The only meaningful comparison is to see clean-air laptimes which Kimi had only a few (and he was doing fine btw). Getting Q17 is not an easy ride to the front in Hungary when you are blocked all the time. Even hamilton and rosberg with the rocketships can have a problem passing in problematic tracks if there is not a significant performance differential.
Kimi showed lack of pace during the weekend (FPs + 1 Q attempt) with the first laps of the medium compound. Thing is, due to the rain, the medium wasn't really raced since most teams opted for soft-soft... His soft pace was excellent all weekend + the race.
Your extrapolation / generalization of Kimi's driving performance into other races, is ...well... what can I say. I'll leave it there...
Maybe part of the problem is that you are talking about a completely different thing than most of us, and occluding that by extending your opinion, which is formed by one thing to a very different one.
Namely:
You seem to start your argument in the realm of pure raw pace in ideal conditions. Therefore you are trying to remove all data that gets in the way of assessing this raw pace. OK, one can do that if this is one's interest. I don't think you are doing it very well, but the idea is not fundamentally untenable.
But, F1 is not a time trial. Being an excellent F1 driver requires raw pace and driving skills, but also the ability to read a race, team worka and yes political acumen, mundane stuff such as simply keeping away from unnecessary risk and trouble on track, and arguably even stuff like ability to find money, work with sponsors, etc. (race driving textbooks include these topics). And I think that this is what many other posters here include in their pictures of the situation - possibly mostly the Alonso supporters.
So far, these are separate domains and no problem, one can discuss either. But then you go and try to argue - or seem to, to me - away from the raw pace your whole data gathering process and analysis is based on, and extend it to Kimi's overall quality as a racing driver vs. Alonso.
In your view, stuff like Kimi's pace in round 1 of Hungary Q1 is irrelevant, because that was surely not his ultimate pace (and I agree that it wasn't). But like I said in the previous post, he was slow at a point were it could get him into trouble, and then a random event (or maybe even not so random) like a pitwall error can throw you off. No pitwall error could harm Alonso when round 1 of Q1 was done.
Edited by KnucklesAgain, 21 August 2014 - 23:38.