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#1 Jimisgod

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 03:38

So Max was drafted right from Euro F3, here is the place to talk and fanboy about similarly successful young drivers who would make good F1 material (Max has his own topics though, so keep the discussion down about him right now).

For the interests of the topic, no drivers who have spent more than 6 years in junior categories.


First choice for me: Anton De Pasquale.

Aussie leading the FR1.6 series with two rounds to go. He won the Australian FFord title last year.

http://www.speedcafe...e-closes-title/

https://www.driverdb...on-de-pasquale/

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#2 balage06

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 07:51

Marvin Kirchhöfer:

 

German KF1 champion in 2011

In his first year of car racing he won the ADAC Formel Masters with 7 poles, 9 wins, 8 fastest laps and 16 podiums from 23 races,

Last year he became German F3 champion, he won 13 out of 26 races and missed the podium only once with a 4th place.

 

I tought this year he will be a title contender in GP3, but he's too hot-headed, at least he won his home race at Hockenheim.



#3 HistoryFan

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 18:56

Esteban Ocon

 

He benefits from the strong Prema Power team, but he is dominating F3 European series.



#4 HaydenFan

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 20:10

Esteban Ocon

 

He benefits from the strong Prema Power team, but he is dominating F3 European series.

 

But who cares. Wins are wins. Hamilton destroyed all in '05 in Euro F3 with the ASM team (now ART). 



#5 rsaca

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 20:53

Well, apart from Verstappen who I had followed in karts, I was very impressed with Esteban Ocon. 

 

I just heard Mercedes are going to snatch him up from Lotus. Should be very good for him and I'll keep following him in the next ladder series.



#6 Kyo

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Posted 02 September 2014 - 05:21

Driver/Titles	                 Born	1st Season
Robin Frijns	                 1991	2009
1st F-BMW Europe 2010	 	 
1st FR 2.0 Eurocup 2011	 	 
1st FR 3.5 2012	 	 
 	 	 
Stoffel Vandoorne	        1992	2010
1st F4 Eurocup 1.6 2010	 	 
1st FR 2.0 Eurocup 2012	 	 
 	 	 
Oliver Rowland	                1992	2011
1st FR 2.0 UK Winter Series 2011	 	 
 	 	 
Felipe Nasr	                1992	2009
1st F-BMW Europe 2009	 	 
1st F3 Britain 2010	 	 
 	 	 
Alex Lynn	                1993	2010
1st FR 2.0 UK Winter Series 2010	 	 
1st FR 2.0 UK 2011	 	 
Leading GP3	 	 
 	 	 
Marvin Kirchhöfer	        1994	2012
1st ADAC Formel Masters 2012	 	 
1st F3 Germany 2013	 	 
 	 	 
Mitch Evans	                1994	2008
1st F-Ford Manfeild Winter 2008	 	 
1st Toyota Racing Series NZ 2010	 	 
1st Toyota Racing Series NZ 2011	 	 
1st GP3 Series 2012	 	 
 	 	 
Carlos Sainz jr.	        1994	2010
1st FR 2.0 NEC 2011	 	 
 	 	 
Raffaele Marciello	        1994	2010
1st F3 Europe 2013	 	 
 	 	 
Nyck de Vries	                1995	2012
Leading FR 2.0 Eurocup	 	 
 	 	 
Antonio Fuoco	                1996	2013
1st FR 2.0 Alps 2013	 	 
 	 	 
Pierre Gasly	                1996	2011
1st FR 2.0 Eurocup 2013	 	 
 	 	 
Esteban Ocon	                1996	2012
Leading F3 Europe	 	 
 	 	 
Few others	 	 
Anton de Pasquale	        1995	2012
Dennis Olsen	                1996	2013
Pietro Fittipaldi	        1996	2011
Ben Barnicoat	                1996	2014
Alex Palou	                1997	2014
Charles Leclerc	                1997	2014



#7 balage06

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 09:50

What do you think about Lando Norris?

 

He's only 15 and his first F4 season is quite impressive, he leads the MSA Formula and he was a guest driver in a few German and Italian F4 rounds with regular podium finishes, including a victory at Spa.



#8 maximilian

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 11:47

What do you think about Lando Norris?

 

He's only 15 and his first F4 season is quite impressive, he leads the MSA Formula and he was a guest driver in a few German and Italian F4 rounds with regular podium finishes, including a victory at Spa.

 

With a name like LANDO NORRIS, I sure HOPE he'll become a big star... seems almost predestined! :lol:    He has a cool helmet, too:

Lando-KFJ.jpg

 

His cousin Chewbacca Van Damme isn't doing too badly, either :p


Edited by maximilian, 05 October 2015 - 11:49.


#9 HistoryFan

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 19:27

1. Stoffel Vandoorne
2. Charles Leclerc
3. Esteban Ocon
4. Oliver Rowland
5. Louis Délétraz
6. Alex Lynn
7. Antonio Giovinazzi
8. Jake Dennis
9. Sergey Sirotkin
10. Lando Norris



#10 rhukkas

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 19:59

What do you think about Lando Norris?

