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[jonpollak]

I'm hungary...how about Goulash ?
Jp

[garagetinkerer]

I see the BBC buffoon 'Benson' is trying to stir it again..  'Germany's Sport Bild reporting that Mercedes want Vettel alongside Rosberg in 2016'

 

Yeah right

Sauce? i mean link please

 

edit: http://sportbild.bil...2760.sport.html

 

Makes for a very poor translation and even worse a read. Could someone versed in German help?

Edited by garagetinkerer, 23 July 2014 - 23:56.

[sennafan24]

Sauce? i mean link please

Benson's twitter is your friend

[garagetinkerer]

Benson's twitter is your friend

i made a twitter account like half a decade ago... but have never used it since

[Kristian]

Only 3 days to the race, and....

 

http://uk.weather.co...y HUXX0002:1:HU - 100% chance of rain

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/3054643 - Rain and storms all day.  

 

Looks like we might finally get our wish!

[Radion]

Sauce? i mean link please

 

edit: http://sportbild.bil...2760.sport.html

 

Makes for a very poor translation and even worse a read. Could someone versed in German help?

Sport Bild claims to know that mecedes wants a germand dream team.

J.V. thinks Lewis won't be staying at merc after 2015. Everyone in the german teams wants the german to become wdc. Lewis was brought in to make rosberg (look) better.

Wolff is holding his cards close to his chest.

McLaren-Honda approached SV already with a very generous offer.

J.V. thinks SV shouldn't go to mercedes because merc is bigger than the drivers and rosberg has the team behind him already.

[Richard T]

Only 3 days to the race, and....

http://uk.weather.co...y HUXX0002:1:HU - 100% chance of rain
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/3054643 - Rain and storms all day.

Looks like we might finally get our wish!

Great! I have missed a proper rain race

[DaddyCool]

All Hungarian sites predict rain & storms as well. Let's hope Charlie won't be trigger happy with Safety Cars...

[HoldenRT]

Love this track, similar to Imola it's hard to overtake but it's got classic corners and is great to drive.  Love the onboards.  This is probably the hardest track on the calender in terms of having rapid corners with little break between them, no time to rest or relax.. constant concentration.  Monaco is like that too but this one has higher speed and faster corners.

 

Rain would be interesting.

[Kristian]

Love this track, similar to Imola it's hard to overtake but it's got classic corners and is great to drive.  Love the onboards.  This is probably the hardest track on the calender in terms of having rapid corners with little break between them, no time to rest or relax.. constant concentration.  Monaco is like that too but this one has higher speed and faster corners.

 

Rain would be interesting.

 

Indeed. Plus trees and gradient are a bonus, along with usually packed grandstands. 

 

Maybe the Finns will be back in force this year to support Bottas. 

[Nemo1965]

Indeed. Plus trees and gradient are a bonus, along with usually packed grandstands. 

 

Maybe the Finns will be back in force this year to support Bottas. 

 

As a totally interesting side-note: perhaps all you know that Hungarian and Finnish are the only two languages in Europe of the Finno-Ugarian group (I believe), and are not servo-kroatic, anglo-saxon or latin-derived language.

 

So Finns and Hungarians can understand each other, with some effort. It is really interesting because the two countries are relatively far apart.

 

Anyways, the Finns have an extra reason to come. Although if they say 'Haluaisin olutta!', they won't be understood (it should be 'Edj pohar shurt kayrek').

[Lone]

As a totally interesting side-note: perhaps all you know that Hungarian and Finnish are the only two languages in Europe of the Finno-Ugarian group (I believe), and are not servo-kroatic, anglo-saxon or latin-derived language.
 
So Finns and Hungarians can understand each other, with some effort. It is really interesting because the two countries are relatively far apart.
 
Anyways, the Finns have an extra reason to come. Although if they say 'Haluaisin olutta!', they won't be understood (it should be 'Edj pohar shurt kayrek').

Finns and Hungarians do not understand each other in fact, eventhough both are ugric languages.

And, yes please I would like one, in any language .

[Nemo1965]

Finns and Hungarians do not understand each other in fact, eventhough both are ugric languages.

And, yes please I would like one, in any language .

[Lotus53B]

All Hungarian sites predict rain & storms as well. Let's hope Charlie won't be trigger happy with Safety Cars...

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That depends who is leading surely?

 

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[HuddersfieldTerrier1986]

As far as the weather goes, sods law will dictate that it'll be like Germany where we see the rain on the radar, we're certain it's going to hit before/during the race, then it comes half an hour after the race has finished.

 

It would be nice to see the cars actually racing on full wets for a change, but obviously more likely would be an SC start (with it being out far too long), a red flag followed by an SC restart (with it being out far too long) or just simply an SC (with it being out far too long).

 

Would be nice to see them racing on full wets though rather than trundling behind the SC until it's basically ready for inters. Can anyone remember the last time we actually went racing with all (or a decent amount) of cars on full wets for at least 5-10 laps with them not being behind the SC?

