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#1151 Fastcake

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 22:40

I would just like to echo the complaints about the stupid tat they had for trophies today. These sort of things may seem little, but having a unique trophy for the historic Grands Prix really adds to the prestige of the event. We used to be saved from the glorified sponsors logos at races like Australia and Britain, but now it seems even these events aren't immune.



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#1152 PARAZAR

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 06:18

Shame. I feel bad for the kid that designed those trophies. He/She must have been really proud to have won the competition.

 

What crap trophies! #F1

.@MauriceHamilton We will give you details. The trophy comes from a student who won a competition done worlwide.

8:43 PM - 6 Jul 2014  London, England, United Kingdom

Edited by PARAZAR, 07 July 2014 - 06:18.


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 06:30

Well, if only that rich Santander tried to spent more than 5 pounds on a winning project, there wouldn¨t be so much criticism.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 06:41

Obviously by running a competition Santander got the design for free, and then didn't want to spend anything on the manufacture of the winning design. They didn't look the most sturdy of things.

Edited by P123, 07 July 2014 - 06:45.


#1155 PARAZAR

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 06:44

Obviously by running a competition Santander got the design for free, and then didn't want to spend anything on the manufacture of the winning design.

True. You're pointing out the business side, I was seeing the human side. 



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 07:18


Shame. I feel bad for the kid that designed those trophies. He/She must have been really proud to have won the competition.


Maurice Hamilton @MauriceHamilton

What crap trophies! #F1

twitter_03_normal.jpgFormula Santander @SantanderGPFollow

.@MauriceHamilton We will give you details. The trophy comes from a student who won a competition done worlwide.

8:43 PM - 6 Jul 2014 London, England, United Kingdom


Lol, how small he must feel now

#1157 Lazy

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 07:35

Well, if only that rich Santander tried to spent more than 5 pounds on a winning project, there wouldn¨t be so much criticism.

I'm sure the kid feels much better knowing that.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 07:46

So, I didn't see any topic about it and I'm not sure it deserves its own thread, but what about the Guttierrez-Maldonado incident?

I really thought it was Maldonado's fault (not because he's Maldonado, but because he clearly moved left in the braking area while GUT was committed). Yet it was Guttierrez who got the penalty. What do you guys think?



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:04

I'm sure the kid feels much better knowing that.

 
It is unfortunate if his or her feelings are hurt but the fault is with Santander for placing them in that position in the first place. It could have been given as the Constructors' trophy and it would have been fine.

But this sort of casual junking of tradition for a small chunk of change really needs to be stopped. Imagine everyone gathering on Centre Court yesterday only to see Novak Djokovic not presented with the magnificent and historic link to the past and heritage that is their huge gold trophy after all but instead given some plastic pile of crap shaped vaguely like a bottle of Robinsons Barley Water. Would he and the crowd also not be allowed to cry bullshit at that either because it would upset the designer of the crap new trophy?

I still seriously suspect it was some sort of ghastly mistake and they misplaced the proper one.

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#1160 Andy Davies

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:14

Why take that risk? It's all very well saying it probably won't be hit again, but the fact is it can and repairing the barrier is a much better idea than just crossing your fingers and hoping nothing does happen.

 

That it's happened once means it's just as likely to happen again in the future (probability might be slightly lower due to less cars on the circuit and higher driver awareness)



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:39

 
It is unfortunate if his or her feelings are hurt but the fault is with Santander for placing them in that position in the first place. It could have been given as the Constructors' trophy and it would have been fine.

But this sort of casual junking of tradition for a small chunk of change really needs to be stopped. Imagine everyone gathering on Centre Court yesterday only to see Novak Djokovic not presented with the magnificent and historic link to the past and heritage that is their huge gold trophy after all but instead given some plastic pile of crap shaped vaguely like a bottle of Robinsons Barley Water. Would he and the crowd also not be allowed to cry bullshit at that either because it would upset the designer of the crap new trophy?

I still seriously suspect it was some sort of ghastly mistake and they misplaced the proper one.

Tbh I really couldn't care what trophies multi millionaire sportsmen are given to fill the trophy cabinets in their Feadship. 

