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[Magoo]

This in-car video from Subaru at the Isle of Man TT has been catching a lot of notice in the car biz. Check out the driver biometrics across the top of the screen, the car performance info along the bottom... and, of course, the stone walls and hedgerows flying past at 150 mph...

 

 

 

 

Incredible In-Car Video From the Isle of Man | Mac's Motor City Garage.com 

 

 

 

[gruntguru]

Riveting. Great commentary overdub from the driver too.

[chipmcdonald]

It's curious that he's concerned about "the big drops" when he's at the top, when he's basically dead anywhere on the course.  "Chance to pull your belts tight" - hah.

[Kelpiecross]

Keep in mind that the motorbike loonies are more than two minutes a lap faster than the Subaru.

[Canuck]

I was discussing Isle of Man motorcycle loonies over lunch just today.  There is something strangely unique about these riders, hanging it all out, off-the-ground well beyond the triple-digit speeds, coming out of corners on the rear tire, squirming madly...my vocabulary lacks that single word to appropriately sum it all up.  Beautiful organized chaos.

[chipmcdonald]

Keep in mind that the motorbike loonies are more than two minutes a lap faster than the Subaru.

 

 

 Right, but I would presume they don't have any illusions.

[Greg Locock]

Bear with me on this. He averaged about 10% slower than the record. At Phillip Island the record for a modified WRX is 1'45. 10% faster than that is 1'35. That is achievable by a V8 supercar or various openwheelers.

 

Alternatively, the wrx has a TT time around that of a 250, and round Phillip island, about that of the production 250 2 stroke, although way short of a GP 125 or 250. 

 

So to equal the record for a fairly stock motorbike, ridden by a nutter, my guess is you'll need some very serious four wheeled  machinery. Perhaps some niches don't need to be challenged.

Edited by Greg Locock, 06 July 2014 - 11:22.

[Ross Stonefeld]

Isn't there plenty of bike data available for Phillip Island?

 

I think Isle of Man probably rewards the bike more because there's a lot of straight/acceleration.

[Lee Nicolle]

Looking at Mallala [most relevant to me] times the outright record is 1.02 57 from Paul Stokell in a Formula Holden. August 94!! 5000s were low 5s in the late 90s.

Superbike is 1.05 83 a tad slower than Tony Ricciardello in the Alfa/Chev Sports Sedan. Supercar is actually still relevant at 1.08.14 as they really dont go any faster now than in 98! The AWD production car record is Steve Knight in a Lancer at 1. 19.36. I suspect they will be a couple of sec faster now. Bigger tyres and a few more engine freedoms covers that.

The chap doing the clip was not 10/10ths. Though was not hanging around either. I believe the open class bikes are doing 200+mph on the straights, the Subaru made 165. There is most of the time there alone. I doubt the bikes corner faster or come off corners faster. But straight line with their power to weight ratio they are bloody quick

 

Edit, just found PI times. Outright GP bike is 1 28.1. Superbike is  1 32.31. Moto 2 is 1 32.81.

Cars outright, Simon Wills Formula Holden 1 24.22, Supercar 1 32.02

Sports sedan is  1 29.2, Production car [Glen Seton Evo10] is  1 44 39.

Actually the GP bikes are put into perspective with Historic race cars. Paul Stubber March 81C 1 28 711. F5000 Tom Tweedie Chevron 1 28.39 and the Veskanda Sports Car. John Bowe 1 28 98. 

Edited by Lee Nicolle, 07 July 2014 - 05:50.

[Greg Locock]

Yes, i think that's a better approach. he needs more power. not torque., or else chuck a load of weight out. i got the impression a longer diff wouldn't hurt.

Edited by Greg Locock, 07 July 2014 - 03:13.