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#1 Borko

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 11:56

I saw a few topics like this about some other sports in some other forums, so maybe it would be interesting to do the unpopular opinions topic about F1.

 

But please, the point of this topic is not to argue with the other people's opinion (if somebody states his/her unpopular opinion, for exapmle "Driver XY didn't deserve the title in that year", please don't start arguing with that member, that's not the point of this topic), let the people state their opinions and just acknowledge what they think.

 

Thank you :)



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#2 SR388

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 11:59

Lewis Hamilton is better than Vettel and Schumacher.

#3 Borko

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 11:59

My unpopular opinion:

 

I've never understood why so many people think Hulkenberg is such a good driver and what's so special about him.



#4 photon

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:03

Vettel is likely the best current driver in F1 and will probably be the only one remembered as an all-time great.



#5 SR388

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:05

Lewis Hamilton would be better off if he was American. We do a better job of treating our superstars fairly and with more respect than the Europeans do, who throw bananas and ape calls at them.

#6 Zava

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:05

Lewis Hamilton is better than Vettel and Schumacher.

I found that a pretty popular opinion (well, at least the first part). being popular doesn't make it right for me tho, so mine is...

 

Lewis Hamilton is worse than Vettel and Schumacher.

:p



#7 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:06

Well he'd be better off if he raced in America. An black American in F1 would get everything Hamilton does + more.



#8 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:07

Despite what many think and the WC standings say, Massa is a better driver than Bottas.



#9 Longtimefan

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:07

My unpopular opinions:-

1: Ham, Ros, Vet etc, aren't fit to clean Jim Clark's boots.

2: Current day F1 is an incredibly pale shadow of it's former self.

3: (censored.. so not to get banned)

#10 ollebompa

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:08

Prost better than Senna



#11 alframsey

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:11

Not sure if this is popular or unpopular tbh:

 

Lewis Hamilton, while he is my favourite driver, is not the second coming. Great though he undoubtedly is.



#12 Borko

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:14

If we look at all four seasons they spent together in BMW, Nick Heidfeld was better than Robert Kubica.



#13 AvranaKern

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:15

I find Raikkonen's seemingly detached and nonchalant behaviour as a means to strengthening his perceived cool persona, thus making it another PR attempt, albeit unconsciously, in my eyes.



#14 Farhannn15

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:17

Don't get me wrong, Nico Hulkenburg is a good driver but I feel he is slightly overrated. Who knows maybe I'll be proven wrong in the future

#15 syolase

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:17

Alonso only has 5 tenths



#16 Sheepmachine

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:19

I don't get the hype over Raikkonen and why he is such a legend :|
Also Vettel is very talented and it hasn't been just down to his car being these past 4 seasons.

Ok now I'm going to grab my hard hat and get in a bunker and take cover.

#17 Borko

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:21

Rubens Barrichello was a great driver, maybe even deserved to have one championship.



#18 Jackmancer

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:21

I want F1 to go full electric.



#19 Jackmancer

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:22

Rubens Barrichello was a great driver, maybe even deserved to have one championship.

Sure, at whinging. 



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#20 eronrules

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:22

senna wouldn't have risen to his current god-hood if he was alive today. we all love to worship a young dead hero, not an old aging legend.



#21 teejay

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:25

Kimi is no longer one of the best in the sport.



#22 eronrules

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:27

Sure, at whinging. 

i thought Button already won that.



#23 tmzxaar

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:29

Lewis Hamilton is two fat levels above all drivers in terms of talent, but that doesn't translate into success because of his behaviour and mostly bad luck. He should have been a 3-time WDC by now.

 

 

Alonso's 2012 was not god level, it was pretty great, but he would often get places by other's failures, he was number 1 in the team and he had Massa as his teammate.



#24 Lights

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:30

Vettel wasn't the most deserving driver to win the 2010 and 2012 WDC's.



#25 spacekid

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:30

We all go on far too much about the drivers. The determining factor has always been the car, and it always will be.

#26 Jon83

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:30

Lewis Hamilton would be better off if he was American. We do a better job of treating our superstars fairly and with more respect than the Europeans do, who throw bananas and ape calls at them.

 

Yes because the actions of a few represent the wider European community. 



#27 F. Scaramanga

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:33

I can´t live without Formula 1.  :(



#28 RubalSher

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:36

1. Reverse grids (mixed or otherwise)

2. One day event, scrap Friday n Saturday.. Who has the time these days to waste 3 days when only Sunday counts.



#29 KingB

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:38

GP2 is much more interesting than F1 and provides better racing



#30 Logiso

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:39

Kimi's best years in F1 were a decade ago, and that Massa's performances compared to Bottas have been pretty good putting into perspective the job Alonso has done in the last few years in a sport that is mainly decided by car performance.

 

Also I'd agree that Hamilton is by far the most talented driver on the grid but his own attitude and ability to deal with expectations defeat him most of the time


Edited by Logiso, 08 June 2014 - 12:41.


#31 Ali_G

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:40

That you shouldn't be allowed hug the racing line at will on the exit of corners in the case of this causing an accident with a driver outside you.

 

Most posters on the forum who have been watching F1 for about 5 or 6 years believe this view is abhorrent.