 

I'm thinking about the kid excitedly watching the ceremony saying, "look Mummy, thats my trophy!" only for the driver to blurt out "what's this piece of shit?"

 

Seriously, best job in the world and paid millions to do it is an outrage to start with, a little humility wouldn't go amiss.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:41

Santander spending a bit more that £2 on plastic and sellotape wouldn't have gone amiss.

 

Hamilton didn't criticise the design, he criticised the manufacture.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:52

Tbh I really couldn't care what trophies multi millionaire sportsmen are given to fill the trophy cabinets in their Feadship. 
 
I'm thinking about the kid excitedly watching the ceremony saying, "look Mummy, thats my trophy!" only for the driver to blurt out "what's this piece of shit?"
 
Seriously, best job in the world and paid millions to do it is an outrage to start with, a little humility wouldn't go amiss.


You apparently don't know he doesn't get to keep it so it doesn't go in his trophy case anyway. He does know this because he's won it before so the snide little dig at Hamilton is misplaced.

And you are entirely missing my point which is that it is less about the individual winner, it is about the connection between the victory on the day and the link to history, the driver who wins that day is linked, by the presentation of the trophy, to those who have won it before. And who says it's tiny kids ("Look mommy!") designing it anyway? Or are these adult design students as I had thought?


Edited by SophieB, 07 July 2014 - 08:54.
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Posted 07 July 2014 - 08:57

Why take that risk? It's all very well saying it probably won't be hit again, but the fact is it can and repairing the barrier is a much better idea than just crossing your fingers and hoping nothing does happen.

 

because the risk was non existent, no need to cross your fingers and hope and it delayed the race by an 1 hour which is completely unacceptable.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 09:01

You apparently don't know he doesn't get to keep it so it doesn't go in his trophy case anyway. He does know this because he's won it before

I thought that was a McLaren thing?



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 09:04

I thought that was a McLaren thing?

 

Even if McLaren did let drivers keep the trophies, it wouldn't have been theirs to hand across on that occasion. Like the Wimbledon trophy, they just present it to you and then you later give it back. See the earlier pics of other drivers being photographed with it down the years.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 09:09

I thought that was a McLaren thing?

 

In sporting events with a historic trophy, you never get to keep it. The gold British Grand Prix cup doesn't go home with the driver, but they always get a smaller replica or some other one to keep (or the team keeps in McLaren's case). It's just that yesterday they presented the "keeper" on the podium rather than the historic one.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 09:11

Is that a very young Claire Williams?


Claire would have been under ten years old then I think, that's her mum Virginia(Ginny) Frank was still recovering from his accident at the time of the 86 British GP, Ginny died last year and since then Williams cars have a small decal dedicated to her on the front wing pylon.

Edited by Mart280, 07 July 2014 - 09:22.


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 09:12

I'm in no way defending Santander and maybe Lewis didn't know that a kid had designed it. But just take the trophy, you've got the whole world on a platter, be grateful.

 

Again, I seriously doubt the kid would make that distinction.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 09:14

In sporting events with a historic trophy, you never get to keep it. The gold British Grand Prix cup doesn't go home with the driver, but they always get a smaller replica or some other one to keep (or the team keeps in McLaren's case). It's just that yesterday they presented the "keeper" on the podium rather than the historic one.

OK, jumped in a bit blind here, I thought the point was he wouldn't get the one that was presented to keep.

 

Misunderstanding cleared up :)



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 11:35

What was Kimi thinking returning to track like that . That was pretty scary and I am glad everyone involved is ok..massa did a great job, he could have hit his car head on and the accident would have been much worse.
There was grass there Kimi.. Not tarmac.., use common sense ..

Good race by Ricciardo

Alonso excellent once again. I could not watch livetiming since I had to watch a pre-recorded race but I bet he must have been flying in the early stages of the race.

Bummed about Nico.. I was expecting to see a repeat of Bahrain with a thrilling battle for the win.

I don't care about both Alonso and Vettel venting over the radio.. What I care about is good racing and we got that.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 13:52

Wasn't it a university student, so I'm sure they are old enough to take the criticism.

Same trophy in Germany but with black yellow red on the base.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 16:51

I'm in no way defending Santander and maybe Lewis didn't know that a kid had designed it. But just take the trophy, you've got the whole world on a platter, be grateful.

