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#151 Riverside

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 13:36

I loved the "where have you been the last few laps" radio message. That was actually hilarious.

 

Although to be honest, why is there a thread about this. Radio messages...really

 

this guy can't fart without a thread being created.

 

 

 

there are even murmurs that of a thread for him being affiliated with only certain name type

 

Nichola (Brother), Nico (Team mate), NIcole (Girlfriend) Niki (Boss)......

 

 

Kind of like 3 pages of panic on FP3 in Spain when Lewis lost his earlier pace from FP1 & 2 .   Perhaps you should be a little more objective

and a little less myopic ..



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#152 MP422

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 13:40

Kind of like 3 pages of panic on FP3 in Spain when Lewis lost his earlier pace from FP1 & 2 .   Perhaps you should be a little more objective

and a little less myopic ..

 

What panic i didn't notice. You sure hang on the words of us Lewis fans.



#153 jesee

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 13:41

Jeez..never thought i would live long enough to see such a thread. Which driver never complains? Well.....

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 13:51

What panic i didn't notice. You sure hang on the words of us Lewis fans.

 

 

   Perhaps you should revisit the thread.  I don't hang on the words of Lewis fans  ...  lol ..



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Posted 12 May 2014 - 14:10

Wolff chimes in with some fine words

 

http://en.espnf1.com...ory/157969.html



#156 speng

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 14:19

I love topics like this. It shows that the detractors have less and less to criticize about Lewis. The tears are delicious btw, I can get used to this. Can't criticize his speed, racecraft, his wins, his racing intelligence, his tyre management, fuel management, nothing.... so all that's left is his "snappiness" on the radio when in a stressful situation! I love it. Keep pissing them off with your success Lewis, your supporters love it!

Again....... This.



#157 SirT

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 14:25

Yep, very good comments from Toto. :up:



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Posted 12 May 2014 - 14:29

Only 1 poster seems to be trying to make a thing out of this, yet there are 4 pages and 150 posts claiming the whole world is trying to turn this into a controversy. Slightly self-fulfilling... 



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Posted 12 May 2014 - 15:08

Only 1 poster seems to be trying to make a thing out of this, yet there are 4 pages and 150 posts claiming the whole world is trying to turn this into a controversy. Slightly self-fulfilling... 

 

  So self-fulfilling Wolff himself has to give an opinion. 



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#160 Rinehart

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 15:53

  So self-fulfilling Wolff himself has to give an opinion. 

Yup. Literally gob smacked that Wolff even commented on it. 



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Posted 12 May 2014 - 16:05

Boy, you guys griping about Lewis probably wouldn't be able to handle IndyCar. The Mayor of Hinchtown managed about ten times as much rage as Lewis had all weekend in close to one-twentieth the air-time, and we still love him for it. :p I'd love to provide you with a video, but sadly, none exists. You had to be there to see it, anyway.

I love topics like this. It shows that the detractors have less and less to criticize about Lewis. The tears are delicious btw, I can get used to this. Can't criticize his speed, racecraft, his wins, his racing intelligence, his tyre management, fuel management, nothing.... so all that's left is his "snappiness" on the radio when in a stressful situation! I love it. Keep pissing them off with your success Lewis, your supporters love it!

So you're basically here to encourage a nasty atmosphere? Because comments like this certainly don't cause the so-called 'detractors' to shut up: they'll only come out with greater force the next time he has a bad weekend. Fight fire with fire and you get to watch the world burn.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 16:10

you know, whether or not Lewis comes across as moaning a lot, or whether or not he does annoy his engineer, doesn't matter.

 

I don't know for sure, but I imagine that whichever side of the garage wins the WDC they will get a bit of an extra bonus, and come Christmas, Lewis's engineer will forgive any moaning from him if he's won the WDC and he's celebrating with a few extra grand in the bank



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Posted 12 May 2014 - 16:11

Boy, you guys griping about Lewis probably wouldn't be able to handle IndyCar. The Mayor of Hinchtown managed about ten times as much rage as Lewis had all weekend in close to one-twentieth the air-time, and we still love him for it. :p I'd love to provide you with a video, but sadly, none exists. You had to be there to see it, anyway.

