the morning. Race starts in another 3 hours. Will i get up to watch the race in time? I think betting on that may be a bit more unpredictable than race result.

 

p1- mercedes. Depends on who keeps lead past turn one, then one may as well catch a nap (or in my case, may be continue to doze as i was :p) unless something drastic happens. Last i remember that was '96 and before that '94. Tyres mixed it up a bit last year... but not too much really.

p2- mercedes

p3- rbr

p4 - lotus (grosjean most likely)


Edited by garagetinkerer, 11 May 2014 - 08:53.


#23 PayasYouRace

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 08:51

While having some hours until the race, is this part from yesterday not a cause for concern.

 

Combined GP2 / F1 qualifying Q1

<pre>
F1  Adrian Sutil          Sauber-Ferrari     1m28.563s
GP2 Stephane Richelmi    DAMS                1m29.293s
GP2 Jolyon Palmer        DAMS                1m29.421s
GP2 Stefano Coletti      Racing Engineering  1m29.514s
F1  Max Chilton           Marussia-Ferrari   1m29.586s
GP2 Raffaele Marciello   Racing Engineering  1m29.650s
GP2 Felipe Nasr          Carlin              1m29.698s
GP2 Mitch Evans          Russian Time        1m29.703s
GP2 Julian Leal          Carlin              1m28.841s
GP2 Alexander Rossi      Caterham            1m29.893s
GP2 Tio Ellinas          MP                  1m29.902s
GP2 Stoffel Vandoorne    ART                 1m29.963s
GP2 Rio Haryanto         Caterham            1m29.983s
F1  Jules Bianchi         Marussia-Ferrari   1m30.177s
GP2 Tom Dillmann         Arden               1m30.289s
GP2 Arthur Pic           Campos              1m30.300s
F1  Marcus Ericsson       Caterham-Renault   1m30.312s
F1  Kamui Kobayashi       Caterham-Renault   1m30.375s
GP2 Daniel Abt           Hilmer              1m30.412s</pre>

The fact that 12 of the GP2 cars can mix it with the rear of the F1 field should be a much much bigger issue to look into, than the case of some fans not liking the sound of the cars this season.

 

:cool:

 

If the GP2 car were mixing it with anyone other than the Marussias and Caterhams then I'd be concerned.



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Posted 11 May 2014 - 09:12

watching the GP2 Sprint race and one thing is for sure - there wont be much overtaking this afternoon!



#25 undersquare

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 09:20

Not enjoying the irritating whine of the GP2 cars  :cat:

 

4s between GP2 and an early stage of F1's new version is fine afaic.  The faster they are on a given circuit the harder it is to pass.

 

Come 1:00 I think Bottas out of T1 in the lead would be ideal for me.  Hamilton, Bottas, Grosjean on the podium...



#26 Markn93

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 09:21

watching the GP2 Sprint race and one thing is for sure - there wont be much overtaking this afternoon!

How did the start go?



#27 Markn93

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 09:22

Not enjoying the irritating whine of the GP2 cars  :cat:

 

4s between GP2 and an early stage of F1's new version is fine afaic.  The faster they are on a given circuit the harder it is to pass.

 

Come 1:00 I think Bottas out of T1 in the lead would be ideal for me.  Hamilton, Bottas, Grosjean on the podium...

:lol: Lol you said what my wildest dreams could only imagine. 

 

 

I really want Bottas P2 for a while. 



#28 septerra

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 09:22

I'm looking forward to a battle of Ferrari's more than anything else. Hope it can entertain.



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Posted 11 May 2014 - 09:23

If the GP2 car were mixing it with anyone other than the Marussias and Caterhams then I'd be concerned.

 

 

the GP2 has softer tyres, if the F1 team had supersofts for Barcelona it would be a different story anyway



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Posted 11 May 2014 - 09:24

How did the start go?

Pole man despite slow reactions still got to the 1st corner 1st - its a long run but a narrow turn 1 so theoretically if Lewis places  his car correctly I dont see much chance for Rosberg to get through.

"Theoretically" :cool:



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Posted 11 May 2014 - 09:24

watching the GP2 Sprint race and one thing is for sure - there wont be much overtaking this afternoon!

As it always was (on the dry) until the Pirelli tyres put some dressing to the salad the last couple of years.

#32 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 09:44

I've got a nasty feeling Bottas and Grosjean might collide on the first corner.



