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#301 pedrorito

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:03

What is the excuse for Ham today?



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#302 Longtimefan

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:03

Congrats to Nico for the pole but 2 secs between the Mercs and the others is simply taking the ****.

#303 Cyanide

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:03

Rosberg beat him fair and square. Championship is in his sight. 



#304 Szoelloe

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:03

Well, so much for inflicting pain.



#305 Kobasmashi

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:04

Lewis overdrove that. So much for Kimi beating Fernando here...

#306 Tsarwash

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:04

Did Lewis get slowed down by that Ferrari ? They were 2 secs a lap quicker.



#307 pedrorito

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:05

Did Lewis get slowed down by that Ferrari ? They were 2 secs a lap quicker.

No, it was not.



#308 DarthWillie

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:06

Horrible, Hamilton made big mistakes every q3 lap and still almost 2 sec quicker than p3

He should not have p2 with that performance

#309 Fastcake

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:06

First time Rosberg's genuinely out-qualified Hamilton for quite some time.

#310 payinkind

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:07

Rosberg beat him fair and square. Championship is in his sight. 

 

Agree with the first part. However, I wasn't aware points were given for pole...

 

EDIT: Paddy reports braking issue for Lewis.


Edited by payinkind, 23 August 2014 - 13:08.


#311 Melchiot

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:07


Did Lewis get slowed down by that Ferrari ? They were 2 secs a lap quicker.

 

 

...Here we go again.



#312 Disgrace

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:08

First time Rosberg's genuinely out-qualified Hamilton for quite some time.

 

Only since Silverstone.



#313 1Devil1

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:09

First time Rosberg's genuinely out-qualified Hamilton for quite some time.

eh Austria, Canada, Silverstone... quite some time  :rolleyes:



#314 pedrorito

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:10

Agree with the first part. However, I wasn't aware points were given for pole...

 

EDIT: Paddy reports braking issue for Lewis.

 

Yes yes yes...



#315 payinkind

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:10

eh Austria, Canada, Silverstone... quite some time  :rolleyes:

 

Silverstone is not genuine. Austria I agree.


Edited by payinkind, 23 August 2014 - 13:10.


#316 Gemini

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:10

Not that I think it's super important but I just seen Lewis getting weight check with heavy wrist watch. I guess  it's easily 100g. :wave:



#317 HP

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:11

Agree with the first part. However, I wasn't aware points were given for pole...

 

EDIT: Paddy reports braking issue for Lewis.

Not so sure about the brakes, as it was Hammy suggesting it to the pits, and they responding by instructing him how to properly heat his brakes.



#318 Ducks

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:11

Great job from Nico the fastest German.



#319 payinkind

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:16

Not so sure about the brakes, as it was Hammy suggesting it to the pits, and they responding by instructing him how to properly heat his brakes.

 

Front-left brake was glazed. Not much he could have done really.



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#320 Longtimefan

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:17

I wish Lewis would get a different cap, that just looks silly with the flat brim.

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:18

Really sad watching drivers abuse the run off down at Rivage. Something needs to be done about that.



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:18

Great job from Rosberg there! Didn't expect him to be quicker than Hamilton.....

....who seemed to overdrive right from the off, on the last go. Didn't look much bothered though, so he looks to be in good spirits. EDIT - guess it's because he feels he couldn't do more with a glazed disc.

 

Vettel third, a little surprising, but the nearest Mercedes-challenger is 2,1 seconds behind! It's unbelieveable. Will Ricciardo's time stand, 'cause he got into picture while off the track and that was on his fastest lap. 

 

Alonso fourth which is better than expected, but I guess the rain helped (him.) Some positives to take away from today for Ferrari, and into tomorrow, 'cause they were quite quick in the dry this morning.

Räikkönen not able to improve on a so-so but still OK lap in Q3.

 

Nothing to jump about for, for Williams. Sixth and ninth, which means, if it's dry tomorrow, they'll come forward.

 

Magnussen has built into things nicely, 'cause he was far away from Button's pace in the free practice sessions. Dissapointed in Button.  :|

 

Surprised to see Kvyat quicker than Vergne when the sessions been run on inters. Good job.

 

Perez beating Hülkenberg..................

 

Ericsson - ok, he got put on the track surrounded by other cars, but still, beaten by Lotterer who makes his F1 GP debut this weekend. And it's wet. Embarrassing.


Edited by race addicted, 23 August 2014 - 13:21.


#323 SCEPurple

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:22

People are talking about Ros and Ham like they were miles apart, +0.2s over a 2 min lap in the damp is pretty reasonable... Ros just did a slightly better job...no?

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:22

Really sad watching drivers abuse the run off down at Rivage. Something needs to be done about that.

 

Should have had a gravel trap. Shame the FIA replaced it in 2011 with asphalt.



#325 Kobasmashi

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:24

I wish Lewis would get a different cap, that just looks silly with the flat brim.


I can't say I agree, Lewis' cap looks like something you might actually wear day-to-day, it's smart imo.

Glazed front brake says Lewis. Well, it wouldn't be a Saturday if he didn't have some sort of problem...

#326 Tsarwash

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:24

 

 

...Here we go again.

