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Poll: Have you changed your mind about DRS? (156 member(s) have cast votes)

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  1. I was in favor when they introduced it and I still like it (21 votes [13.46%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.46%

  2. I was against it when they introduced it and I still dont't like it (75 votes [48.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 48.08%

  3. I was in favor, but I like it a bit less now (13 votes [8.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

  4. I was against it, but I like it a bit better now (13 votes [8.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

  5. I was in favor, but now I'm totally against (6 votes [3.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.85%

  6. I was against it, but now I am a fan (2 votes [1.28%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.28%

  7. I had no real opinion, but now I like it (13 votes [8.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

  8. I had no real opinion, but now I don't like it (7 votes [4.49%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.49%

  9. I had no real opinion then and I still don't have any (6 votes [3.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.85%

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#51 OO7

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:20

Drivers get to practice defensive driving more than they ever did prior to DRS.

This 'every press of DRS results in a pass' thing I hear from so many people is a massive exaggeration.

Spot on Sean.  I'm thinking of re-watching the races a noting the types of passes made to highlight this fact.



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#52 johnmhinds

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:23

I 'liked' your post because it's a good post rather than becauuse I agree.

 

DRS is a sticking plaster and I would overall rather they did not have it, but I see two main benefits;

 

1. It does help get get us around the turbulent air problem which won't go away until the FIA introduces a set of technical rules which I write and approve of.  These basically shift balance from aero to mechanical grip, remove wings and have ground effect stuff going on.

2. It's a visible sign of someone doing an aggressive overtake attempt so good for viewers and spectators.  It signals 'look at me, I'm trying reeeeeeeeeally hard'

 

The third benefit, which is that it allows out of place cars to get back into the fight with their peers much easier and faster, is debatable.  it's great when your driver is able to make the most of it, but not if you like drivers to work for their finishing places.  Personally, I prefer them to work and that would include passing backmarkers properly especially since DRS ought to make that easy.

 

Not it isn't, it signals the driver behind has been given a huge advantage.

 

He isn't trying any harder by than the guy he is passing by pressing a button and having all his rear drag removed, he is taking the easy pass.


Edited by johnmhinds, 18 September 2014 - 10:24.


#53 Buttoneer

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:26

I'm a glass-half-full kinda guy.



#54 Disgrace

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:27

Except Bahrain usually had good racing prior to DRS.

And Spa, unless it rained, often produced fairly boring races prior to DRS as well.

As far as who you're supposed to credit, well, I'd say that the average number of great races per year has gone up considerably since DRS was introduced. I don't think there's really much questioning the impact its had.

 

You've simply offered me three generalisations with which I wholly disagree. I will simply say that the consensus is that Bahrain didn't usually provide good racing prior to DRS; remember the fallout after the 2010 race? Only due to the new layout you say? If you like the circuit, that's fine though. Regarding great races - since DRS has been introduced, we've had two dire seasons in 2011 and 2013. There's really no way to verify whether this "increased average number of great races" is fact or fiction, and indeed how much can be attributed to DRS. IMO, they played a significant but not exclusive part in ruining them.

 

I would also say there's no questioning the impact DRS has had, but on wheel-to-wheel combat itself. DRS activation zones when overpowered act almost as if they were the only legal place to pass on the circuit - drivers realise they can reduce risk simply by saving their overtake for that area. It makes watching racing more predictable, in both how and where passing will occur. Overtaking is only an aspect of racing, but it is being manipulated by what is an FIA-controlled spec component. It has nothing to do with driver skill - quite unlike IndyCar's push-to-pass.



#55 GSiebert

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:32

Nope, still crap.



#56 August

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:34

The problem with tracks with fast corners was the df loss when driving behind somebody, which wasn't evened out by slipstreaming on straights. Then again, the problem with tracks with slow corners is that you can't carry speed to the straight and the guy ahead gets to throttle earlier. Slipstreaming doesn't compensate that. There are anymore only few natural overtaking spots. Juncao at Interlagos isn't too fast for following close without df loss but you can carry speed from it.

A solution would be to change aero making it less sensitive at corners yet increasing the slipstreaming effect. But F1 went the easy route of DRS. The only benefit of DRS is that it works also on the slow-corner tracks F1 has let itself with.

