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#1 Ev0d3vil

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 02:26

Race topic here! Tipping LH to win!

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#2 CoolBreeze

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 02:39

I hope both Mercs take themselves out. 'Nando for the win! :clap:



#3 fisssssi

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 03:37

Hamilton has a brake problem, Rosberg a gearbox problem and both retire.

Massa takes out Bottas at the first corner because he can't stand the Finn driving away from him for another race.

Fred jumps both McLarens at the start and Magnussen spends the rest of the race over-aggressively defending from the Red Bulls, slowing them all down enough for Raikkonen to jump all three with an alternate strategy.

Ferrari comes home to deliver an unexpected 1-2 and the masses of tifosi promptly implode with excitement.

#4 CoolBreeze

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 03:39

Even Hans Christian Andersen would not write a better story :D :cool:



#5 HoldenRT

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 03:46

The funny thing is.. to say that Ricciardo (or a Redbull) would win during the winter would require a similar kind of story.  But it's happened 3 times so far.. :eek:



#6 f1RacingForever

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 03:52

Hamilton's going to win. I have a feeling. DRS is less effective here and that should keep Nico behind. Hoping for a good race from Fernando but he won't be able to do anything tomorrow.  Think it will be a boring race. One stopper with not much overtaking.



#7 Afterburner

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 03:53

Hamilton has a brake problem, Rosberg a gearbox problem and both retire.

Massa takes out Bottas at the first corner because he can't stand the Finn driving away from him for another race.

Fred jumps both McLarens at the start and Magnussen spends the rest of the race over-aggressively defending from the Red Bulls, slowing them all down enough for Raikkonen to jump all three with an alternate strategy.

Ferrari comes home to deliver an unexpected 1-2 and the masses of tifosi promptly implode with excitement.

Except it needs to be KR's turn to win, as he hasn't won in front of the tifosi yet. I'd imagine he'd probably be smiling if that happened after the season he's had.  ;)

#8 f1RacingForever

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 03:55

Hamilton has a brake problem, Rosberg a gearbox problem and both retire.

Massa takes out Bottas at the first corner because he can't stand the Finn driving away from him for another race.

Fred jumps both McLarens at the start and Magnussen spends the rest of the race over-aggressively defending from the Red Bulls, slowing them all down enough for Raikkonen to jump all three with an alternate strategy.

Ferrari comes home to deliver an unexpected 1-2 and the masses of tifosi promptly implode with excitement.

It could happen! :love:  Yes i believe!!!



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Posted 07 September 2014 - 04:40

any chance of rain..?


Edited by aray, 07 September 2014 - 04:41.


#10 Ricciardo2014

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 05:52

I may be stupid/crazy/hopeful/living in fantasy land/insane, or any combination of the before mentioned, but I just put $10 on Bottas for the win @ 13 to 1 lol !

#11 Ev0d3vil

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 05:55

any chance of rain..?

 

I dont think so  :cry:



#12 YDdraigGoch

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 06:27

any chance of rain..?

 

20% chance of a shower/thunderstorm by 3pm. If it does manage to rain it'll also take quite a while for the rain to stop



#13 HoldenRT

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 06:30

Massa desperately needs a good result.

 

Hopefully the race has some sort of spice.  Without SC's the race is over very quick, shortest race all year.  And a 1 stop makes it worse.  Bottas will be interesting to watch, as will the Mercs.  Redbull should have better race pace.  McLaren are a bit of an unknown but I expect them to drift back.

 

Flat spots could be interesting, braking is tricky with these cars and you don't want to be carrying a big flatspot for half the race.  Driveshafts can be prone to failure here as well due to the kerbs and accelerating hard while riding them.

 

It's also pretty much the worst turn 1 on the calender and especially in the midfield it could be messy.  Hold your breath off of the start, anything could happen.  And if anything bad happens, remember.. it's not on purpose. :lol:

 

It's been 2 months since a Redbull didn't win but looks like that streak will be breaking.  :p



#14 xmoonrakerx

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 07:21

Hamilton has a brake problem, Rosberg a gearbox problem and both retire.

