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[Wildlife]

Hello there,

 

I found this forum yesterday!

 

I read some things about the 1970th BSCC and also about the Martin Birrane Mustang notchback.

Some of you had posted pictures, which are not available anymore!

 

Is it possible to get these pictures once again?

 

Some things about the background of my post:

In the beginning of 2014 I finished the built of a Group 2 Mustang. It got all homologated things out of the FIA form #1510. That includes also 8" and 10" wheels. For these big wheels I had to widen the fenders, like Birrane on his car 1970. Now I am fighting for a FIA HTP since about 6 months. Till now I used the 12h Sebring 1968 race as period specification but the FIA doesn´t accept this race because it  was not a FIA international event, as they say. I would need to bring any evidence out of international events in which a Mustang with the widen fenders started.

I am confused....on the one hand the flared fenders are not homologated but on the other hand Ford brought a specification catalogue in 1967 which contains flared fenders for safe tire installation (so actually this is a manufacturer´s specs after Appendix K Art. 3.3.8 a) and b) ) and also the Appendix J of 1969 and also 1971 say that in any case the mudguards/fenders have to cover the wheel.

So can anybody help me with evidence or any other things?

 

Kind Regards,

Bastian

[arttidesco]

Might this help ?

Edited by arttidesco, 25 September 2014 - 09:42.

[Wildlife]

hello.

 

thanks, I have already spent so much time in searching through google, etc. I have also gotten two pictures of the last race of BSCC at Brands Hatch 1970 from touringcarracing.net I thought maybe anyone here has his/her own collection of information....

 

Maybe anybody can tell me if any race of the BSCC in 1970 was an international FIA event?

 

 

Regards,

[hlfuzzball]

Have you viewed 1968 Daytona 24 Hour results ?   I think that was a full FIA Event.

 

Jerry Titus in a 1968 Mustang Group 2 Sedan (Notchback) finished 4th Overall behind 3 factory  Porsches.

 

It definitely had flared-out fenders and quarter panels to cover tires.

[Supersox]

Daytona 1968 is without any doubt an International event  and indeed the Titus/Bucknum Mustang was fourth-indeed a picture on page 713 of Time and Two Seats shows the car.

However the caption below referrring the car reads '' Far from stock , the car was built and entered by Shelby''

Wildlifes' problem is very simple the only Touring Cars in the race were Trans-Am cars and in 1968, contrary to the general view, Trans Am was not Group 2 for the over 2 litre cars.

The various race organisers realised very early on that Group 2 TC from 1966 on was too restrictive to appeal to manufacturers and whilst GB -and Europe- went Gp 5 the US went Trans -Am.

Edited by Supersox, 20 November 2014 - 10:27.