 

Again, I seriously doubt the kid would make that distinction.

Then again after going to all the trouble to design it one would expect they would at least make a effort to ensure it did,nt fall to pieces on the podium, design was ok, built quality shit, about right from my experience with banks  :lol:


Edited by jestaudio, 07 July 2014 - 16:52.


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Posted 07 July 2014 - 17:08

Tbh I really couldn't care what trophies multi millionaire sportsmen are given to fill the trophy cabinets in their Feadship. 

 

I'm thinking about the kid excitedly watching the ceremony saying, "look Mummy, thats my trophy!" only for the driver to blurt out "what's this piece of shit?"

 

Seriously, best job in the world and paid millions to do it is an outrage to start with, a little humility wouldn't go amiss.

 

A lot of journo/commentators gleefully tweeted Lewis's comments on the trophy as 'best comment of the day' etc etc, probably because they thought  it was one in the eye of a completely overly corporate influence on sport, lets face it those trophies were terrible and it's just taking it too far, their name is plastered everywhere, have some decent trophies for god sake, imagine if the wimbledon trophie was a gold slazenger racket or the word up a silver Nike swoosh!

 

I suspect Lewis would be mortified if he later found our they were designed by poor little orphans who hero worshipped him...perhaps less so for Uni students.

 

Anyway, my favourite SIlverstone experience so far and a great weekend to move from pit straight to club and opposite the podium. Saturday felt like everything was going to plan until the last 30 secs, was just as bewildered as Lewis. Sunday felt a little better :-D

 

So reminiscent of 2008. coming into the race after a bad run, a win or so off the championship, needing to turn it around, out qualfiied by his teammate but then getting max points with his main challengers getting none and the championship back on.

 

Hopefully onwards and upwards from here.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 17:09

 
It is unfortunate if his or her feelings are hurt but the fault is with Santander for placing them in that position in the first place. It could have been given as the Constructors' trophy and it would have been fine.

But this sort of casual junking of tradition for a small chunk of change really needs to be stopped. Imagine everyone gathering on Centre Court yesterday only to see Novak Djokovic not presented with the magnificent and historic link to the past and heritage that is their huge gold trophy after all but instead given some plastic pile of crap shaped vaguely like a bottle of Robinsons Barley Water. Would he and the crowd also not be allowed to cry bullshit at that either because it would upset the designer of the crap new trophy?

I still seriously suspect it was some sort of ghastly mistake and they misplaced the proper one.

 

Doh, I should have read up a bit more, you put it so much better than me :)



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 17:11

because the risk was non existent, no need to cross your fingers and hope and it delayed the race by an 1 hour which is completely unacceptable.

 

I would assume that fact that kimi had a 47g impact there would make it obvious the risk wasn't non existent, or am I missing something?



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 17:11

Anyway, my favourite SIlverstone experience so far 

Glad you enjoyed it mate  :up:



#1178 TurboF1

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 17:16

Tbh I really couldn't care what trophies multi millionaire sportsmen are given to fill the trophy cabinets in their Feadship. 

 

I'm thinking about the kid excitedly watching the ceremony saying, "look Mummy, thats my trophy!" only for the driver to blurt out "what's this piece of shit?"

 

Seriously, best job in the world and paid millions to do it is an outrage to start with, a little humility wouldn't go amiss.

 

:rotfl:  :rotfl:  :lol:  Don't know why, but this visual literally has me in tears! :up:



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 12:15

Apologies if this has been mentioned already, but after Lewis went back in off the podium he came back out again a few moments later with a gold trophy. It was either his 2008 one, or it was the real trophy and the Santander one was just for show.



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#1180 pinkypants

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 13:40

Post race party interview with Lewis

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 03:08

Apologies if this has been mentioned already, but after Lewis went back in off the podium he came back out again a few moments later with a gold trophy. It was either his 2008 one, or it was the real trophy and the Santander one was just for show.

 

Its the one that British GP winners are presented (but not allowed to retain). Essentially the same one he was presented in 2008 (and the same one presented to subsequent winners as well in 2009, 2010..etc).