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Monaco 2014 - did Rosberg park it?


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Did Rosberg park it deliberately?

  1. Yes (459 votes [49.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 49.41%

  2. No (470 votes [50.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.59%

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#101 K-One

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:23

Seems that Nico is hungrier than Lewis

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#102 r4mses

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:23

Having raced F1 sims at Monaco for about 8 years I can say with 100% confidence yes he did park it. His line is wrong, his hand movements are wrong and his lockup comes way to late for him to have trouble making the corner. He could of easily turned in much earlier when there was no lockup but was busy doing weird things on the steering wheel.

 

Are you serious? Are. You. Serious? :D this thread gets even better then I expected.



#103 Niceone

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:23

This might ending up look like 2007 all over again, nnly that I doubt Rosberg can give serious problems to Hamilton over the course of a full season

In 2007 they were trying to give WDC to Hamilton. For example during last GP weekend they overlooked how Hamilton TWICE slowed down Raikkonen during qualifying. He used wrong tyres in P1, but no .penalty..despite this same thing has always caused penalty



#104 RuleyRamundo

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:24

2014 just got real interesting.



#105 ensign14

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:24

Not sure whether he parked it, but it's arguably only relevant to the severity of the penalty, rather than whether there should be one; Rosberg was obviously in breach of rule 31.7.

 

His celebration though was a disgrace.  Like Suarez being carried around the pitch after he punched Ghana out of the World Cup semis.

 

Psychological advantage again goes to Hamilton.  "He celebrates like a winner having fluked a default win?  He really knows he can't beat me any other way, doesn't he?"



#106 study

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:24

Calm down.

 

He didn't reverse out onto the track. If it was deliberate, he'd have touched the barriers.

 

But carry on with your 'Rosberg is a cheat' crusade.

 

He would not touch the barriers and damage he's car, people stop repeating this stupid statement



#107 charly0418

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:24

AutoLewis forum strikes again. :rotfl:

 

LOL!



#108 DarthWillie

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:25

am I the only one that is amazed there was a yellow flag with Nico so far up the escaperoad?



#109 BrakeL8

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:25

The reversing with a few seconds to go PROVES he was cheating. He could have drove right to the end of the run off, waited for 60 seconds, then reversed back slowly. The cars are capable of that. Why reserves back on the track with only a few seconds to go after an incident like that!



#110 JRUK

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:25

Remember how Schumacher reacted after his parking?

 

No, I do not remember the exact reaction of a driver after a qualifying session that happened 8 years ago.

 

But assuming that Schumacher did celebrate, do you remember the punishment Schumacher got after his parking? Why would Rosberg be trying to copy him? The fact that we all know what punishment Schumacher got for parking deliberately is more reason for Rosberg to make it look like he made a mistake rather than stand around celebrating.


Edited by JRUK, 24 May 2014 - 13:27.


#111 BorkoF2012

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:25

I am honestly very disappointed to see so many people thinking Rosberg did that deliberately.



#112 bourbon

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:26

Nico didn't do it on purpose - he doesn't play that way.  If anything I'd go with karma serving up some Stevenage Soup.



#113 Hanzo

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:26

The way Lewis answered to the journalists questions says it all.

Anyway It does not matter if it was on purpose or not, good news for us is that everything is going to spice up even more from now on :D



#114 SenorSjon

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:26

Quite - there is no precedent in Rosberg's prior seven seasons to suggest foul play. Rosberg might have pushed more in the knowledge he had provisional pole, possibly making it more likely he would make an error, but that doesn't mean he made a "deliberate" error.

 

Sweeping across the track on straights to push others off is deliberate in my book. His nice goldylock looks and reputation helped him escape penalties before.



#115 Zippity

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:26

It was a green personal best, as per the official live timing app, and may have gone faster through both the second and final sector,

 

No it wasn't.

 

It was WHITE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



#116 HP

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:26

Are you serious? Are. You. Serious? :D this thread gets even better then I expected.

Lets hope they resurface Monaco in F1 sims too ;)


Edited by HP, 24 May 2014 - 13:27.


#117 karlth

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:26

Ted Kravitz says he has asked a number of team bosses and engineers and all say this was deliberate.



#118 Niceone

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:26

The more i watch it the more i think it was deliberate. And when i watch Schumacher 2006, i think it's the same.. They both move the steering wheel left right left right..

 

It's easy to lose control in that corner (Ericsson vs.Massa). Do you think you have enough grip to turn car before barriers or do you continue straight? 



#119 hollowstar

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:27

Ted Kravitz says he has asked a number of team bosses and engineers and all say this was deliberate.

 

If this is the case, there is no way Rosberg will escape a penalty. 



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#120 Jejking

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:27

And? Then you wouldn't be able to say that Rosberg parked it, since Hamilton would make the same mistake, so that scenario doesn't really matter. Plus Rosberg was REALLY REALLY FAR, you could stop 2-3 times in that little alley before hitting Rosberg.

I know what you are saying, Hamilton was not very far behind him and Rosberg told in the pressco that he was reversing already back onto the track when Hamilton flew past.



#121 Asterion

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:27

I have to go out, but I am going to laugh my ass off if Rosberg gets penalized in a few hours for this deliberate attempt at ruining Ham's last lap.

#122 study

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:27

All the pitlane are saying delibrate, I wonder if stewards will look at it unfortunatly theres not a rival to complain



#123 D.M.N.

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:27

FIA investigating according to Sky F1 Insider



#124 Jon83

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:27

Nico didn't do it on purpose - he doesn't play that way.  If anything I'd go with karma serving up some Stevenage Soup.

