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#1 RonnyRonny

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 20:03

http://news.sky.com/...-isle-of-man-tt

 

 

OMG 

 

RIP.



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#2 Coral

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 20:09

Oh no, I just saw this on Twitter. How awful. :(

 

RIP Karl. :cry:



#3 4MEN

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 20:19

He died doing what he love most. I admire that. Feel sorry for him family.



#4 Sheepmachine

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 20:30

So tragic. :( Was always a fan of him. The thing I best remember is when he was asked what he called his baby "Karl!" Like it was obvious. :)

R.I.P Karl 'bomber' Harris

Edited by Sheepmachine, 03 June 2014 - 20:30.


#5 Paul Parker

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 12:45

As with the Jim Clark Rally tragedy I do wonder how much longer the IoM races can continue, the speeds reached on parts of the course through towns/villages with nothing between the competitors bar walls, posts, trees, other natural hazards etc., and spectators is potentially disastrous.

 

Where for instance would a crashing bike go at the bottom of Bray Hill travelling at over 180 mph? How many people could die as a result? The death toll over the decades is depressingly consistent and now with machines capable of 190 mph plus it seems only a matter of when not if, some major catastrophe occurs.

 

Be assured that I am no fan of legislation of most kinds, or that of the persons who create it, all too often it is a sinecure for seat polishers and control freaks but there must be recognition of when enough is enough.

 

I fervently hope that I am being overly pessimistic but I certainly would not want to be the person in charge of such a hazardous event year after year.



#6 JacnGille

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 12:51

Such sad news.



#7 tifosiMac

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 13:10

As with the Jim Clark Rally tragedy I do wonder how much longer the IoM races can continue, the speeds reached on parts of the course through towns/villages with nothing between the competitors bar walls, posts, trees, other natural hazards etc., and spectators is potentially disastrous.

 

Where for instance would a crashing bike go at the bottom of Bray Hill travelling at over 180 mph? How many people could die as a result? The death toll over the decades is depressingly consistent and now with machines capable of 190 mph plus it seems only a matter of when not if, some major catastrophe occurs.

 

Be assured that I am no fan of legislation of most kinds, or that of the persons who create it, all too often it is a sinecure for seat polishers and control freaks but there must be recognition of when enough is enough.

 

I fervently hope that I am being overly pessimistic but I certainly would not want to be the person in charge of such a hazardous event year after year.

I hope it never gets banned regardless of the dangers I have to say. Its the greatest race on earth and it would be a bigger loss for it to disappear completely IMO. Its great for the Island too.

 

Sad to lose Bomber though as I said on the Bike thread.  :(



#8 DampMongoose

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 13:49

Very sad, two lost this week already :(



#9 Disgrace

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 13:56

As with the Jim Clark Rally tragedy I do wonder how much longer the IoM races can continue, the speeds reached on parts of the course through towns/villages with nothing between the competitors bar walls, posts, trees, other natural hazards etc., and spectators is potentially disastrous.

 

Where for instance would a crashing bike go at the bottom of Bray Hill travelling at over 180 mph? How many people could die as a result? The death toll over the decades is depressingly consistent and now with machines capable of 190 mph plus it seems only a matter of when not if, some major catastrophe occurs.

 

Be assured that I am no fan of legislation of most kinds, or that of the persons who create it, all too often it is a sinecure for seat polishers and control freaks but there must be recognition of when enough is enough.

 

I fervently hope that I am being overly pessimistic but I certainly would not want to be the person in charge of such a hazardous event year after year.

 

The danger of the racing and the danger posed to spectators are surely two different issues. I think it's potentially misleading to group together spectators allegedly disregarding safety advice (rules?) and competitors taking part in a world-renowned challenge. I doubt it was your intention, but such rhetoric should be reserved for the "seat polishers" that you describe.


Edited by Disgrace, 04 June 2014 - 14:03.


#10 Paul Parker

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 14:25

The danger of the racing and the danger posed to spectators are surely two different issues. I think it's potentially misleading to group together spectators allegedly disregarding safety advice (rules?) and competitors taking part in a world-renowned challenge. I doubt it was your intention, but such rhetoric should be reserved for the "seat polishers" that you describe.

 

I think the two are intertwined when racing on open road 'courses' such as the IoM, but I did not allege that the IoM spectators were disregarding safety rules (which they self evidently were not) or even those on the Jim Clark Rally.

 

Rather it is the close proximity of high speed racing in this instance and ditto the rallying, to spectators at all that is the actual problem.

 

An analogy can be made with flying, everything is OK until something goes badly wrong after which you stand a very good chance of dying or being seriously injured unless you are fantastically lucky.

 

Meanwhile these latest and distressing events will further encourage and strengthen the arguments for more control and ultimately abolition by the aforementioned 'seat polishers'.

 

It was accidents such as these that led to the end of the Mille Miglia and other racing venues of past decades, in my opinion some restraining measures on spectator viewing should be considered before we have a comparable disaster.



#11 Disgrace

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 14:33

I think the two are intertwined when racing on open road 'courses' such as the IoM, but I did not allege that the IoM spectators were disregarding safety rules (which they self evidently were not) or even those on the Jim Clark Rally.

 

Perhaps I should have been clearer in that by "spectators allegedly disregarding safety advice", I was referring to those who tragically lost their lives at the Jim Clark Rally.