So you're basically here to encourage a nasty atmosphere? Because comments like this certainly don't cause the so-called 'detractors' to shut up: they'll only come out with greater force the next time he has a bad weekend. Fight fire with fire and you get to watch the world burn.

Wow!!!  You sure have a nerve posting with the name Afterburner. :p


Edited by Obi Offiah, 12 May 2014 - 16:14.


#164 HeadFirst

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 16:11

Jeez..never thought i would live long enough to see such a thread. Which driver never complains? Well.....

Usually not the driver with 3 wins in a row, and comfortably in the lead.



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Posted 12 May 2014 - 16:13

Wolff chimes in with some fine words

 

http://en.espnf1.com...ory/157969.html

 

 

He read my comments  :clap:



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Posted 12 May 2014 - 16:17

 

In fact Wolff believes the main lesson the team can learn from Hamilton's messages is to look back at the changes it made to his car on Friday night, which could easily have cost him pole the following day.

 

"We take it very seriously because I think what we did was engineer the car away from the way he wanted the car to behave on Saturday. On Friday he was very satisfied with the car and then from FP3 onwards he said it was not doing what he wanted.


Read more at http://en.espnf1.com...TSvLZDUe8F3H.99

 

I wonder what the story is with that



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Posted 12 May 2014 - 16:18

Wow!!!  You sure have a nerve posting with the name Afterburner. :p

Well played. :lol: :up:

I'm not exactly a poster child for civility, but seriously, come on--someone is wrong on the internet, and we're supposed to believe this is a recent development? :p

#168 halifaxf1fan

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 16:26

Firstly, do you not think having the best car is quite a big factor in making emotions run high because there is always more to play for? I know i'd feel more pressure racing 1-2 than 7-8, etc.

Secondly, and this is being hypocritical of me, perhaps you should read Dale Carnegie's book (again) because you are not succeeding in bringing the posters in this thread round to your way of thinking.

Finally, it is subjective whether you find the radio transmissions rude or not and that is your call, no one else's. You must understand and accept that other people watching the sport do not mind that emotions run high and that exchanges can become fraught. For me personally it adds tension and suspense to the excitement, because a driver i am a fan of is stressed, for you it is offensive as it appears disrespectful. Neither of us is right or wrong to feel how we feel.

I would advise you to take a step back and try to understand being in Lewis' position - often you realise you would act just the same in these circumstances.

 

Nico is going to be rejuvenated when he hears about these messages and hears how rattled Hamilton was in the other car.  Applying a bit of pressure to Hamilton is what will cause an opening for Rosberg to take advantage as it is Hamilton's main weakness.  Rosberg had managed to put the pressure in place but unfortunately for him even though Hamilton was driving poorly Nico still couldn't finish the job.

 

Rosberg now must strike back in Monaco to have any chance of staying in the wdc battle this season.



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Posted 12 May 2014 - 16:28

Nico is going to be rejuvenated when he hears about these messages and hears how rattled Hamilton was in the other car.  Applying a bit of pressure to Hamilton is what will cause an opening for Rosberg to take advantage as it is Hamilton's main weakness.  Rosberg had managed to put the pressure in place but unfortunately for him even though Hamilton was driving poorly Nico still couldn't finish the job.

 

Rosberg now must strike back in Monaco to have any chance of staying in the wdc battle this season.

 

The only thing is we didn't hear Rosbergs radio so we don't know how stressed he was getting. Its always easier to chase and never get close and depending on your view Nico has the fortune of not yet being in front  :p


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Posted 12 May 2014 - 16:33

yeah I know, there is a little bit of Nigel Mansell in all of them.. it just sometimes feels like Lewis is only a moustache and accent short of the full Nigel.