 

Anyway, if it's like Canada 2011 and they red flag it, fair enough (being honest that track was well and truly flooding in places), but if it's little more than some heavy rain, just let them go racing and let them decide what tyres to use and what speeds to go at. Yeah ok visibility due to spray is an issue, but then that was the case 50 years ago and they still went racing in full wet conditions, so really for me that's not an excuse for an SC (or SC staying out too long) or a red flag. For me unless the track is basically flooding, get on with it and race. Show us your skills.

Edited by HuddersfieldTerrier1986, 24 July 2014 - 09:03.

[Nemo1965]

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That depends who is leading surely?

 

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Oh, just imagine Lewis leading comfortably in the rain with Nico trailing ... and then a pace-car appears...

 

[as65p]

As a totally interesting side-note: perhaps all you know that Hungarian and Finnish are the only two languages in Europe of the Finno-Ugarian group (I believe), and are not servo-kroatic, anglo-saxon or latin-derived language.

 

So Finns and Hungarians can understand each other, with some effort. It is really interesting because the two countries are relatively far apart.

 

Anyways, the Finns have an extra reason to come. Although if they say 'Haluaisin olutta!', they won't be understood (it should be 'Edj pohar shurt kayrek').

 

Yeah, I always found that fascinating too, especially considering that the language doesn't look or sound similar to me at all (not in the way spanish and and italian do, for example). But that may have something to with me not understanding anything in either finnish or hungarian...

[Nemo1965]

Anyway, if it's like Canada 2011 and they red flag it, fair enough (being honest that track was well and truly flooding in places), but if it's little more than some heavy rain, just let them go racing and let them decide what tyres to use and what speeds to go at. Yeah ok visibility due to spray is an issue, but then that was the case 50 years ago and they still went racing in full wet conditions, so really for me that's not an excuse for an SC (or SC staying out too long) or a red flag. For me unless the track is basically flooding, get on with it and race. Show us your skills.

 

I feel where you are coming from, but from what I've understood if there is enough (too much rain), with the current cars there is no skill involved at all. In ye old days the ground clearance of cars was much higher which meant that the water did not create a film between the bottom of the car and the ground. Now that does happen, especially with the low front ends and rear diffusors.

 

So with enough (too much rain) it would be a total casino who would go off and who would stay on the track. You could go off at 50 miles per hour or stay on the track at 200, just depending on where-ever the water flows.

 

If the FIA ever has the possibility by controlling ride-height automatically (which I believe is the reason behind for for the push to allow active suspensions again), that problem is solved. Charlie Whiting (or whomever would push the button) and all the cars would go up 10 cm or so...

[f1RacingForever]

Oh, just imagine Lewis leading comfortably in the rain with Nico trailing ... and then a pace-car appears...

Why would race control care whether a German or a British driver won in Hungary?

[darkkis]

As a totally interesting side-note: perhaps all you know that Hungarian and Finnish are the only two languages in Europe of the Finno-Ugarian group (I believe), and are not servo-kroatic, anglo-saxon or latin-derived language.

 

So Finns and Hungarians can understand each other, with some effort. It is really interesting because the two countries are relatively far apart.

 

Anyways, the Finns have an extra reason to come. Although if they say 'Haluaisin olutta!', they won't be understood (it should be 'Edj pohar shurt kayrek').

Actually, we can't understand each other, not at all. There are some similar words, but nothing else.

 

Anyway, our distant kinship is interesting. Hungaroring has always been like a "home grand prix" to finnish drivers, because there's so many finns watching @ grand stands.

[DaddyCool]

Actually, we can't understand each other, not at all. There are some similar words, but nothing else.

 

Anyway, our distant kinship is interesting. Hungaroring has always been like a "home grand prix" to finnish drivers, because there's so many finns watching @ grand stands.

 

That, plus Kimi is still very popular with the Hungarian crowd. I remember the loud cheering he got last year 

[HoldenRT]

Anyone remember what FRIC is?  Just rewatching the intro to last race and they talking about FRIC and the difference it makes.. and almost forgot what it was.  It's only a week later?

 

So much talk about it.  It basically didn't make much difference and no one talking about it anymore.

[Kristian]

 

 

So much talk about it.  It basically didn't make much difference and no one talking about it anymore.

 

It pretty much shows they were right to ban it, as its a big spend on something fairly tame.

 

but as someone said, they will just use the money on finding the next FRIC/mass damper/F-duct/etc. 

[as65p]

Certainly we, and to an extent even the teams won't know how much of a difference it makes until they ran subsequent race simulations w/ and w/o FRIC with the otherwise same car and same driver within half a day and nearly unchanged track conditions. Which obviously won't happen.

