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#201 Dolph

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 02:54

Forrest attending the race as well.



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#202 Prost1997T

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 02:54

Hooray! The race team sponsored by a racist wins!

 

Did I miss something about Fuzzy's?



#203 Risil

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 02:55

Did I miss something about Fuzzy's?

 

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#204 Dolph

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 02:55

Montoya doesn't look appy



#205 teejay

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 02:56

No he doesnt - but had he pitted, probably would of finished 2nd or 3rd anyhow. 



#206 SR388

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 02:56

Did I miss something about Fuzzy's?

 

 

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#207 PayasYouRace

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 02:56

Schwing.

 

 

Last time the same car number won with two drivers in the same year? 

 

 

The only thing I can think of is NASCAR 2002 when Sterling Marlin won for Ganassi in the #40, got injured, and his replacement McMurray also won.

 

Junqueira and Servia in the No.2 Newman/Haas car in 2005.



#208 Risil

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 02:56

"Penalties are crazy man, I get them every race."

That Stupid Quotes from Drivers thread could've been invented for Willy P.



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Posted 08 June 2014 - 02:57

Is one of those Carpenter kids the future owner of Indianapolis Motor Speedway?



#210 Risil

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 02:58

While I go off to get some sleep, I'll leave you with a question.

 

Where would Ed Carpenter and Mike Conway be in the championship if they were one driver?

 

I read that as "Where would Ed Carpenter and Mike Conway be in the championship if they had one liver?", so I think I need some sleep too.

 

Great race. Tense and carnage free and although fire's never a funny thing two cars humorously caught fire. See y'all at Montreal.


Edited by Risil, 08 June 2014 - 03:00.


#211 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 03:00

I forget Servia won...



#212 HaydenFan

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 03:04

While I go off to get some sleep, I'll leave you with a question.

 

Where would Ed Carpenter and Mike Conway be in the championship if they were one driver?

 

7th w/ 225 points. Conway's win really offsets some disappointing finishes. 



#213 HistoryFan

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 03:07

Are there more examples for 2 drivers won with the same car in IndyCar history?

Carpenter/Conway 2014 (Carpenter)

Servia/Juncqueira 2005 (Newman Haas)

 

And what were the last car owners winning with the own car?

Carpenter 2014

Rahal in 1992

Foyt in 1981



#214 HaydenFan

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 03:26

Are there more examples for 2 drivers won with the same car in IndyCar history?

Carpenter/Conway 2014 (Carpenter)

Servia/Juncqueira 2005 (Newman Haas)

 

And what were the last car owners winning with the own car?

Carpenter 2014

Rahal in 1992

Foyt in 1981

 

Did Michael Andretti have any ownership stake in his "Team Motorola" Team Green entry in 2002 when he won at Long Beach?

 

Eddie Cheever had 5 IRL wins as a team owner. Last one in 2001. Also was the owner of the 1998 Indy 500 winning car (last driver/owner to do so). 



#215 paulb

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 03:31

Damn, I missed a good ending..

 

Glad to see Ed won.



#216 teejay

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 04:15

Yeah Mikey did have a part of Team Green



#217 HistoryFan

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 08:43

Did Michael Andretti have any ownership stake in his "Team Motorola" Team Green entry in 2002 when he won at Long Beach?

 

Eddie Cheever had 5 IRL wins as a team owner. Last one in 2001. Also was the owner of the 1998 Indy 500 winning car (last driver/owner to do so). 

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#218 Dolph

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 09:59


And what were the last car owners winning with the own car?

Carpenter 2014

Rahal in 1992

Foyt in 1981

 

Carpenter 2012



#219 Sheepmachine

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 11:08

Quick question. Is it worth me watching the re run on in a few mins or was it a snooze fest?

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#220 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 11:13

I wouldn't count Andretti's Team Green deal. I think the equity was just part of his compensation offer. If he had won in the IRL years when it was Andretti-Green that'd be closer because he became more and more involved in how it was run. Andretti probably had as much input at Newman-Haas as he did in 2001.



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Posted 08 June 2014 - 14:02

Quick question. Is it worth me watching the re run on in a few mins or was it a snooze fest?

 

I liked it, but parts of it were not great. The last 12 laps are well worth watching.


Edited by Dolph, 08 June 2014 - 14:22.


#222 John B

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 14:03

Also for the owner/winner list: Adrian Fernandez, Portland 2003.


Edited by John B, 08 June 2014 - 14:04.


#223 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 14:10

I think Fernandez won later on in the IRL too. 



#224 Risil

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 14:28

Jim Guthrie in 1997?



#225 PayasYouRace

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 14:34

I think Fernandez won later on in the IRL too. 

 

Yes in 2004.



#226 Dmitriy_Guller

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 14:35

I think Fernandez won later on in the IRL too. 