Massa takes out Bottas at the first corner because he can't stand the Finn driving away from him for another race.

Fred jumps both McLarens at the start and Magnussen spends the rest of the race over-aggressively defending from the Red Bulls, slowing them all down enough for Raikkonen to jump all three with an alternate strategy.

Ferrari comes home to deliver an unexpected 1-2 and the masses of tifosi promptly implode with excitement.

 

I just saw empty grand stands....


Edited by xmoonrakerx, 07 September 2014 - 07:22.


#15 kosmos

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 07:23

I hope a Williams wins and there is no problems in the first lap for anyone, that's all :p



#16 Miggeex

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 07:56

Bottas jumps Rosberg in start if both gets normal starts. Then lap 2 Hamilton locks up to T1 and Bottas gets through.

 

Heard it here first   ;)



#17 Nonesuch

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 08:37

The Williams cars will be interesting, though perhaps they already missed their best chance of a win in Austria. Who knows.

 

Under normal circumstances the Mercedes team should run away with the win without too much trouble, so we'll see if they can keep their heads cool.

 

More likely to produce some good racing is the little McLaren/Red Bull/Alonso group. That could probably end up in a dozen different orders; should be fun! :up:



#18 Lotus53B

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 08:42

Only one stop, so strategy choice is very limited, this track will favour folk who can overtake on the tarmac, and those who can defend well (and legally - those are long straights Kevin....).

 

I think this track favours Lewis, Valterri and Fred, but the Merc engine is probably the key to success.

 

Mercs 1 and 2, Williams 3



#19 DrivenF1

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 08:57

This article is still relevant for race pace analysis from FP2.

 

Bottas looked very impressive, even compared to Rosberg. Rosberg wasn't happy on Friday so it depends how much set-up changes helped him since then. If he's not improved drastically this could be a very interesting race!



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Posted 07 September 2014 - 09:47

I may be stupid/crazy/hopeful/living in fantasy land/insane, or any combination of the before mentioned, but I just put $10 on Bottas for the win @ 13 to 1 lol !

Not an awful bet. If the Mercedes run into problems, its not going to be Ricciardo waiting in the wings this time, but one of the Williams.

#21 Kristian

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 09:50

I think we are due a routine race; Hamilton will get into the first corner first, Nico will not be able to pass, and it will be a simple Mercedes 1-2. 

 

The lack of any decent tyre strategy variation won't help either. 



#22 Lazy

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 09:54

Ofc, the most interesting outcome would be Lewis hitting Nico and taking him out of the race.

#23 NoSanityClause

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 09:56

Chances of booing during the podium ceremony?



#24 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:05

Chances of booing during the podium ceremony?

Not if Lewis wins.



#25 Cyanide

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:16

Rosberg: "If you are behind after the start it's difficult to win the race. That's because in a one-stop race there's little you can do in terms of strategy. You have to pass on track. That's why I'll try winning at the start immediately."

 

I think I'll just close my eyes at Turn 1. This will not be pretty. 



#26 Longtimefan

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:21

I think we are due a routine race; Hamilton will get into the first corner first, Nico will not be able to pass, and it will be a simple Mercedes 1-2. 
 
The lack of any decent tyre strategy variation won't help either.


This is my thinking too, it's going to be a boring race.. We needed rain to spice it up :(

#27 fZero

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:22

 

I think I'll just close my eyes at Turn 1. This will not be pretty. 

 

They couldn't have picked a worse track to come to after Spa's incident. Merc 1 and 2 on the grid into turn one at Monza with cold brakes could be very ugly.



#28 givemeabettercar

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:25

Hamilton and Rosberg collide again, Gutierrez takes 5 out at the first corner.

Bottas win from Ricciardo and Alonso third.