#32 DriveFastLiveSlow

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:40

I hate the Hamilton hype and I believe he is the most over rated driver on the grid.



#33 Borko

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:42

Sebastien Bourdais was not as disastrous in 2008 as many people think, he was extremely unlucky. Lost the 4th place in Australia because of the engine failure. Lost the 6th place in Japan because FIA had to give Massa 1 point to make championship more interesting. Fell short of the 3rd place in Belgium by less than a lap.



#34 Massa_f1

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:42

 

 Current day F1 is an incredibly pale shadow of it's former self.

 

 

This,

 

and

 

Lewis Hamilton is not as good as British TV pundits make him out to be. The SKY F1 crew in particular.

 

#35 HaydenFan

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:43

We all go on far too much about the drivers. The determining factor has always been the car, and it always will be.

 

This.

 

Alonso is past his prime. His two titles are reaching a decade ago.

 

The manufacturer spending battle of the early 2000's hurt the sport more than the loss of the tobacco money. The spending of BMW, Honda and Toyota with the lack of results ruined the mid pack. Brought the gap from first to last closer, but to compete in F1 requires backing from entire national industries to operate (Maldonado). 



#36 ANF

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:46

There is too much overtaking in Formula One today.



#37 sheepgobba

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:50

Bring back the V10s, go back to 2008 Aero cars and put DRS on em if you want overtaking. 

 

Find Button overrated.



#38 Ali_G

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:51

F1 from the 90s onward did not need more overtaking.  It needed more close racing.  The addition of DRS has done nothing but reduce close racing even further and has given F1 a completely artificial feel.



#39 P123

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:51

Unpopular views....?

I'd take JB over Kimi any day of the week.

Vettel perhaps fortunate to have two of his WDCs- 2010, 2012.

Vettel's 2011 WDC campaign about the best you will ever see.

People who take offence at Hamilton's overly emotional outbursts have similar character traits themselves.

2014 engines sound great.

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#40 Lazy

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:53

The Old Dinosaurs, LdM, Ron Dennis and especially Bernie, are the main problem for F1 atm.  



#41 sennafan24

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:53

Prost better than Senna

And I liked you man   ;)

 

Seriously, whilst I disagree, Prost was an all-time great, and I think there is a reasonable argument he is the best F1 driver ever. 

 

I hate the Hamilton hype and I believe he is the most over rated driver on the grid.

I would never have guessed   ;)

 

We all go on far too much about the drivers. The determining factor has always been the car, and it always will be.

Agreed

 

Vettel wasn't the most deserving driver to win the 2010 and 2012 WDC's.

Not sure about 2010, but I agree on 2012. I felt Lewis and Alonso deserved it more

 

If we look at all four seasons they spent together in BMW, Nick Heidfeld was better than Robert Kubica.

No sure about that, but I will add that I think Kubica is overrated by some.

 

senna wouldn't have risen to his current god-hood if he was alive today. we all love to worship a young dead hero, not an old aging legend.

Disagree

 

In terms of pure pace and charisma, Senna is unrivaled. He is/was the perfect poster boy for F1 (I can attest to that as I have a lovely poster of him currently on my wall  ;) ) 


Edited by sennafan24, 08 June 2014 - 12:54.


#42 Boing 2

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:54

The so called purity (technical and sporting) that hardcore fans continuously demand would kill the sport stone dead if provided.



#43 Seanspeed

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:55

So this is a thread where we can post our biased and ignorant opinions without having to rationally justify them to anyone? Awesome.

#44 GoldenColt

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:55

One of the main reasons why Senna is remember as the greatest driver of all time is his tragic death during the 1994 San Marino GP.

 

A lot of the newly grown Senna-popularity is down to people who have never watched him live and think they know all about the man and all of the circumstances by watching the Senna-movie.



#45 sennafan24

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:58

Some of mine

 

- Alonso was the best driver of the 00's. He impressed me a tad more than Schumi. Overall there is not much between them (despite the difference in WDC's). 

 

- 2012 is the best year of Lewis's career, on that form no one on the grid could touch him

 

- Kimi has been over the hill since 2007, I agree with P123 that Button is the better driver these days, Rosberg as well

 

- Bottas is the most overrated driver on the grid.

 

- Senna would run rings around the twerps who race today ;)



#46 ensign14

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 12:59

Schumacher and Senna were cheats whose effect on the sport was toxic.



#47 P123

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 13:01

If all drivers could race like Montoya there would be no need for guff like DRS. :)

#48 NoSanityClause

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 13:02

Jacques Laffite was underrated.

 

Yuji Ide was involved in fewer accidents than other much higher rated drivers in the same number of races, and he apologised more politely and profusely as well.



#49 sennafan24

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 13:02

Schumacher and Senna were cheats whose effect on the sport was toxic.

Fair enough with Senna

 

But saying that about Schumacher is not really as unpopular opinion. A large portion of fans consider him to be a cheat and a bad influence.



#50 seahawk

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 13:05

His behaviour, character and his management are holding Lewis back, which makes him closer to Mansell than Senna.

 

Kimi is mostly driving for the money today.

 

Webber was really below average.