What ? I was asking a question. I could only watch with not sound and a horrible internet connection. I was wondering if Lewis's lap was compromised by a much slower Ferrari, that's all. Why are people on this forum so quick to jump to conclusions based on almost nothing ? With half a lap to go Lewis looked as though he was around two or three seconds behind to me. 



#327 Exb

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:25

Wow - on that side by side between Lewis and Nico (shown on sky), they were so close at the final corner, it was the drive to the line where Nico got the advantage. Good stuff from both Merc drivers, no huge errors on their best laps so I think some people are being a little harsh.

 

Good lap too from Vettel, considering the low downforce setting and little amount of running this weekend - I expect the rain helped as no-one had any experience in those conditions. Another good performance from Alonso and Ricciardo would probably have been 3rd without that mistake at the end, did well to keep it pointing in the right direction and get the lap in, I can't imagine it won't stand as nothing from FIA about track limits this week and he didn't gain an advantage.

 

Also a special mention to Magnussen, Kvyat, Bianchi and Lotterer :up: :up: :up:


Edited by Exb, 23 August 2014 - 13:27.


#328 ExFlagMan

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:27

 

                   

Really sad watching drivers abuse the run off down at Rivage. Something needs to be done about that.

 

Big sausage kerb perhaps!



#329 Mila

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:38

NR's first Q3 lap was a monster. I'm not 100% sure, but that looked like four-wheel drift coming out of Pouhon.



#330 bourbon

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:49

Really sweet pole for Nico - consistent in the crunch!  Hamilton right behind him though - should be a great race tomorrow.

 

Awesome P3 by Seb with little free practice running - How About That? :up:

 

Kimi is starting 9 places forward from last race where he finished 6th, so it's all good.  :D

 

Shame Danil didn't make it in Q3 - very close!  But looking forward to forward strides tomorrow.



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 13:56

Hamilton made too many mistakes and nico did the right thing kept it on track and put in the times. However 2nd place at spa is not something to cry about. Lewis got slipstreamed last year. I'm sure he can do this to nico. I cannot see nico winning tomorrow if it's dry.

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 14:08

When I think of Spa Francorchamps and rain, I think of a perfect setting to watch drivers performing on their absolute limit, with circuit and conditions making their job tough.
Unfortunately, today we had another example of what a mockery modern F1 is.
 
How many drivers did go off during qualy and how many times did it happen? It is beyond any count.
And nothing happened, they weren't punished for their mistakes. They just went off on tarmac runoff and simply continued.
 
The worst two examples were in Q2, if I'm not mistaken, when both Mercedes drivers went wide (Lewis in chicane, Nico in Rivage), and despite that both off them topped the time sheet with those messy laps.
 
Not that long ago, if you went over the limit in Spa you were punished for your mistake.
 
:down:


#333 Hellenic tifosi

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 15:13

Sad, but true.....



#334 Wingcommander

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 16:01

Not that long ago, if you went over the limit in Spa you were punished for your mistake.

:down:


It's like playing a video game these days. Btw that's what Rosberg Sr. said about the new Nurburgring back in the 80s.

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 16:09

Practice 3: :: Sector times :: Lap Chart
Qualification: :: Sector times :: Lap Chart

#336 BullHead

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 16:28

Well, Vettel's back. Nice to see. Seriously, Lewis less than 2 tenths over that track in those conditions, and you think it means something?



#337 Nigol

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 16:31

Is there a speedtrap-document on FIA's website? I just can't find it.

Edit: For qualifying of course.


Edited by Nigol, 23 August 2014 - 16:32.


#338 Nonesuch

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 16:34

Look at those Mercedes cars fly ... it's beyond embarrassing at this point for the other teams. This is worse than anything Red Bull, and maybe even Ferrari ever did. :lol:

 

That said, it is still fun to watch the F1 cars at Spa. Leaving aside their sound for the moment, these 2014 F1 cars are still fast, and seeing them push through Blanchimont in the wet continues to excite. It is however disappointing that almost all gravel traps have been removed: did Ricciardo set his fastest time while going all over the lines in that last run in Q3? He seemed to struggle with keeping the car within the lines coming up to the Bus Stop.

 

Unfortunately there can be no doubt about who will finish first and second tomorrow, unless fate intervenes, so hopefully we'll see another interesting race between Alonso and the Red Bulls, and - perhaps - the Williams cars. :up:


Edited by Nonesuch, 23 August 2014 - 16:34.


#339 MP422

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 16:56

Bianchi deserves a better machine.  :cat:



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 20:57

Love how people kept saying Hamilton bottled it but was only .2 behind with a clear brake issue. No issues in q2 and you saw his pace. Starting 2nd gives him a better chance at the draft pass anyway. Alonso and Kimi not as far apart as usual considering the conditions. And Vettel with his 5th top 3 qualifying spot this year.

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 21:28

Well, Vettel's back. Nice to see. Seriously, Lewis less than 2 tenths over that track in those conditions, and you think it means something?

 

Of course it means something, it means Nico out-qualified him and starts ahead. Otherwise why bother with qualy if it isn't going to 'mean anything'?



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 21:39

might be just me but...

 

guido van de garde looks like he intentionally tries to get on tv when the sky people are around. it feels like ive seen him on ted's notebook EVERY time ive watched it.



#343 loki

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 00:07

What is the excuse for Ham today?

Brake issues apparently.  As in he didn't quite know when to use them at the proper time......

 

 

 

 

 

 

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