No way near the 'full Nigel' - having had the dubious honour of being treated to Nigel in full 'winge' mode after he deposited his car at my feet early in his career, I can assure you that Lewis's comments on the radio yesterday comes over as a full on love-fest!

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 16:38

Nico is going to be rejuvenated when he hears about these messages and hears how rattled Hamilton was in the other car.  Applying a bit of pressure to Hamilton is what will cause an opening for Rosberg to take advantage as it is Hamilton's main weakness.  Rosberg had managed to put the pressure in place but unfortunately for him even though Hamilton was driving poorly Nico still couldn't finish the job.

 

Rosberg now must strike back in Monaco to have any chance of staying in the wdc battle this season.

 

I see what you saying but I see it a different way. I think Nico will be gutted when he see's how poorly Hamilton's car was handling from onboards and realise he should have won. To me all Hamilton's radio messages showed was how determined he was to win, that is the kind of passion which makes F1 for me.


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Posted 12 May 2014 - 19:22

The best working relationships are not always calm and cool. Sometimes (and I know because I've had such relationships in the past) people are quite strong in vocalising their disagreement or frustration with another person, but it's all just about the way they work together to produce brilliant results. It has nothing to do with lack of respect or lack of professionalism.



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Posted 12 May 2014 - 22:17

I wonder what the story is with that


I think Lewis engineers made an error of judgment, Toto wants to know exactly what happened and what led to it. Lewis must have been very angry and vocal in the garage. Personally I sensed a tone of distrust and anger from Lewis - possibly for effect -. They will learn from it and move on. One message is clear, Lewis is going to fight his corner hard and he is not going to tolerate any avoidable mistake. I also think this will kick out any lax in his side of the garage - if there was one.

I don't see any negatives for Lewis in these moving forward, from what I have seen so far, he has demonstrated strong and positive leadership.

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 00:02

Because Lewis nearly cried, while Raikkonen, just said to his race engineer to shut up. In the end I really don't care what he said on the radio, as long he took the win, there is no way to blame him. On the other hand you get the feeling he needs sometimes something to justify his performance, if he doesn't crush Rosberg. Whenever Rosberg is close you can take a bet, Lewis will say his rear is sliding or he had setup issues or his tires are gone, loved the engineer who told him, that everything was fine. It was like, what you are talking about your are fast enough to win, don't get the fuss

 

No, his words were "don't f***ing yell at me!" at India 2013.



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Posted 13 May 2014 - 07:52

I would prefer watching entire races with just cockpit radio and no announcer VO....

 

Lewis gets tense.  So what, he's probably the best driver on the grid - "well, sorry Mr. Hamilton, we're going to have to let you go from the firm because we don't care for your radio patois".  :rolleyes:

 

 

We don't know what directives he's given his engineer, and in the case regarding his wing setting - he's upset because he's being told something that runs counter to what he's asked for.  Why shouldn't he get tense on the radio in that circumstance???



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Posted 13 May 2014 - 07:56

Nico is going to be rejuvenated when he hears about these messages and hears how rattled Hamilton was in the other car.  Applying a bit of pressure to Hamilton is what will cause an opening for Rosberg to take advantage as it is Hamilton's main weakness.  Rosberg had managed to put the pressure in place but unfortunately for him even though Hamilton was driving poorly Nico still couldn't finish the job.

 

Rosberg now must strike back in Monaco to have any chance of staying in the wdc battle this season.

 

Desperation!
 



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Posted 13 May 2014 - 07:58

I would prefer watching entire races with just cockpit radio and no announcer VO....

 

Lewis gets tense.  So what, he's probably the best driver on the grid - "well, sorry Mr. Hamilton, we're going to have to let you go from the firm because we don't care for your radio patois".  :rolleyes:

 

 

We don't know what directives he's given his engineer, and in the case regarding his wing setting - he's upset because he's being told something that runs counter to what he's asked for.  Why shouldn't he get tense on the radio in that circumstance???