And I think I already said this. I prefer IndyCar's push-to-pass. First you try to overtake without it. Then if you can't overtake, you use push-to-pass. And if you've managed it well, you can use it also for defense.

And I'd prefer racing without overtaking aids.

#57 johnmhinds

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:34

I'm a glass-half-full kinda guy.

 

Eh, I could see it that way if the DRS zones were in a high downforce section of the track and then the drivers had to take some risk and use some skill in order to use it to pull off an overtake.

 

But because DRS is used on the main straights it's just used as a no skill easy pass system with zero excitement for the fans or the drivers, and at a lot of tracks the DRS zones have become the only overtaking areas that are used with drivers choosing to ignore any more risky overtakes.



#58 nosecone

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:36

Always hated it.

If F1 needs an overtaking aid, why can't they have an IndyCar-style push-to-pass? Oh yeah, it'd hurt to admit IndyCar did something better.

Because it'd be fair

 

Seriously: Give everybody the same amount of DRS-activations (like 20times per race) to make it fair.

 

With the current system you get punished for being in front. If you do a long first stint it won't help you. You can't keep the other cars behind you - they just drive by



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Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:40

As long as DRS only enables a possibility of a pass, rather than making the actual pass with DRS I'm in full favor of it.

 

I still think tire wear and grip play a bigger part in overtaking, I think some people see a clean DRS overtake and think "oh for gods sake", when actually most of the time was made up by fresher tires and better traction.

 

I'm seeing a lot of the time people being in DRS range, but unless they have the traction it still wont make a pass certainty.



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#60 Disgrace

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:48

I 'liked' your post because it's a good post rather than becauuse I agree.

 

DRS is a sticking plaster and I would overall rather they did not have it, but I see two main benefits;

 

1. It does help get get us around the turbulent air problem which won't go away until the FIA introduces a set of technical rules which I write and approve of.  These basically shift balance from aero to mechanical grip, remove wings and have ground effect stuff going on.

2. It's a visible sign of someone doing an aggressive overtake attempt so good for viewers and spectators.  It signals 'look at me, I'm trying reeeeeeeeeally hard'

 

The third benefit, which is that it allows out of place cars to get back into the fight with their peers much easier and faster, is debatable.  it's great when your driver is able to make the most of it, but not if you like drivers to work for their finishing places.  Personally, I prefer them to work and that would include passing backmarkers properly especially since DRS ought to make that easy.

 

I think when a quick and dirty solution like this presents itself, particularly when F1 is controlled by those seeking to extract maximal short-run profits, it probably lessens the urgency with which rulemakers will work on such rules. The underlying problems remain, and indeed even those of DRS are hidden by the current engine performance differences. Looking at dwindling television viewers, I would say that delaying the onset of the crisis will only increase it's impact once it does arrive.



#61 Buttoneer

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:50

Eh, I could see it that way if the DRS zones were in a high downforce section of the track and then the drivers had to take some risk and use some skill in order to use it to pull off an overtake.

 

But because DRS is used on the main straights it's just used as a no skill easy pass system with zero excitement for the fans or the drivers, and at a lot of tracks the DRS zones have become the only overtaking areas that are used with drivers choosing to ignore any more risky overtakes.

I didn't comment on skill.  Even if you have no live timing you can tell the difference between a car which was more than 1s behind and one which is less - the DRS will be open.  It's a clear sign to everyone watching that there is a driver in attack mode behind and catching.

 

I'm not expecting you to agree.



#62 baddog

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:58

The problem is that, in many circumstances, it simply artificially swaps the places of cars. The driver behind has in at least half the cases no more to do with it than if the car in front had to go through a slow lane. On some circuits, where one car is only a tenth or two quicker over the lap, it is literally harmful to overtake through skill, because being directly behind at the DRS activation point just means the place swaps back. Success is pulling up behind someone and waiting for the present. Kers was never a problem because both drivers can use it. This however is fakery to make people think they are seeing something they are not.

 

This has been slightly less prominent this year, due to the bizarre engine situation, but it will be business as usual eventually.



#63 Imateria

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 11:01

It's a quick fix to problem that they seem to be willing to ignore now, rather than actually address.



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Posted 18 September 2014 - 11:09

I 'liked' your post because it's a good post rather than becauuse I agree.