#33 ForzaGTR

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 09:46

A damp paddock.

https://twitter.com/...384758827319296

 

Should be dry by 14:00 if it does not rain anymore.

Lower temps will improve rear grip.

 

That should suit Hamilton's setup.



#34 Pharazon

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 09:54

Vettel with 5 place grid penalty apparently



#35 jcpower13

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 09:56

Vettel with 5 place grid penalty apparently

No apparently about it, he changed his gearbox.



#36 Lights

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 09:56

Still hoping for a 7 to 1 start from Alonso. Even if that needs a little China 2012. Imagine the crowd.



#37 jjcale

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:03

Higher than normal likelyhood of  first corner crash by the Mercs IMHO ..... I dont think NR is in a good place right now.



#38 Markn93

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:06

Higher than normal likelyhood of  first corner crash by the Mercs IMHO ..... I dont think NR is in a good place right now.

I think they might split strategy though, whoever leads chooses 2/3 stop and the other gets stuck with the second choice. A late safety car may well play into the hands of the 3 stopper too. I can't imagine either will want to sit behind the other and not do anything proactive to get in front. 



#39 Lotus53B

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:08

I think Nico will be okay...it's the folk 3-6 I think may get concertinaed.

I'll be watching to see if Valteri can repeat the start that Felipe got a few weeks ago. If he does, I think that the FIA should check the Williams garage for JATOs...

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#40 race addicted

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:09

Both Hamilton and Räikkönen looked more comfortable on Friday, than they did yesterday, so my hope and belief is that the track conditions (slightly greener from the rain) will have come to them a little.


Edited by race addicted, 11 May 2014 - 10:11.


#41 boldhakka

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:14

Hope no reliability gremlins for Lewis. 



#42 Richard T

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:20

This just in

 

@F1fanatic_co_uk

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:21

One and two for Mercedes unless fate intervenes. 3rd spot on podium should (maybe could) be a real battle, as the difference between the teams is very small, I could see it being the one who time his pitstop the best coupled with a good start. I hope for Alonso.

 

:cool:



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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:22

Hope no reliability gremlins for Lewis. 

 

or Nico! I get the feeling he is due one now.  :(



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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:29

While having some hours until the race, is this part from yesterday not a cause for concern.

 

Combined GP2 / F1 qualifying Q1

<pre>
F1  Adrian Sutil          Sauber-Ferrari     1m28.563s
GP2 Stephane Richelmi    DAMS                1m29.293s
GP2 Jolyon Palmer        DAMS                1m29.421s
GP2 Stefano Coletti      Racing Engineering  1m29.514s
F1  Max Chilton           Marussia-Ferrari   1m29.586s
GP2 Raffaele Marciello   Racing Engineering  1m29.650s
GP2 Felipe Nasr          Carlin              1m29.698s
GP2 Mitch Evans          Russian Time        1m29.703s
GP2 Julian Leal          Carlin              1m28.841s
GP2 Alexander Rossi      Caterham            1m29.893s
GP2 Tio Ellinas          MP                  1m29.902s
GP2 Stoffel Vandoorne    ART                 1m29.963s
GP2 Rio Haryanto         Caterham            1m29.983s
F1  Jules Bianchi         Marussia-Ferrari   1m30.177s
GP2 Tom Dillmann         Arden               1m30.289s
GP2 Arthur Pic           Campos              1m30.300s
F1  Marcus Ericsson       Caterham-Renault   1m30.312s
F1  Kamui Kobayashi       Caterham-Renault   1m30.375s
GP2 Daniel Abt           Hilmer              1m30.412s</pre>

The fact that 12 of the GP2 cars can mix it with the rear of the F1 field should be a much much bigger issue to look into, than the case of some fans not liking the sound of the cars this season.

 

:cool:

That means the GP2 cars are faster that the F1 cars you listed around the corners.



#46 rockdude101

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:29

Maldonado's plan for the race:

 

tVdttdG.gif

 

Died laughing. :lol:



#47 kosmos

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:39

Amazing parade lap for Fernando, I hope he gets all that energy from the fans and do something good in the race.



#48 ForzaGTR

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:40

Maldonado's plan for the race:

 

tVdttdG.gif

 

 

I've watched this about 20 times and it's still as funny as ever.



#49 ForzaGTR

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:42

Seb's car currently in bits, not sure what's wrong with it. He probably can't wait for this race weekend to be over.



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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:44

Seb's car currently in bits, not sure what's wrong with it. He probably can't wait for this race weekend to be over.

 

What is this?