 

Because Chip, he is Lewis Hamilton and everything he does requires extensive pyschoanalysis!

 

He'd probably be having a great laugh reading this thread!



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Posted 13 May 2014 - 13:08

I don't know what they're like behind closed doors, but from the outside, swapping-over Bonnington and Clear from their current race and performance engineer roles seems like it might possibly be an idea.

Bonno can occasionally sound and behave just a little too much like the McLaren engineers that Lewis left that team to get away from, which clearly aggravates or frustrates Lewis to some extent. Whereas Jock always seemed to me to be a bit of a street brawler, a more rough and tumble, raw-meat, aggressively competitive individual that you probably wouldn't want to tangle with in a pub car park, the kind of guy that Lewis would perhaps better appreciate having on the radio whenever he's locked in a tough battle.

 

But like I say, I could be miles off.

The other more general suggestion would be that top drivers thought about hiring their own race engineer, like golfers do caddies. Drivers are never certain if the R/E is fully working for them or for the team. It would be their own engineer that would interface with the team's engineering staff, gathered information, made requests/demands, monitored the team's intended program and car changes, offered the driver technical advice, and then ran the radio.

The team would have to inform/convince the engineer of major setup changes rather than bamboozle a driver in a post practice debrief. Of course if the race engineer wasn't doing what the driver wanted/needed, instead of getting annoyed about it, they would have the option to fire and hire someone that better suited their style.



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Posted 13 May 2014 - 13:14

Because Chip, he is Lewis Hamilton and everything he does requires extensive pyschoanalysis!

Yahoo reading into those harmless exchanges between Lewis and Nico at the post-qualifying press-conference, and describing their rivalry as a "feud" was a new low.



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#180 DinosaursRoarForHugs

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 13:26

I really don't understand the nonsense in this thread.

 

Hamilton won the race. He was being caught by a faster teammate on better and fresher tyres, whilst himself driving a car that he'd been struggling with all race. I'd be more worried as a team if my driver weren't getting stressed in that situation.

It's not like he cracked under the pressure and conceded first to Rosberg. I could imagine myself being pretty agitated if I were having to keep a lively car under control while my teammate was seemingly cruising along quite comfortably at a similar pace...

 

I don't disagree that sometimes he can come across as a bit of a t-word on the radio, but frankly if that wins him races then it's fine. Sadly not every person behaves perfectly all the time, unlike us, veritable guardians of etiquette, rationality and decorum that we are



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Posted 13 May 2014 - 13:31

Some people are very very very very sensitive over these type of topics.  I am scared to say anything it's like walking in a minefield.

 

I was entertained by Lewis' radio on Sunday.



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Posted 13 May 2014 - 16:51

I don't know what they're like behind closed doors, but from the outside, swapping-over Bonnington and Clear from their current race and performance engineer roles seems like it might possibly be an idea.

Bonno can occasionally sound and behave just a little too much like the McLaren engineers that Lewis left that team to get away from, which clearly aggravates or frustrates Lewis to some extent. Whereas Jock always seemed to me to be a bit of a street brawler, a more rough and tumble, raw-meat, aggressively competitive individual that you probably wouldn't want to tangle with in a pub car park, the kind of guy that Lewis would perhaps better appreciate having on the radio whenever he's locked in a tough battle.

 

But like I say, I could be miles off.

The other more general suggestion would be that top drivers thought about hiring their own race engineer, like golfers do caddies. Drivers are never certain if the R/E is fully working for them or for the team. It would be their own engineer that would interface with the team's engineering staff, gathered information, made requests/demands, monitored the team's intended program and car changes, offered the driver technical advice, and then ran the radio.

The team would have to inform/convince the engineer of major setup changes rather than bamboozle a driver in a post practice debrief. Of course if the race engineer wasn't doing what the driver wanted/needed, instead of getting annoyed about it, they would have the option to fire and hire someone that better suited their style.

 

This ....