 

DRS is a sticking plaster and I would overall rather they did not have it, but I see two main benefits;

 

1. It does help get get us around the turbulent air problem which won't go away until the FIA introduces a set of technical rules which I write and approve of.  These basically shift balance from aero to mechanical grip, remove wings and have ground effect stuff going on.

2. It's a visible sign of someone doing an aggressive overtake attempt so good for viewers and spectators.  It signals 'look at me, I'm trying reeeeeeeeeally hard'

 

The third benefit, which is that it allows out of place cars to get back into the fight with their peers much easier and faster, is debatable.  it's great when your driver is able to make the most of it, but not if you like drivers to work for their finishing places.  Personally, I prefer them to work and that would include passing backmarkers properly especially since DRS ought to make that easy.

I think it's the exact opposite. To me it says "I'm waiting for the DRS zone for an easy overtake" 



#65 Ali_G

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 11:34

I view it like this.

The lack of passing is an inherent problem in F1. It is inherent due to multiple reasons (design of cars, design of tracks and sporting regulations dictating the rules of racing).

So, instead of fixing the inherent problems, the FIA went and added another problem. It is in effect, papering over the cracks. The correct way to go about business of course would be to fix the cars, fix the tracks and bring back good racing.

Making the cars less sensitive to running in turbulence isn't that difficult. Just give the cars 2 venture tunnels so that way more down force is produced by the floor than by wings. Give the cars wider tyres again to give more mechanical grip and to give the cars more drag. Tracks could also be altered. Change tracks so that very fast flat out corners lead onto straights.

#66 midgrid

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 11:38

I don't like the idea in principle, but in practice I prefer the racing of the DRS era to that which existed immediately before.  However, my lukewarm support is conditional on the FIA coming up with new aerodynamic regulations which allow the cars to follow each other and pass without an artificial advantage, and I'm worried that this won't happen for a long time.  Remember that refuelling lasted for sixteen seasons, and grooved tyres for eleven?  Unfortunately, I think DRS is here to stay, and GP2's decision to adopt it purely so that the category resembles F1 more closely reflects that.



#67 ardbeg

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 11:38

As I see it, many races in the past became less interesting than they could have because if faster cars stuck in traffic. I think we have seen good races the last couple of years partly because of DRS but also because it seems the TV producers have become better of picking up the action. Merc has been dominating more than Ferrari did on their peak, still I have not been bored because there has been action and over-the-whole race development of the positions.

All in all I feel that although I have been against many of the rule changes, they have actually achieved something. The sprint-reset, sprint-reset, sprint-reset races that we had with refuelling and optimum tires was probably more pure than what we have today, but I found it utterly boring to watch. After the first lap, only mistakes (in pit or on track) or mech failures affected the positions.

I still think that aero rules should be changed and when looking at Indycar, where they race really close to each other, I often think "F1 should be like that, but with more F1 in it". I guess I am simplifying the problem and therefore I am overly critical against the solutions put forward by the experts.



#68 Buttoneer

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 11:41

I view it like this.

The lack of passing is an inherent problem in F1. It is inherent due to multiple reasons (design of cars, design of tracks and sporting regulations dictating the rules of racing).

So, instead of fixing the inherent problems, the FIA went and added another problem. It is in effect, papering over the cracks. The correct way to go about business of course would be to fix the cars, fix the tracks and bring back good racing.

Making the cars less sensitive to running in turbulence isn't that difficult. Just give the cars 2 venture tunnels so that way more down force is produced by the floor than by wings. Give the cars wider tyres again to give more mechanical grip and to give the cars more drag. Tracks could also be altered. Change tracks so that very fast flat out corners lead onto straights.

:up:

 

Are you working on my tech regs too?



#69 discover23

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 11:43

I don't like it. Get rid of it please.

#70 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 14:09

As long as DRS only enables a possibility of a pass, rather than making the actual pass with DRS I'm in full favor of it.

 

I still think tire wear and grip play a bigger part in overtaking, I think some people see a clean DRS overtake and think "oh for gods sake", when actually most of the time was made up by fresher tires and better traction.

 

I'm seeing a lot of the time people being in DRS range, but unless they have the traction it still wont make a pass certainty.

then it's safe to get rid of it



#71 ANF

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 14:50

I still hate it.