 

Well that is the only thing missing isn't it?

 

I'm sure Lewis will manage to find a way to mention the privilaged upbrigning Nico enjoyed despite its lack of relevance.



#125 Lights

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:28

That's a lot of team bosses that want both their cars one spot up on the grid.



#126 BrakeL8

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:28

I am honestly very disappointed to see so many people thinking Rosberg did that deliberately.

 

Most of those in Monaco in the garage in the teams up and down the grid, believe he CHEATED!



#127 RubalSher

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:28

It's easy to lose control in that corner (Ericsson vs.Massa). Do you think you have enough grip to turn car before barriers or do you continue straight? 

 

Ericsson vs Massa was a car on a hot lap vs one trying to give way. Nico had clear road ahead and I dont remember anyone in all of FP or qualy going off where Nico did.



#128 OneAndOnly

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:28

Rosberg never gave away anything that would make him look like dishonest person. I doubt he did this on purpose. 

 

I understand frustration of Ham fans. Not getting pole in Monaco prevents them to live up to dream that Ham is new Senna. That's just sad.



#129 Asterion

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:28

Ted Kravitz says he has asked a number of team bosses and engineers and all say this was deliberate.

but the autosport Hamilton critics are always right!

#130 karlth

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:28

That's a lot of team bosses that want both their cars one spot up on the grid.

 

Yep.   :)

 

Anyone got an onboard?


Edited by karlth, 24 May 2014 - 13:29.


#131 RubalSher

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:29

FIA investigating according to Sky F1 Insider

 

Nice to see Nico starting in the pit lane.



#132 Asterion

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:29

FIA investigating according to Sky F1 Insider

hahaha

#133 Jon83

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:29

I have to go out, but I am going to laugh my ass off if Rosberg gets penalized in a few hours for this deliberate attempt at ruining Ham's last lap.

 

If that does happen then F1 can go to hell.

 

Though for the sake of the championship, I doubt he would be (ROS penalised)
 



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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:29

Sweeping across the track on straights to push others off is deliberate in my book. His nice goldylock looks and reputation helped him escape penalties before.

 

You're describing a racing situation. Hamilton has crowded drivers in such situations, as have countless others. I don't think it's a fair comparison.



#135 Francesc

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:29

You guys believing it wasn't deliberate, you are living on a dream world.



#136 DILLIGAF

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:29

Very hard to prove it was done on purpose, so NO!

 

Alan Jones just said he had several looks at it and it looked like Nico legitimately outbraked himself.

 

Not being a fan of either driver makes the vote a lot easier imho. :cool:



#137 Kvothe

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:29

No it wasn't.

 

It was WHITE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Mate sounds like you're using the free version, Hamilton set a 19.07 which was a personal best and faster than the 19.70 he set on his 'official fastest timed lap'. This was in contrast to Rosberg who set an 18.25 on his first lap, and a 19.5 on the lap he made a mistake.



#138 Heasven

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:29

My first impression was no. I thought he lost time at the exit of casino (left hander ) by being late to get back on the throttle and then he tried to make up for it and made a mistake.

Now reading here how he was entering mirabeau is interesting.

#139 study

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:30

Rosberg never gave away anything that would make him look like dishonest person. I doubt he did this on purpose. 

 

I understand frustration of Ham fans. Not getting pole in Monaco prevents them to live up to dream that Ham is new Senna. That's just sad.

 

And everyone in the pitlane are also Ham fans?



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#140 Asterion

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:30

You guys believing it wasn't deliberate, you are living on a dream world.

the Hamilton hate is strong

#141 mkoscevic

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:30

Seems that Nico is hungrier than Lewis

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#142 surbjits

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:30

That's a lot of team bosses that want both their cars one spot up on the grid.

 

This, obviously.



#143 charly0418

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:30

they're gonna crash each other on turn 1.



#144 george1981

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:30

On Sky Ted Kravitz said that the feeling in the paddock was that Nico did it on purpose.

The good thing about twitter these days is that you can direct your comments directly at the drivers.



#145 Kvothe

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:31

That's a lot of team bosses that want both their cars one spot up on the grid.

I couldn't help thinking that either, the comment one made where he said.....well parking it in racasse has already been done, made me laugh...briefly.



#146 Niceone

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:31

WHY WAS HE REVERSING IF WAS NOT CHEATING, HE SHOULD HAVE DROVE TO THE EDGE OF THE RUN OF. THE REVERSING ENSURED THE YELLOW FLAGS

Using Caps Lock. Did he reverse when there were other cars coming? Was session over back then? Did he know where Hamilton was on track in relation to him? Would those yellows gone away if he had went even further? Would he have known it?



#147 study

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:31

So @nico_rosberg is under investigation by the stewards regarding his trip down the escape road...



#148 4MEN

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:31

Just watch replays. Wrong line, hand movements and too much braking. Bad joke from Niko. Very bad joke.

Hand movements are strange. Also, everybody says he's very clever.   ;)


Edited by 4MEN, 24 May 2014 - 13:31.


#149 Goron3

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:31

The reversing with a few seconds to go PROVES he was cheating. He could have drove right to the end of the run off, waited for 60 seconds, then reversed back slowly. The cars are capable of that. Why reserves back on the track with only a few seconds to go after an incident like that!

He didn't reverse for ages mate. He was in the run off for absolutely ages. Also, bare in mind that the SOONER he reversed, the QUICKER the flags would have disappeared.



#150 race addicted

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 13:31

I've lost respect for rosberg, 'cause that was on purpose, totally. Dumbest bit of "dramatic" steering I've seen!