[Exb]

Thursday photos: http://www.sutton-im...ly 2014.=#

 

Minor track changes including a slightly shorter DRS zone on pit straight than last year, still only 1 detection zone for both DRS zones.

http://www.gpupdate....at-hungaroring/

[Anderis]

As a totally interesting side-note: perhaps all you know that Hungarian and Finnish are the only two languages in Europe of the Finno-Ugarian group (I believe), and are not servo-kroatic, anglo-saxon or latin-derived language.

I think Estonian is a third language from that group. And there are some others, like Karelian, which are spoken by minor groups as well.

 

I also believe Slavic, Germanic and Romance (sometimes called Latin or Romanic) are the groups of languages that are more representative to be mentioned when you want to mention all important groups of languages in Europe. But I'm not an expert so I might be wrong.

[EndlessMotion]

Great! I have missed a proper rain race

 

I'd love to see a proper wet race again myself but I have visions of Charlie starting it under a safety car until the very last puddle evaporates and the entire grid is now on intermediate tyres at worst.

 

For some reason I particularly enjoy quali at the Hungaroring. The starts are usually pretty fun too with the distance down to turn 1 before the squeeze into turn 2.

[scheivlak]

Anyone remember what FRIC is?  Just rewatching the intro to last race and they talking about FRIC and the difference it makes.. and almost forgot what it was.  It's only a week later?

 

So much talk about it.  It basically didn't make much difference and no one talking about it anymore.

Only really substantial differences seem to me that Lotus now really have taken a dive and that Sauber seems just a bit less hopeless now - which might tell us something about the effectiveness of their solution before.

[OvDrone]

God, I love this track. And the atmosphere there, year-in year-out, is nothing short of awesome.

 

Being from Transylvania, therefore not that far away from Budapest [if it rains there, it will rain here three/four hours later (most of the time)], the climate ain't that far removed from here. So, going by the recent week and a half, be ready for a chaotic Sunday race. *hopefully*

[Ev0d3vil]

Rain sounds fun ! 

[OO7]

Thursday photos: http://www.sutton-im...ly 2014.=#

 

Minor track changes including a slightly shorter DRS zone on pit straight than last year, still only 1 detection zone for both DRS zones.

http://www.gpupdate....at-hungaroring/

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[f1RacingForever]

?

Probably to compensate for DRS being more effective this year.  Good decision.

[OO7]

Probably to compensate for DRS being more effective this year.  Good decision.

I couldn't see the shortening of the DRS zone mentioned anywhere in the article hence my '?'.  If they have shortened the zone on the pit straight, then it is a poor decision in my opinion.  The Hungaroring is a notoriously difficult circuit to pass on even with the aid of DRS and the pit straight is not particularly long in the first place.

Edited by Obi Offiah, 25 July 2014 - 09:20.

[EarnardBeccelstone]

Hungaroring is always a fun track to drive in sims and such - great rythmn to it - but I wish there were more overtaking opportunities for an F1 car.

 

Proposal for some changes:

 

Increase the angle of turn four by about 10-15 degrees and add a very gently curving 500-600 m run out to a Hockenheim turn six style hairpin. From google maps, it appears to be just empty land out there, so track extension should be no problem. The cars will already be doing 170 kph through turn four (maybe a little more), so there should be a decent braking zone entering the hairpin.

 

After the new turn five hairpin, run the cars back along the now substantially lengthened back straight leading to turn a revised turn six/seven chicane. Increase the angle for both turns to about 95-100 degrees (currently it looks like its about 75 degrees for six, and about 60 degrees for turn 7), forcing lower cornering speeds for the chicane complex and making it a traction complex rather than an aero complex (like the three turn complex at Istanbul, before you get back onto the front straight).

[Exb]

I couldn't see the shortening of the DRS zone mentioned anywhere in the article hence my '?'.  If they have shorten the zone on the pit straight, then it is a poor decision in my opinion.  The Hungaroring is a notoriously difficult circuit to pass on even with the aid of DRS and the pit straight is not particularly long in the first place.

Sorry - from the article DRS zone is 130m after turn 14.

Last year it was 70m after turn 14 - (link)  http://www.f1fanatic...-two-drs-zones/

[jjcale]

I expect some Kimi fans are praying for a Hamilton win 

 

KR is P2 in FP1 ATM .... its on!!

 

[Kvothe]

KR is P2 in FP1 ATM .... its on!!

 

Took a while but I'm glad someone got it, was beginning to lose hope

[OO7]

Sorry - from the article DRS zone is 130m after turn 14.

Last year it was 70m after turn 14 - (link)  http://www.f1fanatic...-two-drs-zones/

Thanks Exb.

[travbrad]

Every time Hamilton has won this race - 4 times - Kimi has finished 2nd.

 

And suddenly Kimi is 3rd in practice.  

[turssi]

If it's a wet Sunday I want to see enough retirements for Marussia, Sauber and Caterham fighting for points and changing the order at the tail end of the WCC

[Rurouni]

There goes 2nd for Kimi....

[brett_sequeira]

It seems Hamilton was soHungry in Hungary that the post qualifying BBQ was started on the mercedes engine block at q1 oh dearie me.