#72 TomNokoe

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 15:15

I've grown to like it, but when somebody makes a free pass, it does sort of wash away any real admiration I have for it. At times it is just unworkable, there is an invisible boundary that goes from barely any effect to a straightforward pass. The double bubble of DRS + tow is very very powerful sometimes. It's okay.

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 15:46

Would you say Rosberg's attempted DRS pass of Hamilton at Spa or Button's dice with Perez at Monza, for instance, are typical of things I'll see?

 

Rosberg attempted to pass Hamilton at Spa on lap 2; it was a classic Spa-Francorchamps move.

 

 



#74 BillBald

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 15:48

I think people need to be reminded of why DRS was brought in.

 

For 2010, refuelling was banned. The 2010 Bahrain GP was one of the most pointless races ever, with no overtaking among the top ten runners except on Vettel who was having a car problem.

 

If you are talking about pre-DRS, you can't make comparison with races before 2010 in which refuelling was allowed, because in those days you had cars on different fuel loads which made overtaking easier. Plus you had different strategies depending on the amount of fuel people wanted to qualify with.

 

You could argue that DRS is no longer needed now that you have tyres which don't last the whole race, but unfortunately we have the silly tyre rules which means all the faster runners tend to be on the same tyre, with a similar amount of degradation. If we got rid of those rules and everyone could choose their tyre strategy freely, maybe we could do away with DRS and still have overtaking.



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Posted 18 September 2014 - 16:02

I didn't comment on skill.  Even if you have no live timing you can tell the difference between a car which was more than 1s behind and one which is less - the DRS will be open.  It's a clear sign to everyone watching that there is a driver in attack mode behind and catching.

 

I'm not expecting you to agree.

 

Sure the DRS being open shows the viewer that the driver behind was catching, but at the same time the DRS is removing any kind of excitement that would have happened if those drivers had then spent 3-5+ laps battling for the position, the driver who was behind and was already catching up is given a huge speed advantage and allowed to unceremoniously pass mid way down a straight half a mile away from the camera.

 

The DRS is signalling something to the viewer, but it's just a signal of mediocrity.


Edited by johnmhinds, 18 September 2014 - 16:04.


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Posted 18 September 2014 - 19:03

DRS offers a mix of overtakes, sometimes it is a little too easy, sometimes it is a little too hard and sometimes it is just right.

Take Monza for an example, I don't recall any breeze-by passes with the exception of the flying Bottas and I believe that was largely a function of the Williams' aerodynamic setup and tactical use of the ERS.  We saw Massa breeze by Magnussen and that wasn't even in a DRS zone.

 

Personally, overall I like DRS.  I find it strange that those who oppose DRS also moan when it is not strong enough, I would have thought such a situation would please them.  I remember watching the 2010 Malaysian GP, with Hamilton stuck behind Sutil's Force India that was 2 seconds a lap slower, yet he couldn't get by and Alonso stuck behind Petrov in Abu Dhabi later that same year.  Both were pretty ridiculous situations.  It is said that overtaking is a lost art now, well defending was a lost art pre-DRS for the most part.

 

EDIT:

I'm not sure about my feeling when it was first announced, I can't remember.  I think I may have been in favour, but thought it wouldn't be particularly effective.

 

 

In both cases, the forced rev limit could be viewed as the problem. Alonso was bouncing of the limiter that day. No chance he could ever overtake Petrov with that setup.



#77 tifosi

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 19:42

Reminds me of playing a racing sim in arcade mode.



#78 travbrad

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 19:57

It really depends on the particular circuit and how it's implemented more than anything.  It should allow drivers to get close enough to pass, but it shouldn't let them just fly past halfway down the straight like the other driver is standing still.  I really don't think Montreal needs such long DRS zones for example, if at all.  On the other hand I think Hungary has a pretty nice balance.

 

It has become harder to judge DRS this year though, with the cars having varying amounts of engine power.  A pass with DRS might look too easy when it's a Mercedes passing a Ferrari, but it's hard to say how much of that is the engine and how much is the DRS.



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Posted 18 September 2014 - 20:16

I think people need to be reminded of why DRS was brought in.

