119 replies to this topic

[xmoonrakerx]

Why are his pitstops ALWAYS slower than Nico's? There gotta be something else happening here

[Diablobb81]

Last race faster pitstops were split and today Lewis got the undercut.

 

Any more stupid questions?

Edited by Diablobb81, 22 June 2014 - 13:06.

[mgs315]

Seriously? I'm aggravated by the slower stops too but sabotage? I'll have what you're smoking.

[Disgrace]

I'm convinced Mercedes are in fact a front for a secret Illuminati racing team.

[SR388]

I'm interested. Tell me more.

[Farhannn15]

Surprised it took this long for Hamilton fans to make these threads. I bet you weren't complaining of sabotage when he won four on a trot........

[sennafan24]

Not a conspiracy 

 

But the difference today has been the pit stops swinging in Nico's favor. If they would have been equal, Lewis would probably be ahead.

[SR388]

Surprised it took this long for Hamilton fans to make these threads. I bet you weren't complaining of sabotage when he won four on a trot........

I was.

[docronzo]

Fanboy start an online petition!

[stillOrange]

I was.

 

But you're a special one

[Moore]

Seriously, you're putting other LH fans in a bad spotlight with this thread. Unless you're doing it on purpose.

[Altair]

AutoLewis forum in his line. Experts in demonize Hamilton´s rivals. Sorry Nico your the next devil.   

[OvDrone]

[Zava]

Not a conspiracy 

 

But the difference today has been the pit stops swinging in Nico's favor. If they would have been equal, Lewis would probably be ahead.

nah, track position is king. also, Hamilton got the preferential stop second time, despite being behind, sort of compensates for the slow stops 

 

fun fact: even though Hamilton had more bad stops this year, the only one that actually cost track position was Rosberg's, in canada.

[Junky]

[Vic Vega]

Is it because he be black?

[ensign14]

Last race faster pitstops were split and today Lewis got the undercut.

The undercut was not the best strategy. In the context of 2.3s pitstops, for Hamilton to lose 1.9s in stops alone was bizarre. Proportionately a massive underperformance from the Mercedes pits on Hamilton's two stops.

[KingTiger]

nah, track position is king. also, Hamilton got the preferential stop second time, despite being behind, sort of compensates for the slow stops 

 

fun fact: even though Hamilton had more bad stops this year, the only one that actually cost track position was Rosberg's, in canada.

 

Fun fact: Hamilton has had 2 DNF's, while Rosberg hasn't had any. 

[Lights]

Please OP... 

[sennafan24]

The undercut was not the best strategy. In the context of 2.3s pitstops, for Hamilton to lose 1.9s in stops alone was bizarre. Proportionately a massive underperformance from the Mercedes pits on Hamilton's two stops.

This

 

Maybe mods should shut this thread, it is not going to end well

[Jimisgod]

Clearly It's revenge for not visiting the Mercedes-Benz heartland, Croydon.

[surbjits]

Clearly It's revenge for not visiting the Mercedes-Benz heartland, Croydon.

[OO7]

There is no conspiracy, but Mercedes really need to sort out their pit stops.  When the pressure was on Williams did a 2.1 second record stop, Mercedes did a 3.5 or 4.0 seconds stop.

[P123]

Actually, despite the sneering from the dregs it's actually noticeable the lack of urgency the pit crew have when Hamilton pits in comparison to Rosberg, and it shows on the stop watch. Possibly just coincidence, but it's happened in a couple of races now when the battle has been close and the pit stop time critical.

I'm more annoyed at the stage managed engine settings. Rosberg uses considerably more fuel than his teammate, yet his teammate is pegged to run the same settings out of 'fairness'.

[SpartanChas]

It's because the German team Mercedes (based in UK, run by Brits and Austrians with British engineers and mechanics) want the German driver Rosberg (only half German, lived in Monaco all his life) to win.

I am going to start paying closer attention to it though, does seem strange.

[SR388]

Is it because he be black?

Hmm. I wonder if that's a factor. Please elaborate.

[Brother Fox]

Youre either nuts, or this is actually a clever false flag attack from a Rosberg fan

[Borko]

Why are his pitstops ALWAYS slower than Nico's? There gotta be something else happening here

Yeah, sure.