 

He's only 15 and his first F4 season is quite impressive, he leads the MSA Formula and he was a guest driver in a few German and Italian F4 rounds with regular podium finishes, including a victory at Spa.

 

The amount of money (it is beyond insane) that has been spent on him he should be 1 second quicker than every driver in the world. 



#11 Kev00

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 20:40

1. Stoffel Vandoorne
2. Charles Leclerc
3. Esteban Ocon
4. Oliver Rowland
5. Louis Délétraz
6. Alex Lynn
7. Antonio Giovinazzi
8. Jake Dennis
9. Sergey Sirotkin
10. Lando Norris

Maybe if we are lucky we might see one or two of these guys make it to f1

#12 Marklar

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 20:41

The amount of money (it is beyond insane) that has been spent on him he should be 1 second quicker than every driver in the world.

When I saw his motor home, Ive apologized for every ironic comment I made about Lewis Hamiltons "other kids had motorhomes" karting storys. Madness!

About the thread question this site has a couple names (the order is irelevant)

https://www.driverdb...e-racing-stars/

#13 Myrvold

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 20:52

(the order is irelevant)

 

Oh, but I already see the future of this thread now!

 

But that second Norwegian driver, meh, there must be better talents than him around!



#14 Gyan

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 21:05

This guy has a very good metric to measure young drivers. Its an interesting metric to wonder about.



#15 Marklar

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 21:31

Isnt it the same guy who calculated that Nico Rosberg is the 7th best driver in F1 history - a place ahead of Vettel and 5 (!) places ahead of his current team mate?

 

Regarding this one: I had the junior careers of the current drivers completely different in my mind regarding who impressed me more: Vettel was very impressive for example. Looking into the metric it is pointless: some drivers are starting their first season in a new series with top teams, some are starting their first season with low tier teams, so it makes no sense to sum that up and give bonus points if your first season was good. And some drivers are getting promote during a season to an higher class or to F1 or have not the budget to make a whole season, so they cant score points here....Furthermore I've already spotted some mistakes about the counting of the seasons :p However the part with the young drivers of each team regarding the excitement looks interesting


Edited by Marklar, 05 October 2015 - 21:44.


#16 Myrvold

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 22:54

Isnt it the same guy who calculated that Nico Rosberg is the 7th best driver in F1 history - a place ahead of Vettel and 5 (!) places ahead of his current team mate?

At least he is true to his model, with this rate, Rosberg won't be in front of Hamilton with that calculation anyway ^^



#17 Peat

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 10:19

When announcing these 'future F1 greats', bear in mind that Luca Badoer was once upon a time considered a hot prospect thanks to some mighty seasons in karts, F3 & F3000.

 



#18 Jimisgod

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 10:49

Isnt it the same guy who calculated that Nico Rosberg is the 7th best driver in F1 history - a place ahead of Vettel and 5 (!) places ahead of his current team mate?

 

 

His young driver model isn't much better.

 

Top 10 non-F1 young drivers is...

 

1. Frijns

2. Vandoorne

3. Yamashita (mediocre in Japanese GT and is now leading Japanese F3 after coming 2nd last year)

4. Evans

5. Hirakawa (1st Japanese F3 and Japanese Carrera Cup 2012, mediocre in Super Formula and Japanese GT since then)

6. Vanthoor (1st FIA GT 2013, 1st Blancpain Endurance series 2014)

7. Rigon (nothing really to speak of except 1st Superleague 2010)

8. Kirchhofer (1st German F3 2013, 3rd GP3 2014)

9. Calado (2nd GP3 2011, 3rd GP2 2013)

10. Wittman (2nd German F3 2010 & 2011, 1st DTM 2014)

 

Note the glaring omission of Ocon, Sirotkin, Matsushita (who actually beat Yamashita to two titles)...



#19 anneomoly

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 12:23

What do you think about Lando Norris?

 

He's only 15 and his first F4 season is quite impressive, he leads the MSA Formula and he was a guest driver in a few German and Italian F4 rounds with regular podium finishes, including a victory at Spa.

 

He was impressive last year in Ginetta Juniors as well, though I have to admit I don't know how much time the relative financing of those kids gives or takes away to a lap time.



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#20 Myrvold

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 21:17

When announcing these 'future F1 greats', bear in mind that Luca Badoer was once upon a time considered a hot prospect thanks to some mighty seasons in karts, F3 & F3000.

 

And the only time he looked like a slow and bad racer was in 2009, and seeing the time it took for Raikkonen and Massa to get to grips with it, it wasn't that strange that Badoer would struggle.



#21 JeordieX

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 21:44

Vandoorne and Ocon are the two who really stand out for me, yet I fear they will both be the next Frijns.

#22 rhukkas

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 22:07

He was impressive last year in Ginetta Juniors as well, though I have to admit I don't know how much time the relative financing of those kids gives or takes away to a lap time.


Impossible to measure.... but you can be rest assured Lando is welllll financed