 

For 2010, refuelling was banned. The 2010 Bahrain GP was one of the most pointless races ever, with no overtaking among the top ten runners except on Vettel who was having a car problem.

 

First Grand Prix of 2010 was pretty dull (unusual for a Bahrain race, actually) but I remember the rest of the season as being pretty exciting. Turkey, Canada, Hungary, Australia, Korea and Brazil have all stuck with me. And Abu Dhabi of course. Less happily so.

But DRS was the first example of the manic, haphazard and plain comical rulemaking that became the norm in F1 after Max Mosley stepped down. And I'm aware what a strange thing that is to type.


Edited by Risil, 18 September 2014 - 20:18.


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Posted 18 September 2014 - 20:26

Why not just mandate the time that the DRS can stay open (say, 60seconds for the entire race) and then let the drivers spend it as they see fit.


Edited by Hellenic tifosi, 18 September 2014 - 20:40.


#81 RockyRaccoon68

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 20:44

DRS+Durable tyres works, as DRS negates the dirty air effect.

 

Aggressive tyres+No DRS works, as there is a speed difference coming out of the corners which leads to overtaking.

 

DRS+Aggressive DRS does not work, and makes overtaking too easy. We see speed differences out of slow corners which gives the driver behind a chance to attack, but DRS makes this too easy.

 

Bingo!  It's generally not too bad when the chasing car is only marginally faster and opens up passing opportunities without needing to be 2+s faster like a few years back.  The problems start when there is already a large pace differential between the cars and that's something we end up seeing quite often with the aggressive tyres.  When there is a big pace difference the pass simply becomes farcical.

 

The thing I dislike about it is that it devalues track position, limiting strategy choice and ultimately favouring more stops.  The reward for braving it out on old tyres is much smaller than it would once have been.

 

Remember when there used to be some suspense?  Now it's more often a case of "will he catch" rather than "will he pass".  



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Posted 18 September 2014 - 20:59

Would you say Rosberg's attempted DRS pass of Hamilton at Spa or Button's dice with Perez at Monza, for instance, are typical of things I'll see? If so I may grab a deck chair and a case of beer...

I wouldn't, since Rosberg attacked when DRS was not enabled  :drunk:



#83 Jejking

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 21:03

Again, massive exaggeration.

Again, wrong.

 

https://www.flickr.c...ess/7455548358/

 

Remember when Schumacher tried something unconventional, outbraking Kobayashi rallycross style before the hairpin and Kobayashi immediately got back at him with DRS? That's the unlikable stuff.



#84 MikeV1987

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 21:23

i will never enjoy artificial passing. so option 2



#85 Cyanide

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 21:37

As someone already said before: I like it when my favorite driver has DRS and I hate it when the driver behind my favorite has DRS. 

 

It has its ups and downs but overall creates artificial racing. Might as well introduce nitrous oxide in the cars and call Xzibit to pimp the rides. 



#86 ardbeg

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 22:12

Maybe DRS should be disabled when approaching the leading car?



#87 Paincake

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 23:10

It should stay, if you can't defend against drs, you need to learn defend better, or else use drs back.



#88 baddog

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 23:22

Noone can defend against DRS (under anything approaching ideal DRS circumstances). It is specifically not permitted to do so in fact.



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Posted 19 September 2014 - 03:21

I remember the Imola race where Schumacher was behind Button for many laps, I don’t remember the end of it but when the Schumacher Alonso thing happened it was a little like a replay of that Button BAR thing a year or so earlier.



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Posted 19 September 2014 - 03:28

I think I've seen a few races each year with DRS where the car ahead of a DRS car moved to the inside of the track taking away the overtake option at the corner. And once again Rosberg could not get past Vergne lap after lap, Hamilton on the other hand pulled a beautiful move on Vergne at the same spot Grojean did on Massa a year earlier and got a penalty, not so Hamilton, he kept two tires on the track, and had fresher tires.

Defending against DRS is doable, ask Vergne!



#91 CoolBreeze

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 03:36

Still fake for me. Never liked it, never will. 



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Posted 19 September 2014 - 03:53

I remember the Imola race where Schumacher was behind Button for many laps, I don’t remember the end of it but when the Schumacher Alonso thing happened it was a little like a replay of that Button BAR thing a year or so earlier.