 

[Diablobb81]

The undercut was not the best strategy. In the context of 2.3s pitstops, for Hamilton to lose 1.9s in stops alone was bizarre. Proportionately a massive underperformance from the Mercedes pits on Hamilton's two stops.

 

Of course it was. And they did it to get in front of Bottas.

Edited by Diablobb81, 22 June 2014 - 13:46.

[P123]

This
 
Maybe mods should shut this thread, it is not going to end well

Nah, there is a discussion to be had- perhaps a clean up of the comics would help the topic as well as a change in title which is perhaps too emotive and sends some into troll territory.

[ApexMouse]

Inb4 'mercedes are racist, just like whitmarsh!'

 

The whole chip-on-the-shoulder thing is seriously out of date now guys. 

Edited by ApexMouse, 22 June 2014 - 13:46.

[Brother Fox]

Is it because he be black?

 

 

Hmm. I wonder if that's a factor. Please elaborate.

 

Not what it seems, referencing Lewis making the joke a few years ago

[dweller23]

Mercedes sent an army of invisible people to spin Hamilton yesterday in T2, so it's obvious that they are sabotaging him. Also, they put butter on his tyres.

[Coral]

It's not a conspiracy, don't be ridiculous. Lewis's pit crew are undoubtedly doing a worse job than Nico's, but I don't see it as deliberate.

 

Lewis should have done a better job in qualy and not started ninth on the grid. As simple as that.

[RockyRaccoon68]

Maybe he got his positioning wrong like Mark suggested?  Seems a bit strange for them to be so consistently fast on one car and slow on the other.

[sennafan24]

Nah, there is a discussion to be had- perhaps a clean up of the comics would help the topic as well as a change in title which is perhaps too emotive and sends some into troll territory.

I think a discussion of whether the pitstops will be fine

 

But a conspiracy thread?

[paipa]

**** off OP.

 

Sincerely,

Hamilton fans

[P123]

Surprised it took this long for Hamilton fans to make these threads. I bet you weren't complaining of sabotage when he won four on a trot........

Hamilton fans? It took one person, lets not exaggerate! And I'd say it would be monumentally dishonest not to acknowledge the time lost by Hamilton in the pits in such a close battle is detrimental to his race.

[Cyanide]

[DriveFastLiveSlow]

Why are his pitstops ALWAYS slower than Nico's? There gotta be something else happening here

 

Right. I believe NSA is behind this. Some kind of Washington-Berlin thing in the works.

[paipa]

Nah, there is a discussion to be had- perhaps a clean up of the comics would help the topic as well as a change in title which is perhaps too emotive and sends some into troll territory.

The title itself is troll territory.

[DarthWillie]

ah I remember these questions from the time he was at McLaren were he was also sabotaged against Button. Perhaps it is Lewis himself 

[P123]

I think a discussion of whether the pitstops will be fine
 
But a conspiracy thread?

That's why I said a change in title would be welcome- it's invited many out the woodwork who ain't here to discuss pitstops!

[Riverside]

Last race faster pitstops were split and today Lewis got the undercut.

 

Any more stupid questions?

 

 

   I'm waiting for the group cry .    Montreal - Nico lost the lead because of a pit stop  ...  

[redreni]

Why are his pitstops ALWAYS slower than Nico's? There gotta be something else happening here

 

And the prize for the Hamilton fan with the shortest memory goes to....

 

[P123]

ah I remember these questions from the time he was at McLaren were he was also sabotaged against Button. Perhaps it is Lewis himself 

Could be his positioning in the box needs adjusting.

[f1RacingForever]

The evidence for this is? You are not of sound mind if you actually believe what you wrote.

[Masteroftheuniverse]

Maybe he's just missing his mark in the pitbox? Why would a team sabotage their own driver

 

 

EDIT: P123 beat me to it.

Edited by Masteroftheuniverse, 22 June 2014 - 13:55.

[TurboF1]

Even if its worth an honest debate, Lets not jump straight into the "conspiracy" camp right away please. It detracts from real discussion because its not debatable that Lewis' stops were significantly slower, and judging by the way the race unfolded had Lewis had the same pitstop times as Rosberg he'd have had a much better go at it. That said, its all ifs and buts, but PLEASE, cut this "conspiracy" screaming out, as its obviously just going to invite ridicule from a few camps, and rightly so. It makes Hamilton supporters look bad.

[charly0418]

angry fanboy is angry