I don't understand what went on with Fernandez in IRL.  First year he and his team come over, and he wins 3 races.  Sounds like an excellent start to build on.  Except they're gone the next year.  WTF?



#227 Dolph

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 14:42

I don't understand what went on with Fernandez in IRL.  First year he and his team come over, and he wins 3 races.  Sounds like an excellent start to build on.  Except they're gone the next year.  WTF?

 

I've wondered that myselt



#228 Risil

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 14:48

I don't understand what went on with Fernandez in IRL.  First year he and his team come over, and he wins 3 races.  Sounds like an excellent start to build on.  Except they're gone the next year.  WTF?

 

Wouldn't have been the first or last competitor whose distaste for IRL management exceeded desire to win in open-wheel. For a while at least the ALMS was a better series to race in anyway.



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Posted 08 June 2014 - 14:52

I just looked it up because something about that didn't seem right. 2005/2006 it as that Aguri/Fernandez/Nunn? thingy with Sharp and Matsuura. 



#230 Dmitriy_Guller

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 14:55

Wouldn't have been the first or last competitor whose distaste for IRL management exceeded desire to win in open-wheel. For a while at least the ALMS was a better series to race in anyway.

I think by 2004-2005, IRL was the clear victor of the Indycar civil war, and every big name except Newman-Haas and Forsythe had already switched over.  If you compare ALMS to the IRL of 1999, then you may have somewhat of a point (though I still have doubts that ALMS could be a superior option over anything other than maybe the other sportscar series, that series was DOA).



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Posted 08 June 2014 - 14:56

Money. Probably due to Fernandez being backed by many Mexican companies, and still with 2 races in the country (plus the close to the border LBGP) at the time in Champ Car, when he bolted, they were not very happy. Especially in the way in which he left. Was on the entry list for Long Beach in '04, but decided not to. Remember, he missed the first race of the IRL season as well that year, because of the Long Beach incident. 

 

 

I think by 2004-2005, IRL was the clear victor of the Indycar civil war, and every big name except Newman-Haas and Forsythe had already switched over.  If you compare ALMS to the IRL of 1999, then you may have somewhat of a point (though I still have doubts that ALMS could be a superior option over anything other than maybe the other sportscar series, that series was DOA).

 
I'd say the ALMS had a few issues right away. Panoz just was unable to compete with Audi in P1. So when you had 9-10 of the 10 races a year being won by the Audi team, people got bored. Especially when the Daytona Prototype became popular in about '04-'05 (intro'd in '03), and just about everyone had a shot at winning in the first few years. 
 
Fernandez was in the same boat as Andretti in the sportscar game. Adrian got offered a bunch of money from Honda to run a team, and he took it. Like he should have. 

Edited by HaydenFan, 08 June 2014 - 14:59.


#232 Dmitriy_Guller

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 14:58

I just looked it up because something about that didn't seem right. 2005/2006 it as that Aguri/Fernandez/Nunn? thingy with Sharp and Matsuura. 

My memory was faulty.  Only Fernandez himself bowed out, his team kept going in Indycars for two more years.  It still seems strange that a driver wins 3 races, and is out of a ride next year, while owning a race team.



#233 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 15:03

No I remembered it similar, I thought it was just the Adrian show so I looked up the history of Fernandez Racing rather than him specifically. Because it did seem weird, he'd have been on Honda-bucks, hence the sensible move to Acura ALMS some years later. 



#234 HistoryFan

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 19:18

Jim Guthrie in 1997?

 

so was Blueprint Racing his team?

 



#235 Risil

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 20:17

so was Blueprint Racing his team?

 

Yep. Found this on Google. We don't take pre-grandee IRL very seriously now but it was a great story.



#236 rodlamas

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Posted 12 June 2014 - 11:37

Just as previewed.

 

What an as**ole of a Indy-500 RHR was. After that race, 4 crashes and a blown engine.



#237 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 12 June 2014 - 12:05

....what?



#238 Prost1997T

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Posted 12 June 2014 - 13:48

Luca Filippi's back, with RLLR this time for Houston and Toronto: http://motorsportsta...oronto/related/



#239 paulb

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Posted 12 June 2014 - 15:45

^ Thats good news.



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#240 HaydenFan

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Posted 12 June 2014 - 16:07

Very good news indeed. 

 

As for the Hunter-Reay thrashing above. Having a bad run after Indy is nothing new. Rick Mears had 3 DNF's in the 4 races after his final Indy win in '91. Sullivan took a fourth at Milwaukee in '85, but retired from the next 4 races. Even more modern, last year's winner, Tony Kanaan was unable to get out of his own way in the next two races after Indy in Belle Isle, unable to crack the top 10. That was bad driving. Hunter-Reay wasn't bad driving. That was just bad luck. Plus, outside a podium in race one last year, he was been bad in the Motor City. Can't blame a blown engine. Nobody's fault.



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Posted 03 July 2014 - 23:29

 

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