Kobayashi finishes 8th and quits Caterham tomorrow :cool:



#29 Andrew Hope

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:28

Personally I'm hoping for another game of Liuzziball and the first 4 or 5 rows don't make it out of the first chicane, but failing that I will settle for absolutely anything interesting to happen at all, so that I feel some solace that getting up before sunrise on my only day off of the week to watch spoiled kids race cars was the right thing to do.



#30 Brazzers

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:30

This should be Hamilton's race to win. 

 

Hopefully he does this time. 



#31 sportyskells

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:31

i just hope for a safe race and a clean race but i will allow a safety car or two



#32 Andrew Hope

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:32

i just hope for a safe race and a clean race but i will allow a safety car or two

 

That's awfully generous of you. Will you allow topless grid girls and an eternal ban on podium interviews too please?



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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:36

Lots of F1 'fans' here hoping for accidents. Classy people.

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:37

They couldn't have picked a worse track to come to after Spa's incident. Merc 1 and 2 on the grid into turn one at Monza with cold brakes could be very ugly.

 Nico's starts have not been blinding, though. It could well be Bottas in the firing line at turn 1.



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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:38

Hamilton has a brake problem, Rosberg a gearbox problem and both retire.

Massa takes out Bottas at the first corner because he can't stand the Finn driving away from him for another race.

Fred jumps both McLarens at the start and Magnussen spends the rest of the race over-aggressively defending from the Red Bulls, slowing them all down enough for Raikkonen to jump all three with an alternate strategy.

Ferrari comes home to deliver an unexpected 1-2 and the masses of tifosi promptly implode with excitement.

 

THIS. It´s not impossible..

 

The start should be very interesting.


Edited by sportingcp, 07 September 2014 - 10:40.


#36 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:38

Also, why do people believe Hamilton and Rosberg will collide again? They're not amateurs you know.



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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:39

Lots of F1 'fans' here hoping for accidents. Classy people.

I don't wan't anyone getting hurt i just want a chance for my fav driver get a good result and the only chance is with some DNFs



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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:40

Lots of F1 'fans' here hoping for accidents. Classy people.

 

I'm sure they'll settle for a lot of mechanical failures.



#39 akshay380

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:43

Lewis to cruise in lead till midway a safety car negates his advantage. He still wins it after a tough fight with Bottas. Rorberg to stay off podium.

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:51

Lots of F1 'fans' here hoping for accidents. Classy people.

 

As the great Winston Churchill once said: "I can only promise blood, toil, tears and sweat". 



#41 Ev0d3vil

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:06

The spa incident again...



#42 Ducks

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:10

Will last years GP time be beaten?

 

1:18:33.352



#43 skc

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:13

Not if Lewis wins.

 

What if Lewis wins by taking Alonso out?  :smoking:



#44 Ev0d3vil

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:17

Interesting insight, F1 chopper.



#45 dave34m

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:22

The spa incident again...

Yeah, way too much aye, imagine if they have a serious incident. Minds will explode



#46 HeadFirst

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:30

Personally I'm hoping for another game of Liuzziball and the first 4 or 5 rows don't make it out of the first chicane, but failing that I will settle for absolutely anything interesting to happen at all, so that I feel some solace that getting up before sunrise on my only day off of the week to watch spoiled kids race cars was the right thing to do.

 

Please not that!!!! Hopefully the real interest will come from mid-field and intra-team battles, not the first chicane. Massa is a worry though ...... fast starter, something to prove and nothing to lose.



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Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:32

Odds that Maldonado could cause something at T1 from where he's at? :p

#48 HeadFirst

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:33

This is my thinking too, it's going to be a boring race.. We needed rain to spice it up :(

 

I think 1-2 might be decided within a few laps, I'm looking forward to the battle for that last podium spot.


Edited by HeadFirst, 07 September 2014 - 11:41.


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Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:36

What if Lewis wins by taking Alonso out?  :smoking:

If it happened on the last lap ,Lewis would give the podium a miss in favour of a rapidly departing helicopter.

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:38

Also, why do people believe Hamilton and Rosberg will collide again? They're not amateurs you know.

 

If it can happen once, it can happen again. And hopefully will.