 

You probably didn't see the end of it, that's why you don't remember. It was the race where ITV famously went to an ad break during the last few laps.

 

Schumacher finally got past Button's (latterly discovered illegal) BAR, caught up to Alonso, and lap after lap was looking for a way past. Alonso drove just the right side of fair in his defense, and as I recall said himself a couple more laps and he'd have lost the win. Both drivers drove amazingly, and it was the one weekend the Ferrari/ Bridgestone package was properly competitive (other than the US GP, where they were good, but Michelin were also disasterous).

 

The closest I can think of more recently was Schumacher/ Hamilton at Monza. And there was much bemoaning, when a driver in a slower car actually managed to hold position against a faster one lap after lap. DRS has given fans the notion a faster car shouldn't have to work for it, but should be granted the pass.



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Posted 19 September 2014 - 08:23

Maybe DRS should be disabled when approaching the leading car?

No, the no2 should get a red turtle shell. 

 

The Schumacher/Hamilton battle made just more rules to limit defending. It was the best battle I've seen in years and Schumacher could have held out longer if he didn't press a wrong button when getting many radio messages about Whiting losing his marbles. 

 

Whiting himself stated the more DRS the merrier, because it warranted 'safe' passing and less risks involved. So now, driving on the freeway is more dangerous than F1.

 

Tracks like Spa, Canada, Suzuka, Monza should have no DRS zones.



#94 Rinehart

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 08:48

I view it like this.

The lack of passing is an inherent problem in F1. It is inherent due to multiple reasons (design of cars, design of tracks and sporting regulations dictating the rules of racing).

So, instead of fixing the inherent problems, the FIA went and added another problem. It is in effect, papering over the cracks. The correct way to go about business of course would be to fix the cars, fix the tracks and bring back good racing.

Making the cars less sensitive to running in turbulence isn't that difficult. Just give the cars 2 venture tunnels so that way more down force is produced by the floor than by wings. Give the cars wider tyres again to give more mechanical grip and to give the cars more drag. Tracks could also be altered. Change tracks so that very fast flat out corners lead onto straights.

 

Sure they could redesign all the cars and all the tracks at a cost of billions - in order to make it slightly more possible to overtake - that would be the ideal solution.

Or they could implement a moving wing on each car at a cost of a few hundred thousand in the meantime, and that achieves more or less the same thing.

Its not a perfect world so I can't see how DRS can receive such scolding criticism from people who do want the effects of DRS, but not from DRS...



#95 BillBald

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 12:28

Noone can defend against DRS (under anything approaching ideal DRS circumstances). It is specifically not permitted to do so in fact.

 

I really can't be bothered to make a list for you of all the times a car's been unable to pass in spite of having DRS.



#96 Skinnyguy

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 13:12

I like it when the zones are set up well, I dislike it when they got them wrong. That´s it. I find myself liking it far more often than in 2011, so they´ve made some porgress, even if I think they´re too rigid deciding some stuff (always 2 zones, always start late into the straight and always end in the braking zone, etc)



#97 Spillage

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 14:11

I liked it when it was new and I continue to like it now. There are times when it is overpowered and no doubt it has eroded the ability of drivers to defend (although not entirely, see Hulkenberg in Korea last season) but since the ghastly 2010 season the racing's been much better and we've DRS and Pirelli to thank for that.

#98 ardbeg

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Posted 20 September 2014 - 14:19

I'm surprised so few have changed their mind.



#99 Risil

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Posted 20 September 2014 - 15:58

I'm surprised so few have changed their mind.

 

I can't remember what I thought at the time, but I certainly haven't changed my mind.



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#100 superden

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Posted 20 September 2014 - 16:33

I didn't and still don't like it in it's current form. I don't like the idea generally but its just so badly thought out and implemented. If it were open for use once, or for a predetermined length of time, at any point per lap at the drivers discretion that would be something. The trouble is, it's available in such a way that, combined with the ban on any genuine defence of a position, all you are left with half the time is a driver being forced to sit back and watch as he gets mugged through no fault of his own. On other occasions it's completely useless. It's contrived, made for TV nonsense. I understand why some might like it but as it stands, it's just not for me.

Edited by superden, 20 September 2014 - 16:36.